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Ok, so this is going to be an extremely long question/rant since I really never understood how this works in our tiering system and kind of seems like a loophole. (For these examples below assume dimensions have transcendence.)
So first of all there are two types of High 1-B Structures from...
This isn’t a CRT. I don’t plan to change anything or convince anyone of anything. I'm just here to point out the flaws that are present in tiers 2 to 1-A.
Inconsistent requirements
Obviously in order to be low 2-C you have to destroy the universe's time and space. This is because with time...
So I recently finished reading Superman: Beyond because I was curious to see CAS's full array of feats in context and this has left me very confused. I apologize if anything I'm about to say is incorrect on controversial, I'm just trying to understand the tiering system and where a character...
Presuming that the statements are literally true, credible and not hyperbolic and that there are some relevant feats that strongly imply these statements to be true.
Suppose it were stated that all things in existence are "little more than aspects" of a single primordial entity. And all of...
Say there are a group of characters who are shown to be 5-Dimensional. On top of that, they are shown to be so large that the normal universe is merely a point in their perspective that they can hold without any problem. Finally, they view a standard universe as pretty much a movie which they...
specifically how high into tier 0 is it? when i say beyond all of math i mean the series gives an example of mathematical cardinals and theories to show that when it says X being is beyond all of math, it is really beyond all of math
I don't get how Immeasurable speed would work on paper. I know it's requirements and all, but how would an immeasurable fight considering they can dodge attacks struck and that kind of stuff
if there is a verse which contains infinite universes. and there is someone where it says "every dimension will become one with her". what tier can she be?
Not really a big post but I was wondering how it would be treated if both statements are true. For example, if you have r>f transcendence over whatever layer/s of reality but at the same time you don't. Both statements are true. I think if the answer is obvious, there should be a note somewhere...
Assume AP =/= DC isn't valid for the purpose of this thread, unless specifically mentioned by the verse (saint seiya and db do this)
What verses, given their tiering on VSBW, would cease to make sense on a narrative and/or thematic level?
Is there is a way to proof a dimennsion is superior to the other withouth prooving R>F ?
And if something is stated multiples time to transcend 4D, it's 5D ?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/contumelia-range-upgrade.132750/
https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragon-ball-heroes-5d-low-1-c-range-upgrade.135382/
Basically, if you occupy 5 dimensions or affect a construct that is stated to be 5-dimensional, yet the dimensions in question are not stated to be a...
Making a small CRT to address an issue that's been bugging at me for a while. As the title suggests, this involves the upper echelons of the Tiering System, so, if you don't care for that, feel free to ignore (This message being addressed to the legions of staff members that will inevitably be...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cronus_(Saint_Seiya)
The reason for this character's infinite speed caught my attention. attacking by eliminating the distance, it says inf speed, I remember the x-axis of Lille from bleach does the same thing. Is it true that this will require infinite speed?
The reason why multipliers don't work in tier 2 is because the distances between universes is unquantifiable. This is what I don't understand. Low multiversal involves the amount of universes destroyed and doesn't factor the distance between them, so if you can already destroy 1 universe then...
So, this has been bothering me for a while, but only now do I have the mind and the time to talk about it here.
Our 1-A tiers are currently named some variation of "Outerverse level" on the wiki, and they have been for several years now. Originally, we had pages laying down our considerations...
yes, this is a crt bleach related to cosmology, something I've been waiting for since the god tiers first rose, but it never happened, so I decided to do it. Here, it's not Ichigo aizen yhwach. only the bleach universe size, location and tier we accept now is the issue. first of all, living...
A quick answers, but this can be consider like a 1-A Structure, maybe a little more powerful that a normal 1-A Structure?
"Structure A is composed by three existences. Each existence transcend a High 1-B, seeing like a fictional idea."
Hello everyone, welcome to my Ted talk- I mean thread. On this thread, I'll be tackling the notorious and infamous speed rating on this sight, Immeasurable speed:
Firstly, immeasurable speed is defined by having the speed neccessarily in order to move freely in linear time.
But, alot of people...
Currently, scaling many times above low multi won't grant you a higher tier. This is due to the distance between universes being unknown. However, i do believe its possible for a 2-C being to reach 2-B through simple multipliers (e.g a guy who destroys 2 universes then gets 600 times stronger...
This page
We use this description for some tiers:
>High 8-C: Large Building level
>5-C: Moon level
And for some other tiers:
>Low 7-C: Small Town level
I think you already see the problem, its not just about destroying large buildings, its about outputting energy on that level, like if...
Here I have two doubts about the Tier System of the wiki, if someone could answer me and justify/refutate them, i would appreciate it.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System
1-First, the current wiki says that the standard/baseline Outerserval level can be mathematically defined as...
We know TD type 3 transcends duality to the conceptual
Let's just say there is a character who has TD type 3, and we know Space-Time is also a Duality
so will the character be 1-A?
the point here is, what is existence (because it transcends space-time which is like the description of BDE type...
In other wiki that talks about powers, Tiers, etc, a large group of users was talking about a Feat that is the following:
"Character A fight against Character B, that is an avatar of Deity A, who live in another level of existence that belong to the 1-A Tier. Character A have a special ability...
So I'll preface this by saying, I didn't follow the tiering revisions, I don't do high tier, I am just not clued in, in the slightest, in this regard, let's say. I believe that makes me advantaged in realizing what is sufficient information needed to help an outsider from this circle even...
This is to call to attention that our standard formats have been changed slightly to account for Sub-Tier Ratings. (A replacement project still WIP)
The new format replaces the bolded tier ratings, such as '''10-B''', to instead be replaced by a template, {{10-B}}, as that automatically adds...
I have a question is Solaris Outerversal? Got into a discussion with multiple people saying Solaris is Outerversal for Transcending the concept of dimensions but is enough to qualify Solaris for said tier?
I have somewhat of an understanding of Outerversal but doesn't it also require a lot of...
How do we treat characters who are Low 2-C via backscaling to 2-C characters or feats? Characters who aren't 2-C individually but can contribute to 2-C feats with other characters? Characters who are "Unquantifiably" Low 2-C? I know I've seen it allowed for a few profiles, but is it actually the...
So uh, just to clarify, this isnt by me. Some fella was talking about VSBW's dimensional tiering being wrong and what not, so I asked him to compile the reasons and such, and paste it here to see whats right, wrong or not. Just interested. (If its fine)
Ok, here: ////"My main issue with...
I’m not sure if I’m going to word this right (plus something like this could have been asked before): If a character transcends existence in a way that would make them them low 1-C, like they view the 4th dimension as fiction in comparison to them. Would they still be low 1-C even if that...