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tiering system

  1. Wikisource

    Tiering question

    There's something I've wondered about for quite a while. We have two 4D universes (L2C according to wiki standards) within one realm/dimension. So between them there will be a 5th axis. This will make feats at levels 2C to 2A into L1C. So how should we make them truly L1C? I read the...
  2. EL_xWatcher1234x

    What tier is this cosmology ?

    A multiverse contain nine different universes with infinite possibilities (nine 2-A structures), separated from each other by a gap called "interval of worlds" but they are still govern by the same system, Concepts type 1 and laws of the universe (physics). In each branch there is a finite or...
  3. Iamunanimousinthat

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Since this was made a staff discussion, and most users can't comment on it, I thought it would be good, for the rest of us, to be able to speak their thoughts on it. It seems like something like this could potentially, change the tiering system and affect majority of the profiles on this site...
  4. Ultima_Reality

    On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System

    Or, "Why did I make this system? Am I stupid?" This thread has certainly been a long time coming. And though its placement in the general discussion board makes this clear already, it is probably best that I say it explicitly: I don't actually have any interest in bringing any changes to the...
  5. Rakih_Elyan

    Dealing with dimension, once and for all.

    This is a CRT to revise which tier we will grant to someone who transcend the abstraction of dimension, or the concept of dimensionality. For me personally, I think limited to the geometrical and physical dimensions that exist in the verse will suffice for their tier. With the CRT of SMT...

  6. What Kind of Structure is this? and what Tier is it?

    The question is this: -In the Verse, the first time this structure is mentioned, it was already known that in addition to Our Universe, Heaven and Hell existed. We are told that between Our Universe and Heaven as well as between Our Universe and Hell there is a "Dimensional Wall", said...
  7. Uuber1

    Why is this AP?

    Why does creating a universe or merging multiple universes go to AP? I'm just curious because on other sites these are often shaky AP feats.

  8. What Tier would this be?

    What Tier is a character that can affect a structure with the following characteristics: -exists beyond reality. -time and space are irrelevant or do not exist directly in it. -There are no concepts such as distance and direction in it.
  9. Reiner04

    Bigger than a Single 2-A Structure being a Low 1-C Standard - Clarification

    Ah well, as obvious as it is, the "Bigger than 2-A" standard has been a blurry thing for more than a year. I don't really see any proper staff consensus on it. At many places some knowledgeable staff and members have said it's Low 1-C and that bigger than 2-A while still being 2-A is impossible...
  10. LordGriffin1000

    Would this qualify as 2-A?

    If there is an infinite sized space-time continuum that contains an infinite number of dimensions, and several other universes (space-time continuum) inside it, would that make infinite space-time continuum a 2-A sized structure or no?
  11. Seventy96

    What tier is closing black hole in the size of jupiter?

    Black hole is the size of a jupiter. Charatcer close black hole in 1 second: 1. Physically with hands 2. With telekineses
  12. ExSENNA

    Question about 1 Tier and 1 Concept

    Q1: About High 1-B and Low 1-A, both are dimensioned surr? Where would you be if you are inaccessible/qualitatively superior to an entire High 1-B structure, higher into High 1-B, Low 1-A, or 1-A? Q2: Do Type 1 Concepts need to be unbound by the reality they govern completely, or do they only...
  13. Fixxed

    More dimensional axis and bigger size in tier 1

    I have some problem with requirement for tier 1. It is clear that tier 1 is based on size So the requirement is clear. It must be higher level of infinite or more simple is infinity greater size than lower infinity, that make the different of lower D and higher D is uncountable infinity...
  14. Nexus_still_slams

    Question about Higher Dimensional Existence and Attack Potency

    Hello, I'm wondering why characters from higher dimensions are considered "Unknow" when it's explicitly stated in the F.A.Q. that if a character transcends space-time (i.e. is from a higher dimension) then he'll be assigned the ap of that dimension (e.g. Low complex multiverse if he transcends a...
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    • #attackpotecy #hde attack potency faq hde higher dimensional existence tiering tiering system tiering system faq
    • Replies: 5
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  15. FinePoint

    High 1-A Description Overhaul: The Inaccessible Cardinal Debacle

    Tl;dr: The current description has too much distracting and confusing information, and needs to be presented in a way that's clearer and easier to digest. Draft proposal's at the bottom of the post. It seems like most people agree with there being some sort of problem with the current...
  16. Furudo_Erika

    What tier is this

    A realm (A) is said to encompass another smaller realm (B). B is stated to have an infinite number of infinitely-sized layers. A encompasses all of them, and cannot be accessed by going though all infinite layers; it is beyond the entire scope of B entirely and B exists as a small fragment...
  17. DontTalkDT

    Tier for Destroying All Finite Dimensional Spaces at Once

    This thread is just a small step in the debate for our 1-A standards. It's a rather specific case, but IMO could hold relevance to which tier being superior to all finite dimensions is, which in turn is relevant for "above all dimensions"-type statements. The topic is, as the title says, which...
  18. Deagonx

    Tier 2 Revision: Merging 3D Spaces and Destroying Empty Space

    Rehashing an earlier thread that got side-tracked by a misunderstanding. There are two proposals, both seem relatively uncontroversial to an extent. Proposal 1: The merging of two 3-D spaces that are universal in size is not Tier 2 unless those spaces are confirmed to be spacetime continuums...
  19. PrinceofPein

    Another Addition/Revision to/for Tier 2

    While there is a general idea on how we treat the merging of universes/timelines and empty spaces. There is no written rule on it. This thread aims to change that since it does not hurt to have a solid rule on how we treat this cases. (And as usual, I do not mind a clean up of the language to...
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    • content revision thread low 2-c staff thread tier 2 tiering system timelines universe
    • Replies: 77
    • Forum: Staff Discussion
  20. Rxtsuki

    Transcending Dimensions/Dimensionality

    So as I've been studying the tiering system and other articles related to it like BDE, it's confusing to me at least that the tiering system is seemingly "bound" by dimensionality in a sense that up to boundless it always refers to dimensional structures, so if a character is transcendent to an...
  21. Fixxed

    Type 4 multiverse and outerverse level

    So i hear if that verse use ultimate esemble or type 4 max tegmark multiverse, that verse by default will get outerverse level Type 4 is multiverse that use mathematical structure or set, that all structure that exist mathematically can exist physically. That mean in real life we can use all...
    • Fixxed
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    • multiverse outerverse set theory tiering system
    • Replies: 34
    • Forum: Staff Discussion
  22. JohnCenaNation

    Upgrade Moon Cell and Reverse Side of the World to Tier 1-A: Outerverse level

    Reverse side of the world scaling vol. 1 Reverse side of the world is the deepest layer which means it acts like one which would mean it has properties of one at the very least which are: Nasuverse textures of reality The realm where humans reside is just a layer of reality within earth...
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    • content revision content revision thread moon cell nasuverse reverse side of the world tiering system
    • Replies: 22
    • Forum: Content Revision
  23. Nexus_still_slams

    Question about FAQ and Tiering System

    first of all, sorry if my english isn't very good, I used a translator to write what follows. I have a question about the FAQ specifically on the question "What tier is transcending space and time ?" It is said that if a character qualitatively transcends a 4-dimensional space continuum then he...
  24. JohnCenaNation

    Upgrade Thanos to Tier 2-A: Multiverse level+

    God Quarry Thanos and Thor-Force Thor actually met in a one-on-one confrontation and actually fought against each other in this Thor (2020) Vol 6 #34 for a brief while. How do I know this is Thor-Force Thor and not just Worthy Thor? This is the same volume where Thor faced off against Black...
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    • alien content revision content revision thread god marvel entertainment thanos thor odinson tiering system
    • Replies: 15
    • Forum: Content Revision
  25. PrinceNine

    Low 2-C Spatial Dimensions

    Maybe it's something we all know unanimously, but I'm a little confused about it. Afaik, destroying regular space-time (which is 3 spatial + 1 time) it's a requirement for Low 2-C. So, how about destroying 4 spatial dimensions but have nothing to do with temporal dimension? It's still Low 2-C...
  26. Flashlight237

    Tiering an Infinite Hotel?

    So, a common paradox is the one involving a hotel with infinite rooms, which is used to explain how impossible it is to really perceive infinity. These two videos explain it best: Under our current tiering system, what tier would we need to truly fill an infinite hotel?
  27. RanaProGamer

    Possible Minor Proposal For All 1-C Profiles

    Hey, ya'll, been a while since my last CRT. Because recently I have been more into making some exciting matchups with recent upgrades and downgrades. But there is something that noticed when it came to Tier 1-C profiles (including Low 1-C and High 1-C), which isn't the justification, but more so...
  28. LuisGeno

    Ask about 1-A+.

    What would the equivalent of 1-A+ be denoted in set theory? I'm only aware of the notion of "infinite alefs" which, I also know is wrong, I've searched for information on. However; I'm still confused and don't understand much from there on, as far as set theory is concerned. If you can give me...
  29. LuisGeno

    Quick question about the "layers".

    I have a question about "layers" at 1-A, high 1-A, or 0 levels. For "layers" to count, does there have to be qualitative superiority between them? As: 1-A<layer 1 above baseline 1-A<layer 2<layer 3 etc... In a qualitative way, or is it not necessary?

  30. AP from merging two dimensions

    Is merging two (likely planet-sized) dimensions applicable as a feat? And if so, what tier is it? Is it just 5-B?
  31. Deagonx

    Removal of "Negative Theology" Scaling

    This is a continuation of this thread which sought to upgrade Negative Theology scaling from 1-A to High 1-A. It's a fairly niche subject so we haven't really had a staff-wide quorum on how to approach it, but several staff members indicated in the thread that they weren't comfortable with...
  32. JohnCenaNation

    Why is Ultimate Way Big not Solar System level?

    Even though the WoG mentioned that Ultimate Way Big can survive Element X which can destroy the Solar System level?
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    • alien ben 10 element x evolved to'kustar mineral questions and answers questions and answers thread tiering system ultimate way big
    • Replies: 16
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  33. JohnCenaNation

    Update Goku (DBZ Manga)'s base form to Tier 4-B: Solar System level

    Oh boy, I can not believe that I am actually going to be doing this Dragon Ball content revision thread, but hey since its long overdue might as well just do it. Dear ladies and gentlemen, it's me JohnCenaNation and it always bothers me why base Goku from DBZ manga is not Solar System level...
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    • alien content revision content revision thread dragon ball dragon ball z kakarot present son goku sr. saiyan tiering system
    • Replies: 19
    • Forum: Content Revision
  34. LuisGeno

    Question about Low 1-A and 1-A/1-A+

    I have a question about the Low 1-A and 1-A/1-A+ levels. If aleph-1 is Low 1-A, and 1-A is aleph-2, and 1-A+ are "infinite alephs" (I know the term "infinite alephs" is not quite correct, sorry). So the jump from Low 1-A to 1-A is low, right? Basically, if we have a place/realm Under 1-A, and...
  35. LuisGeno

    Help on the tiering system

    Hello. I hope I don't bother too much; Could someone send me all kinds of videos and pages of information on set theory, infinite cardinals and all this stuff that is used for leveling please. In advance, sorry for the request.
  36. Maverick_Zero_X

    Establishing rules for Varies ratings

    I noticed that “Varies” ratings don’t have specific standards for them listed in any of our Wiki Rules (or none that I could find), and Variable Tiers don’t even have so much as a passing mention on the Tiering System page. The lack of defined standards has caused Variable Tiers to be...
  37. Furudo_Erika

    1-A without infinite dimensions

    So, how exactly do you reach 1-A without having infinite dimensions? It cannot be "being beyond dimensions", as that is just a dimension higher by default, nor can it be predating dimensions themselves as that was rejected. I heard that one way is having a nature superior to dimensions...
  38. Rxtsuki

    Question about cardinals

    On the FAQ page, here, it says, "countably infinite dimensions High 1-B." and "P(ℵ0) number of spatial dimensions/layers of reality is Low 1-A." The question I have is, do these amount of dimensions have to be layered hierarchical/on each other, or can these dimensions be "next to each other"...
  39. LuisGeno

    Low 2-C Quick Basic Question

    Good day. Sorry if I keep pestering you with "basic" questions about the level system, but I have to ask; If there is a whole space-time continuum (of infinite size), is it necessary to demonstrate the qualitative superiority of the temporal dimension over the 3 spatial dimensions to qualify as...
  40. the_doctor

    Must change some explanation for high tier

    I'm annoyed with many people who say kratos is outerversal or even doom is outerversal, Because they managed to destroy a place that beyond spacetime, meh that so stupid thing. They statement make me feel Desire for punch their face. There should be a change for 1A explanation. Y'all must let...
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