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tiering system

  1. Thraetaona

    Question about Higher-D, "Smurf" Durability

    Would a higher-d "Smurf" durability be able to block hax as well? For example if a 9-B character has 1-A or higher durability would they also block hax since beings who are => 1-A usually for lack of a better wording "beyond physicial" and their AP comes from hax?
  2. Cat275

    A very simple upgrade for mahlo cardinals.

    Making this thread for fun :3 though I have heard that there was a simillar crt a while ago, to which I don't know why it got rejected but I'll try my best to upgrade mahlo and make a more accurate mathematical standard for tier 0, using this thread. (Well the more accurate part is just my...
    • Cat275
    • Thread
    • degree of inaccessibles hyper-inaccessible cardinals inaccessible cadinals mahlo cardinals set theory tier 0 tiering system
    • Replies: 127
    • Forum: Content Revision
  3. ActuallySpaceMan42

    Serious High 1-B Question/Rant

    Ok, so this is going to be an extremely long question/rant since I really never understood how this works in our tiering system and kind of seems like a loophole. (For these examples below assume dimensions have transcendence.) So first of all there are two types of High 1-B Structures from...
  4. Zamasu_Chan

    Everything beyond tier 3 is a cluster ****

    This isn’t a CRT. I don’t plan to change anything or convince anyone of anything. I'm just here to point out the flaws that are present in tiers 2 to 1-A. Inconsistent requirements Obviously in order to be low 2-C you have to destroy the universe's time and space. This is because with time...

  5. How does Cosmic Armor Superman qualify for his tier?

    So I recently finished reading Superman: Beyond because I was curious to see CAS's full array of feats in context and this has left me very confused. I apologize if anything I'm about to say is incorrect on controversial, I'm just trying to understand the tiering system and where a character...

  6. What tier if any would these statements grant?

    Presuming that the statements are literally true, credible and not hyperbolic and that there are some relevant feats that strongly imply these statements to be true. Suppose it were stated that all things in existence are "little more than aspects" of a single primordial entity. And all of...
  7. I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die

    What tier would these characters be???

    Say there are a group of characters who are shown to be 5-Dimensional. On top of that, they are shown to be so large that the normal universe is merely a point in their perspective that they can hold without any problem. Finally, they view a standard universe as pretty much a movie which they...
  8. Excellence616

    Multiverse And Low Complex Multiverse

    Will defeating two 2-A level character guarantee you to Low 1-C?
  9. XXKINGXX69

    Transcending the concept of dimensions

    Some people disagree with it being 1-A so we need a standard that you should discuss

  10. what tier is being beyond all of math

    specifically how high into tier 0 is it? when i say beyond all of math i mean the series gives an example of mathematical cardinals and theories to show that when it says X being is beyond all of math, it is really beyond all of math

  11. Biggest Smurfs on the wiki?

    title. what are the biggest smurfs on the wiki (i.e: a tier 9 character with tier 1 hax)
  12. I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die

    How would immeasurable speed work???

    I don't get how Immeasurable speed would work on paper. I know it's requirements and all, but how would an immeasurable fight considering they can dodge attacks struck and that kind of stuff
  13. AshMcXuelan23

    What tier is this? 2A? L1C? Or get nothing?

    if there is a verse which contains infinite universes. and there is someone where it says "every dimension will become one with her". what tier can she be?
  14. Excellence616

    Low 1-C feat

    Will destroying the 6th dimension guarantee you to be Low 1-C?
  15. Muchacho_mrm

    How Should Liminality Be Tiered?

    Not really a big post but I was wondering how it would be treated if both statements are true. For example, if you have r>f transcendence over whatever layer/s of reality but at the same time you don't. Both statements are true. I think if the answer is obvious, there should be a note somewhere...
  16. StorytellingDemonKing

    Question about speed regarding Outerverse level and higher

    Can you be bound by time or have supersonic speed as an outerversal character since it's based on cardinality?

  17. Settings that don't work with their power levels

    Assume AP =/= DC isn't valid for the purpose of this thread, unless specifically mentioned by the verse (saint seiya and db do this) What verses, given their tiering on VSBW, would cease to make sense on a narrative and/or thematic level?
  18. Shine

    About transcending dimensions

    Is there is a way to proof a dimennsion is superior to the other withouth prooving R>F ? And if something is stated multiples time to transcend 4D, it's 5D ?
  19. Maverick_Zero_X

    Tier 1 AP & Range Separation?

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/contumelia-range-upgrade.132750/ https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragon-ball-heroes-5d-low-1-c-range-upgrade.135382/ Basically, if you occupy 5 dimensions or affect a construct that is stated to be 5-dimensional, yet the dimensions in question are not stated to be a...
  20. Shine

    Erase it

    Erase it
  21. Ultima_Reality

    Some concerns regarding current Tiering System standards (1-A and up)

    Making a small CRT to address an issue that's been bugging at me for a while. As the title suggests, this involves the upper echelons of the Tiering System, so, if you don't care for that, feel free to ignore (This message being addressed to the legions of staff members that will inevitably be...
  22. AKUTO123

    Inf Speed

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cronus_(Saint_Seiya) The reason for this character's infinite speed caught my attention. attacking by eliminating the distance, it says inf speed, I remember the x-axis of Lille from bleach does the same thing. Is it true that this will require infinite speed?
  23. FluffyCreatureZ

    Questions regarding tier 2

    The reason why multipliers don't work in tier 2 is because the distances between universes is unquantifiable. This is what I don't understand. Low multiversal involves the amount of universes destroyed and doesn't factor the distance between them, so if you can already destroy 1 universe then...
  24. KingPin0422

    Regarding the name "Outerverse level"

    So, this has been bothering me for a while, but only now do I have the mind and the time to talk about it here. Our 1-A tiers are currently named some variation of "Outerverse level" on the wiki, and they have been for several years now. Originally, we had pages laying down our considerations...
  25. AKUTO123

    I should have done this a long time ago.

    yes, this is a crt bleach related to cosmology, something I've been waiting for since the god tiers first rose, but it never happened, so I decided to do it. Here, it's not Ichigo aizen yhwach. only the bleach universe size, location and tier we accept now is the issue. first of all, living...
  26. JmikaelP

    This is a 1-A Structure?

    A quick answers, but this can be consider like a 1-A Structure, maybe a little more powerful that a normal 1-A Structure? "Structure A is composed by three existences. Each existence transcend a High 1-B, seeing like a fictional idea."
  27. Azathoth

    About tier0

    If Entity A look High1-A character just a fiction Entity A=tier 0
  28. Orange

    Immeasurable standards.....but not really.

    Hello everyone, welcome to my Ted talk- I mean thread. On this thread, I'll be tackling the notorious and infamous speed rating on this sight, Immeasurable speed: Firstly, immeasurable speed is defined by having the speed neccessarily in order to move freely in linear time. But, alot of people...
  29. XXKINGXX69

    Low multiversal multiplier revision

    Currently, scaling many times above low multi won't grant you a higher tier. This is due to the distance between universes being unknown. However, i do believe its possible for a 2-C being to reach 2-B through simple multipliers (e.g a guy who destroys 2 universes then gets 600 times stronger...
  30. XXKINGXX69

    Major issue with our tiering system page

    This page We use this description for some tiers: >High 8-C: Large Building level >5-C: Moon level And for some other tiers: >Low 7-C: Small Town level I think you already see the problem, its not just about destroying large buildings, its about outputting energy on that level, like if...
  31. Shadowbeast

    Some questions regarding the Tiering System

    Here I have two doubts about the Tier System of the wiki, if someone could answer me and justify/refutate them, i would appreciate it. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System 1-First, the current wiki says that the standard/baseline Outerserval level can be mathematically defined as...
  32. Mr._Undetected

    Transduality and Tiering

    We know TD type 3 transcends duality to the conceptual Let's just say there is a character who has TD type 3, and we know Space-Time is also a Duality so will the character be 1-A? the point here is, what is existence (because it transcends space-time which is like the description of BDE type...
  33. JmikaelP

    What Tier it will be this feat?

    In other wiki that talks about powers, Tiers, etc, a large group of users was talking about a Feat that is the following: "Character A fight against Character B, that is an avatar of Deity A, who live in another level of existence that belong to the 1-A Tier. Character A have a special ability...
  34. The_Impress

    Insufficient Explanations on the Vs. Battles Tiering Pages (STAFF ONLY)

    So I'll preface this by saying, I didn't follow the tiering revisions, I don't do high tier, I am just not clued in, in the slightest, in this regard, let's say. I believe that makes me advantaged in realizing what is sufficient information needed to help an outsider from this circle even...
  35. The_Impress

    Important: A change in our wiki tiering format

    This is to call to attention that our standard formats have been changed slightly to account for Sub-Tier Ratings. (A replacement project still WIP) The new format replaces the bolded tier ratings, such as '''10-B''', to instead be replaced by a template, {{10-B}}, as that automatically adds...
  36. PrissyPanther

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  37. Katsu_Hikaru

    Is Solaris Outerversal

    I have a question is Solaris Outerversal? Got into a discussion with multiple people saying Solaris is Outerversal for Transcending the concept of dimensions but is enough to qualify Solaris for said tier? I have somewhat of an understanding of Outerversal but doesn't it also require a lot of...
    • Katsu_Hikaru
    • Thread
    • outerversal solaris sonic the hedgehog (game continuity) sonic the hedgehog (game sonic universe) tier 1 tiering system
    • Replies: 31
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  38. Sir_Marvulous

    What is the rarest + version of a tier?

    Title
  39. Lightbuster30

    How do we treat backscaling to 2-C?

    How do we treat characters who are Low 2-C via backscaling to 2-C characters or feats? Characters who aren't 2-C individually but can contribute to 2-C feats with other characters? Characters who are "Unquantifiably" Low 2-C? I know I've seen it allowed for a few profiles, but is it actually the...
  40. TheGunsFinalWrath

    "About dimensional tiering"

    So uh, just to clarify, this isnt by me. Some fella was talking about VSBW's dimensional tiering being wrong and what not, so I asked him to compile the reasons and such, and paste it here to see whats right, wrong or not. Just interested. (If its fine) Ok, here: ////"My main issue with...
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