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tiering system

  1. JohnCenaNation

    Update Goku (DBZ Manga)'s base form to Tier 4-B: Solar System level

    Oh boy, I can not believe that I am actually going to be doing this Dragon Ball content revision thread, but hey since its long overdue might as well just do it. Dear ladies and gentlemen, it's me JohnCenaNation and it always bothers me why base Goku from DBZ manga is not Solar System level...
  2. LuisGeno

    Question about Low 1-A and 1-A/1-A+

    I have a question about the Low 1-A and 1-A/1-A+ levels. If aleph-1 is Low 1-A, and 1-A is aleph-2, and 1-A+ are "infinite alephs" (I know the term "infinite alephs" is not quite correct, sorry). So the jump from Low 1-A to 1-A is low, right? Basically, if we have a place/realm Under 1-A, and...
  3. LuisGeno

    Help on the tiering system

    Hello. I hope I don't bother too much; Could someone send me all kinds of videos and pages of information on set theory, infinite cardinals and all this stuff that is used for leveling please. In advance, sorry for the request.
  4. Maverick_Zero_X

    Establishing rules for Varies ratings

    I noticed that “Varies” ratings don’t have specific standards for them listed in any of our Wiki Rules (or none that I could find), and Variable Tiers don’t even have so much as a passing mention on the Tiering System page. The lack of defined standards has caused Variable Tiers to be...
  5. Furudo_Erika

    1-A without infinite dimensions

    So, how exactly do you reach 1-A without having infinite dimensions? It cannot be "being beyond dimensions", as that is just a dimension higher by default, nor can it be predating dimensions themselves as that was rejected. I heard that one way is having a nature superior to dimensions...
  6. Rxtsuki

    Question about cardinals

    On the FAQ page, here, it says, "countably infinite dimensions High 1-B." and "P(ℵ0) number of spatial dimensions/layers of reality is Low 1-A." The question I have is, do these amount of dimensions have to be layered hierarchical/on each other, or can these dimensions be "next to each other"...
  7. LuisGeno

    Low 2-C Quick Basic Question

    Good day. Sorry if I keep pestering you with "basic" questions about the level system, but I have to ask; If there is a whole space-time continuum (of infinite size), is it necessary to demonstrate the qualitative superiority of the temporal dimension over the 3 spatial dimensions to qualify as...
  8. the_doctor

    Must change some explanation for high tier

    I'm annoyed with many people who say kratos is outerversal or even doom is outerversal, Because they managed to destroy a place that beyond spacetime, meh that so stupid thing. They statement make me feel Desire for punch their face. There should be a change for 1A explanation. Y'all must let...
  9. Likelytierzero

    R>F revision

    Firstly, we use r>f to qualify a layer higher in the dimensional layer, the same as the mathematical dimension. But I see that the gap between r>f and dimension is different. For example, in real life, a character in a comic page is made of ink and written down on paper. All the materials used...
  10. Bobsican

    Reality Equalization: A compromise of arbitrarity

    Has anyone noticed that tier 0 has nearly as many character as tier 11? No? Well, make a wild guess how. As some may be aware, Reality Equalization has been a tiering semantic on the site for years, but there's some issues I have with the reasons for it existing as it currently is, I'll start...
  11. LuisGeno

    Ask about 1-A.

    My understanding is that Low 1-A "significantly" transcends High 1-B, and 1-A transcends infinitely many layers of Low 1-A, in the same way that Low 1-A does High 1-B. It is not like this? I'm new here, and I'm interested in learning the site's level system well.
  12. JohnCenaNation

    Update The Mask to Tier 5-C: Moon level

    I am not sure which The Mask comic book series is this from and it better not be a crossover, but apparently The Mask became bigger than the size of the moon and was snacking on the moon.
  13. Rakih_Elyan

    Low 1-A Wiki Wide Tiering Revision, Beyond Dimensions.

    So yeah, I just read the entire tiering system FAQ and the tier page itself and... This section of the FAQ hasn't been revised yet since the creation of the new FAQ page by Ultima. (12 February 2021) And the tiering page has just added a new sub-tier for tier 1-A (Again by Ultima). (23 March...
  14. Flashlight237

    What Tier or Level of Dimensionality is This?

    So one of my pals made this about his own multiverse. I'm mainly asking here because I've no place else to go to with this multiversal dimensionality stuff. So, here's what was written: "The Infiniverse is vast. It is made of many realities and possibilities, of what-ifs and yet-to-bes. And...
  15. sunshine

    Who is the most Overpowered and strongest character that you know of in fiction? (Outside of this forum ofc, VSBW, doesn't have to be here)

    Just thought I'd ask this. I don't rly know anyone that could ACTUALLY solo anyone in fiction 💀 So that's Y I'm asking y'all. Who do y'all think is the strongest character in fiction and why? Please keep this discussion civil.
  16. Flashlight237

    Most Unintelligent Characters for Every Tier

    So yeah, we have a weakest characters for each tier thread (Go check it out!: https://vsbattles.com/threads/top-5-weakest-characters-for-every-tier-again.148649/ ), so why not a list for the DUMBEST characters for each tier? This one's gonna be interesting. So, let's get this out of the way...
  17. JohnCenaNation

    Update Goku (DBS Manga)'s base form to Tier 3-A: Universe level

    This content revision thread has been since long overdue so might as well just do so. The only reason why Goku's base form in DBS Manga is Solar System level and not Universe level is regarding to the huge stigma of him not absorbing Super Saiyan God power into his base form achieving Saiyan...
  18. RALFdoang

    Bring Back Old 2A Above Baseline Standard

    Currently, we use the CH (Continuum Hypothesis) as our Invisible default standard to determine the boundary between 2A and Low 1-C. For a little explanation, CH is an hypothesis which stating that there is no set between the set of Natural number and the set of Real number (no set between...
  19. TheGatememer

    Higher into 5D, or 6D/Higher?

    Say that there is a 5D (Low 1-C) structure. That structure exists within a larger space, and there are an infinite number of said spaces. What tier would this be?
  20. Diamentus

    Are quantum mechanics infinite dimensional (H1B)

    Are quantum dimensions infinite dimensional? I recall hearing that quantum mechanics are infiniteD, but I don't know if it's true, since it's really a theory. I see it commonly within debates, and I am confused. Anyone got answers?
  21. Can 4-d and 5-d characters not be multi or complex multi

    As in, can the character not have enough power to destroy an extra dimensional universe but can destroy a extra-dimensional object that is less than a universe.
  22. Low Multi Requirements Spacetime continuum requirements ?

    Lets say we have a 4-d character who can destroy an object in the past present and future. Does this mean that the character is low multi? Or do they have to be able to destroy an universe in the past, present, and future.
  23. AKUTO123

    gap between timelines 5D

    If 5D accepts the gap between the timelines and destroys all the space between the timelines to become a wiki and 2C, how is this a 4D achievement? I am confused
  24. BluudyManikin777

    Earth’s Core

    How much energy does it take to split it?
  25. AKUTO123

    soul manipulation and layers of resistance?

    hello, i'm arguing with someone and he says ;now vsb accepts this logic . A user's spiritual manipulation is held equally compared to one's attack power, for example let's consider a 2-C character, let's say this character has 4 Universe strength, this person can affect the soul of a person...
  26. Psychomaster35

    Supporting Feats Through Hax For Tiering Justifications

    Say a character has some feat done through hax and not their physical power, but then there happens to be another feat on that level done through physical power. Would it be possible that the feat done through hax can be used as a supporting feat for a specific tier while also having the...
  27. Maruishimaryishi

    𝗝𝗼𝗸𝗲𝗿 𝗧𝗶𝗲𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘀𝘁

    It's been many years since I came back to this wiki, So I decided to make another tier list after my "Unique Eyes on Every Tier" and "Unique Hairs on Every Tier" threads. --Conditions-- ・Should be a character with broken hax(es,) or being able to face a higher-tier character, or struggle with a...
  28. Aachintya31

    A Contradictory Rule for Tier High 3-A to Low 2-C Jumps

    This thread was made in regards to the recently concluded (almost 1.5 months) Tier 2 Requirements and Examples Revision thread. The follow up or part 2 of it covers an entirely different issue which is not my concern. I didn't raise my concerns there because it would clog the thread and i could...
  29. The_Smashor

    Low 2-C, 2-C and 2-B potential sitewide revision

    Now, currently, multipliers cannot cause a Low 2-C character to become 2-C or 2-B, as described on our tiering system page. The reasoning behind this is because the distance between universes is unknown. However, distance should be an irrelevant factor, as all that matters is the number of...
  30. Flashlight237

    Most Useless Characters for Each Tier

    So... Why not? Why not make a thread to see how many characters on this wiki here are ******* USELESS? By that, I mean characters that are known for being as useless as all hell: Magikarp, the Toiletnator, Aqua from Konosuba, all that. I have a few in mind that already fit the category, but...
  31. EnnardTrap1987

    What tier would this be?

    Now, according to the references for common feats page, destroying a table is Wall level, but does this include tables of any and all material or is this for a specific one? And if there is a power difference, what feat tier is for what table? Just curious.
  32. BluudyManikin777

    Mountain level Attack?

    I know destroying a mountain wouldn't be tiered at 7-A, but what if an attack is stated to be capable of instead obliterating mountains; could that be tiered as Mountain level?
  33. BluudyManikin777

    Probability Manipulation Potency

    Is the potency of probability manipulation determined via the user's tier?
  34. ProfessorKukui4Life

    Speed Question Regarding Higher Dimensions & the gap between Universes

    So on the speed page, we have this note written on it for cases when characters travel to either higher dimensions or across universes Crossing between Universes and Higher Dimensions Speed isn't defined by any number of spatial dimensions but simply distance over time. Meaning that it is...
  35. ThePirateKing777

    Tiering question on Multi 3-D Universe Busting.

    What would be the tier of a character that can destroy 2 or more 3-D universes or dimensions of comparable size which does not involve the destruction and/or creation of space-time?
  36. TRAE_is_arceus

    About “boundless layers”

    What is with it? I keep seeing people talking about it randomly online, and since VSBW came up with the tiering system to begin with, I figured I should come here and see if this is actually an approved thing. Do boundless layers actually apply to the tiering system or do you think they don’t...
  37. PrinceofPein

    Tier 2 requirements and examples - Part 2

    This is the continuation of this thread, the thread has been going on for more than a year, and we decided to separate it and tackle the tier 2 in another thread after the tier 3 is done. This thread is just to clarify what qualifies for tier 2 and what does not qualify, as many profiles which...
  38. Sisyphusx

    Creating a 4D structure

    What ability does a character have if he/she can create a 4D structure or hyperspace (of the size of a wall/planet etc. but not 3A or H-3A) Does this give Tier level according to the level of creation feat (like creating a 4D structure but planetary size, would that be uni+ or planetary + hdm)...
  39. Angelzewolf

    What tier is this cosmology?

    There's this realm which houses multiple Multiverses. A = Infinite amount of Universes, All are Infinite in size, all have their own space-time continuum (and some with their own cause & effect). B = Same as A, it's A's reflection, but both are entirely disconnected. C = As large as both A &...
  40. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    What tier is this cosmology?

    So this cosmology is infinitely layered, and difference between layers is greater then R/F to the point the higher layer is apophatic to the lower layer. What tier is this cosmology?
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