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tiering system

  1. PurposeDevine00

    The Ice King CRT (Fortnite).

    Introduction: - As you read from the title, I will be attempting to prove why The Ice King should get upgraded. I propose that he should be upgraded to [2-A] in terms of Attack Potency and Durability and I also think he should get the Infinite Speed Rating. This is also my first post, please...
  2. Flashlight237

    Island Level Requirement Issue: Yes, It's Literally About Cyprus

    So yeah, I hopped onto the wiki real quick to see what's up and... Well, here's the deal: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mountain_and_Island_Level_Requirements While the initial measurements are correct, the way we handle explosion yield messes with the math big time. See, the way the...
  3. Megaraptor149

    What Tier is This?

    The universes here are truly complex and varied. It could be said that the universe humans conceive of is genuinely possible and real, created from the results of simulations that are not even fully understood.
  4. ArachDusa

    What's the difference between Low 2-C and 2-C?

    Not the difference as in "How is it different", I mean the power difference. Low 2-C denotes being able to destroy one 4-D space-time continuum. Destroying more than one (But less than 1,000) is 2-C. But destroying multiple space-time continuums themselves isn't like destroying two houses inside...
  5. Jinx666

    Figuring out Tiering of this Structure (3-A or Low 2-C?)

    Hi there, I need help from people who know about tiering structures (and how characters would scale while interacting/destroying them) So i've been racking my brain a little about how to tier the structure (or species of structure ig) called Mystery Labyrinths from the game/verse Master...
  6. JimedBro2020

    Oversimplified: Qualitative Superiority

    Qualitative Transcendence/Superiority: The higher existence is not the union or successor of anything from the lower existence. These are not examples of a Qualitative Superiority: V_ω cannot be reached by any power set lesser than it, but it's still the union of all possible sets lesser than...
  7. Megaraptor149

    Extended Modal Realism?

    This is example of Extended Modal Realism?
  8. Gp972

    Nevermind,

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  9. About High 1-A+ baselines

    It's mentioned on this page about Tier 1 baselines, but my question is: how would this apply to High 1-A+ Type 1? The fact that a High 1-A+ Type 1 can affect all logically possible worlds doesn't mean that different baselines of this level cannot exist?
  10. PsychoticBall

    Composite Universe Tiering System (CUTS)

    I wanted to share a system I’ve been developing for ranking the overall power of fictional universes and see what people think about it. The idea came from noticing a recurring problem in cross-verse debates: most tiering systems evaluate individual characters, but in many cases the deciding...
  11. Flashlight237

    Analyzing Baseline GBEs for Tier 5 Stuffs

    So yeah, I was doing the math using the gravitational binding energy. As it currently stands, the gravitational constant is 6.6743*10^-11 (current as of 2022). I was doing some math going "ayo wtf?" on that and... Well, using the most currently-accurate stats, here's what I got: Moon...
  12. Some Potential addition or Expansion for the Tiering System. Your thoughts?

    Proposed Tiers Beyond 0 Tier Alpha (α): Meta-Boundless. This tier is for beings that transcend the very concept of "Boundlessness" itself. While a Tier 0 character is absolute within a specific logical framework, an Alpha character treats that entire framework as a limited subset of a larger...
  13. Reiner04

    Standard Clarification: Size of Higher Dimensional World/Universe/Realm

    This thread is intended to clarify the standard regarding the size of higher-dimensional realms/dimensions (or Universes which has been stated to be 5D) that has explicit size statements e.g., "infinite," "endless," or "continuously expanding" or incase of Universe, just simply being a...
  14. Eseseso

    What Tier would this be?

    Does being above "what any lone dimensionality can contain" when High 1-B stuff has already been established in the cosmology make you High 1-B, High 1-B+, or Low 1-A? Scan for reference:
  15. ArachDusa

    Beyond the Von Neumann Universe

    This post is going to kind of be two questions about the same general subject, which is mathematical structures that surpass baseline Low 1-A, or in other words, surpass the Von Neumann Universe. The wiki's tiering system page briefly mentions "the Von Neumann Universe (And larger structures...
  16. Old tiering system

    As I know, old tiering was like Boundless = Mahlo cardinal Infinite layers into boundless = Supercompact cardinal Immeasurable layers into boundless = High Jump Cardinal Irrelevant layers into boundless = Rank into rank Beyond tiering = 0=1 Infinite layers into beyond tiering = Reinhardt...
  17. Just_Butchering

    Baseline 10-A Question

    What makes a character baseline 10-A? As in what feats could warrant this rating? Does engaging in regular exercise count? (As in, is not a person that never trains, but not necessarily overdoes it)
  18. Maikolpry

    Athlete level

    The Athlete level can only be added to professional athletes or also to amateurs.
  19. Saqphire

    Question about Small/Large Building Level

    I'm wondering, what's the point of separating Building Level into Small, "normal" and Large Building Level when there's really no difference between these tiers as they're all fundamentally just about destroying a building in potency. For reference, Small Town and Town have a fundamental enough...
  20. MSahla

    Does this qualified for HDE.

    Does statements like this: Is enough to at least get Avatar Creation and "Possibly Higher-Dimensional Existence" or even enough to qualified Higher-Dimensional Existence? Here's the real scan of that It is further supported by the statement that "The real him is terrifying" Since the current...
  21. Agnaa

    Tiers Through State/Size

    Problem There are a few oddities presented by the current setup of our Tiering System. Despite tier being equivalent to Attack Potency, and thus, apparently representing how much a character can create/destroy, there are some tiers which don't properly line up with that: Tier 1-A & High 1-A...
  22. Jin2188

    Nigh-Omnipotence Page Creation

    I have permission from @Antvasima to make this post. I desire to make this page due to the lack of clarification regarding High 1-A+ Types 1 and 2. The only information we have about High 1-A+ on the wiki (that I know of at least, please let me know if I'm wrong) is just a few sentences on the...
  23. ElajRuengies

    Extradimensional Tiering Description Addition Proposal:

    Alright, because this has been annoying me for a while, here's the skinny: Existing in Higher Dimensional Space is not equivalent to possessing Higher Dimensional 'Weight.' By "weight" I don't mean size, I mean potency. As an example, imagine folding six 2-D squares into the 3rd Dimension to...
  24. Jin2188

    High 1-A+ should be its own tier

    What the title says. There are a few reasons why I think it would be better if High 1-A+ was its own tier. 1. It just makes more sense for the literal apex of powerscaling (aside from Tier 0 of course) to be it's own separate tier. I don't like that something so significant is relegated to a...
  25. Making 1+1=1 Manipulation?

    If a character can make 1+1=1, and its effects will be applied to everything applicable, what tier will it be?
  26. Meaningfulness of Absolute Nonexistence

    Is absolute nonexistence meaningless in tiering? This is not just nonexistent existence, but being utterly nonexistent from all aspects. For example, if something denied all formal and informal systems, all effable and ineffable things, and the broader "everything", making it not a thing at all...
  27. High 1-A+ Questions

    There's been a lot of threads asking for explanation of the High 1-A+ tier, because it is pretty confusing. High 1-A+ is divided into two subcategories: Type 1: characters who have the ability to actualize arbitrarily large worlds Type 2: characters who embody the framework of such worlds...
  28. IdiosyncraticLawyer

    Empty Space Feats

    In the aftermath of the threads https://vsbattles.com/threads/another-addition-revision-to-for-tier-2.157148/ and https://vsbattles.com/threads/tier-2-revision-merging-3d-spaces-and-destroying-empty-space.157173/, it was decided to create a new thread to answer the following question: I have no...
  29. Fixxed

    Literally bigger than 2A and infinite

    Well as we know, a structure that bigger than 2A is still 2A, but it only remain the same tier if the "bigger" are for more 2A structures, like a structure that contain many 2A structures in it self But it would be different if the "bigger" in context are for a literal size different The thing...
  30. Average140

    What is an “insignificant dimension?”

    Okay so the term insignificant dimension is kinda confusing for me like yeah I know it is a 5 dimension that is not proven to be universal in size hence insignificant and cannot be scaled to low 1c So basically a space time captures an uncountable number of snapshots of the universe making it...
  31. Agnaa

    High 1-A Wording Tweak

    Our Tiering System page says: While our Tiering System FAQ page says: These aren't exactly the same question, but they're close enough that I think it reads as a contradiction, and should be corrected. From the way the FAQ elaborates on things, I believe the key distinction is that a...
  32. Humanitus_Primevilus888

    Differences of possible worlds

    What’s the difference between ''All Possible/Conceivable Worlds'' and the High 1-A+ all Logically & Illogically possible worlds( logical space) and what are the rating? Can someone please translate this one too if possible?
  33. The_golden_and_silver_house94

    Timeline standards

    So i was reading the timeline standards and I came across this And this So in my understanding ,if there's a pocket space with a planet inside and it has a its own time dimension ,destroying this pocket space as a whole would be low 2c since unaccountable infinite number of planets have been...
  34. Hellformer

    Correlation of Concepts/Information with Low 1-A/1-A stuff

    Got permission from @Firestorm808 to make this staff thread An approach for Low 1-A/1-A cosmology As per Ultima, if a realm's existence is in such a way that it is "total absence of space and also completely dwarfs space itself", the realm must be Low 1-A/1-A in size. "Space itself" Now the...
  35. BluudyManikin777

    High 1-A: Qualitative Superiority over R>F

    Could a universe that is qualitatively superior to a universe, that has a reality-fiction transcendence, be counted as High 1-A?
  36. Zarovut

    Can a High 1-A+ Type 1 character "evolve" into High 1-A+ Type 2?

    Lets say (I'll be using Shinza Bansho as an analogy), Anon, who is High 1-A+ Type 1 (someone who can create arbitrarily large possible worlds while still existing in one), is a Hadou candidate, and he had just defeated the current ruling Hadou God and now inherits the Throne. Now, one of his...
  37. Ovy7

    Umineko Tier Revision Remake - Part 2

    Ok, so this is part 2 of this thread based on this original thread. Anyway: Even higher than the Witch Domain We are told that Featherine reached an even higher world than the Domain of Witches, one from which the entire Witch Domain is a mere gameboard, the same way the Human Domain is to the...
  38. Jepilstiltskin

    Question about Higher Dimension and Geometries related

    I wanted to ask, what tier does this kind of thing scaled to? There's this "being" that exist outside of dimensions and time, and that they're so big that such labels are pretty much insignificant to their concepts. They're a higher dimensional being whose too big for space-time to handle, and...
  39. YmTheSuper

    Destroying a part of a timeline

    What tier would destroying a part of a timeline (or an interval of time) be considered? And would a part of a timeline be considered of similar size to an infinite timeline? (Since the set of all real numbers and an interval of it share the same cardinality, making them formed the same number of...
  40. AlexSamDen

    Expanding structure with a time axis destruction feat

    I will explain the situation that I have this question about, without specifying the verse it comes from to avoid unnecessary bias. Thre is also a purpose of making it a general situation There is structure A that is a separate space-time continuum (with its own time axis). This structure is...
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