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tiering system

  1. Hirotoswnn1x

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    I have a lot of free time and would like to talk about tier 0. What characters will get 0 in the new tier description of ultima (monad) ?
  2. About the New Tiering System

    1. So if High 1-A will be for all hierarchies and cardinal numbers, and 0 will be for characters who are "monadic totalities"... What will High 1-A+ be? 2. If a character is akin to a monadic totality but its verse is not confirmed as infinite... For example, the verse consists of only one...
  3. TheOrangeGuy09

    Environmental Destruction, Low Multi and Qualitative Superiority

    For Environmental Destruction, I just wanted to ask: does being able to destroy timelines count as Universal Level+ Environmental Destruction AP, or just Universal Level+ AP? The guy in question never showed that he can concentrate that into a laser or something “smaller” to destroy an opponent...
  4. Finiznot

    Tier 10-B to 9-B Gap Revision

    As I sent a message to @Antvasima about this, I'm pretty sure this needs it real bad, why? Because Tier 10-A: Athletic, is so low, that pretty much even skinny inexperienced boxers can reach if not surpass it, while achieving 9-C is not quite the most easy tier to reach to in Real Life, 10-A has...
  5. Axscell

    Does this grant any tier?

    The following is a description of a certain character's capability. I'm wondering if it grants any tier, or maybe a likely/possibly. I'm thinking Low 1-A due to similar reason to the Downstreamers, but I'd like to hear more opinions.
  6. The Boundless tier can be defined as "Transcending Modern Mathematics"

    The Boundless tier don't have a clear defination, and this can work. This Tier completely supasses all other tiers, and they are within the BOUNDARY of modern Mathematics, so the Boundless tier can be defined as "Transcending Modern Mathematics", and this fits it and the tiering system well.
  7. Arc7Kuroi

    Tiering System Question

    What qualifies as a higher dimensional bulk space in the context of the Low 2-C definition on the tiering system page? Like say you have this all encompassing “astral sea” and within it are these spheres that represent entire universes. Presupposing they aren’t compactified, would this “astral...
  8. VS Battles Is Nonsense / Delete My Account

    I admire the attempt to tier characters across all fiction, but I can no longer deny that it is a fundamentally flawed concept that I wish I could get out of my mind. However, what happens here on VS Battles is worse than that. It is outright nonsense. This site literally has created its own...
  9. Napoleondevious

    how does transcandance via sheer size work?

    how do one achieve this type of TR, and how can it be represented without blatantly saying they are infinitesimal to each other (A and B)
  10. How many of you guys believe in the tiering system?

    By believing in the tiering system I mean you think it can accurately describe a character's capabilities along with the other systems. That is to say, whatever a well researched VSBW says is something that applies to the character. When you say a character is X tier, they are really X tier...
  11. Firestorm808

    Acceptable Narrative Examples of "Uncountably Infinite" Addition to the Tiering System Explanation Page

    Within our tiering system, we have used the phrase multiple times. "Being “infinitely” stronger than this level, unless uncountably so, does not qualify for any higher tier." "An uncountably infinite number, assumed to be the cardinality of the real numbers themselves" "such exceed any...
  12. Hypertornado099

    Question about 10-B

    Shouldn't this be Human level instead of Average level?
  13. Hirotoswnn1x

    Tiering system question

    If the characters look at the timeline 3 layers is fiction. Will he get 1-A from r>f trancescede or not ? because the character is not bound by time and time doesn't work for him?
  14. Hirotoswnn1x

    Questions about qaunlitive superior and qaulitive superior

    I have a few questions about the new tiering system. I want to know what the difference is between Qaulitive superior and qaunlitive superior, and how do meta quality and meta quanlity work? And is there an example case of Qaunlitive superior and Qaulitive superior? How can I do it?
  15. ProfessorKukui4Life

    Big Bang Questions & Clarifications

    The title. Making this because I’ve been absent from the site for quite some time and this is new to me. So it came to my attention recently that we treat Big Bangs as “non-physical” events since the Big Bang pretty much is just expanding space-time upon creation of whatever is getting created...
  16. GZ2022

    Is it possible that Ultima's Tiering System might be refuted in the revision?

    Just asking...
  17. StalkerCh

    Spational manipulation or attack potency ?

    Okay guys there is something that confuses me. Can be cutting or warping extradimensional space count as attack potency since it effects something extradimensional ? Or we will take it as hax?
  18. Epyriel

    Tier 5 Revision

    I would like to propose a revision to Tier 5 and Tier High 5-A, as well as a minor correction to Tier 5-C’s description. [Thread creation by non-staff member approved by Antvasima] Currently Tier High 5-A uses erroneous scientific nomenclature as it is named “Dwarf Star level” and is described...
  19. Fwyzzverse

    Revisions (Tiering System) : Tier 2

    Revisions Tier 2 In the vsbw arrived at the section of Tier 2: Multiversal, we have several multiversal thirds out in this same tier have the power scale such: Low 2-C = Exploit significantly on a zone of spaces representing universal sizes of space-time continuums. Low 1-C = Exploit on spaces...
  20. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Hi all. So, a bit ago, I made this thread. It got accepted, and the result of it was the discarding of the previous purely mathematical basis for tiers Low 1-A and above. These tiers, then, were changed to the following: Here, you can see a fairly clear progression on how the Tiering System...
  21. Hirotoswnn1x

    What star is it and what is tier ?

    According to the clip, the characters destroy a star but it is not specified what kind of star it is. But it's smaller than the moon. He should get a tier 5-C or 5-B ?. The impact on the world is nothing at all. There is still daytime and nighttime, plus there is the matter of the stars as...
  22. Hirotoswnn1x

    Questions about AP and destruction

    If you destroy the moon/sun, there will still be an episode. day and night Can it really be destroyed and get an AP impact? Does it look like an illusion or not?
  23. Frxwins

    Question about cosmology

    I have a few questions about Aleph after I read the tiering system. There are an infinite number of 4D universes where each universe will produce branches but only one universe The second explanation is similar to the previous explanation, there are an infinite number of universes but each...
  24. BasedNecoScaler69

    Tier 2 revision: Changing Space Time Continuum Standards. (Never cook again.)

    since a certain someone decided to tb me from a general discussion thread, i will now spread my cancer across the site. Rejoice. So currently,spacetime continuums that are smaller than universal in size fail to meet the requirements for low-2C. However, this line of reasoning fails to grasp on...
  25. Epsilon_R

    About Infinite range

    So in the range page, we have Universal range which is pretty much baseline 3-A and "up" Then it goes directly to Universal+ range, which is Low 2-C aka 4-D range The issue is the "up" in question. Does Univeral range account for infinite ranged attacks/pockets dimensions, basically High 3-A...
  26. Wikisource

    Neoplatonism question

    Neoplatonism, what tier will it be placed according to the current standards of vsb wiki? And can someone explain it clearly to me?
  27. Huesito88

    Question in this case could speed count for range? (and Also)

    Alright say there's a Universe that 6-D (let's say all the universes meet the standards for there dimensions) inside that 6-D Universe there's a infinite amount of 5-D Universes within these 5-D Universes there's a infinite amount of 2-A Multiverse and in every single Universe in the 2-A...
  28. Raskolux

    Q about time mp

    does the time manipulation hax have to be at least 4d by default? For example, is a time mp hax that does not affect all space and time still 4d?
  29. Georredannea15

    Re:evulation of temporal dimension standards

    Alr, here we go! I'd like to mention that I obtained permission from @Qawsedf234 🙏 Simply put, by our current standards, an "inclusive temporal dimension" that spans more than one space-time continuum is sufficient to qualify for Low 1-C. But, something is missing here. That is, whether the...
  30. JimedBro2020

    Where would my cosmology scale to?

    Dawn and Darkness cosmology: https://dawn-and-darkness.fandom.com/wiki/The_World_Cosmology Don't worry guys, I am totally mentally stable and not mentally not good 😊
  31. Reiner04

    Time dimension standard elaboration and a bit of change (whatever guess yourself)

    FAQ: Problematic part: This structure can then be generalized to any amounts of dimensions, and is also the reason destroying a spacetime continuum is a greater feat than destroying only the contents of the physical universe (Low 2-C, rather than 3-A or High 3-A). So, for example, a spacetime...
  32. BasedNecoScaler69

    Tier 2 Revision: I've played too much of the Science Adventure series.

    received permission from @IdiosyncraticLawyer Currently, we treat space and time as seperate entities, as shown by the space and time manipulation pages being separated, and how tier 2 works. Here's why this is massively incorrect. The Theory of Relativity, proposed by Albert Einstein in the...
  33. Raskolux

    Question about transcending the concept of space and time

    Is it 7D to transcend the concept of space-time in a verse that has 6D space?
  34. Lasting900

    Extra-versal?

    What is “Extra-Versal”? How is it different from Boundless?
  35. Wikisource

    Tiering question

    There's something I've wondered about for quite a while. We have two 4D universes (L2C according to wiki standards) within one realm/dimension. So between them there will be a 5th axis. This will make feats at levels 2C to 2A into L1C. So how should we make them truly L1C? I read the...
  36. EL_xWatcher1234x

    What tier is this cosmology ?

    A multiverse contain nine different universes with infinite possibilities (nine 2-A structures), separated from each other by a gap called "interval of worlds" but they are still govern by the same system, Concepts type 1 and laws of the universe (physics). In each branch there is a finite or...
  37. Iamunanimousinthat

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Since this was made a staff discussion, and most users can't comment on it, I thought it would be good, for the rest of us, to be able to speak their thoughts on it. It seems like something like this could potentially, change the tiering system and affect majority of the profiles on this site...
  38. Ultima_Reality

    On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System

    Or, "Why did I make this system? Am I stupid?" This thread has certainly been a long time coming. And though its placement in the general discussion board makes this clear already, it is probably best that I say it explicitly: I don't actually have any interest in bringing any changes to the...
  39. Rakih_Elyan

    Dealing with dimension, once and for all.

    This is a CRT to revise which tier we will grant to someone who transcend the abstraction of dimension, or the concept of dimensionality. For me personally, I think limited to the geometrical and physical dimensions that exist in the verse will suffice for their tier. With the CRT of SMT...
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