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Mr. Bambu

Mr. Bambu

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  • Silence after one message means I missed it; silence after two means "no".
    Phsccarvalho
    Hey Bambu, you ended up becoming my target for questions, so if this bothers you please tell me.

    Anyway, on Meridian59 I made two videos defeating statues and skeletons. One had the Touch of Flame magic and a weapon.

    With Touch of Flame, a vsbattle colleague of mine made this calculation.
    OK,

    It took seven blows for the arm to disappear, if that power is the touch of fire:

    The volume of an arm is 3958 cm³, since there is no steam, I will use melting.
    Rock melting value is 6174.5 J/cc

    6174.5 * 3958 = 24,438,671 J (9-A)

    24,438,671/7 = 3,491,238.71 (9-B+)


    (In the translator some "," became "." and some "." turned into ",", I don't know if that changes anything)
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    The question I'm unsure about is the number of hits. I'm not even close to the maximum level of this game and for example stronger fire spells (I used the most basic fire spell in the game)

    And I've seen calculations in Games/RPGs that didn't use the number of hits to break something or to kill an enemy.

    Example:
    Cuphead (I think the result is not divided by the number of bullets it takes the cuphead to destroy the pillar)
    Hylics (I also think that the calculation does not take into account the different attacks that the enemy MAY take and in the end have their life reduced to 0 to die and disappear or liquefied as in the original calculation)

    So, what should I do? Stone statues were the enemies with the greatest durability right away (because they are made of stone) to calculate.

    If you are strong enough, with any weapon, attack magic (fire, electricity, acid, etc.) you can kill them and the arm and head will always disappear when they are dying.
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    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    Do we know if the statue-guy was dodging attacks there?

    Failing all else, given the proximity to 9-B+, I think taking the lower end of your friend's calc is probably fine. Similar attacks that can one-shot the arm would scale to the full 9-A, since you mentioned a rather large disparity in damages and this being the weakest.
    Phsccarvalho
    Phsccarvalho
    See the chat, it shows what happens.

    The statue deviates from some moments. It also blocks.

    Also, it took a lot longer than 7 hits, I think my colleague missed attacks in the chat. And this is for this specific fire magic, which used melting, and not physical attacks or electricity, etc.

    Furthermore, it's impossible for me to test everything in the game to see what it's like. I'm not even close to the maximum level or spells and I've already played 90 hours.

    That's why I asked if I could do it like Cuphead and Hylics.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    We wouldn't really want you to be maximum level when testing lower-end spells, I think. Blocking similarly probably wouldn't matter (it would still be blocking with its arms), only dodging would.

    You're asking if we can just use the full value, I don't think that's right. Determining the number of attacks taken would be better.
    Phsccarvalho
    If I have a spell that makes an illusory wall of fire and another that makes illusory wounds on the target, but the damage is actually something real. Is this something more than creating illusion?

    To the point of what type, there is a creature resistant to fire, but it is not resistant to illusory wall of fire because it is not resistant to illusory damage.

    Illusionary Firewall: Creates an illusionary wall of fire. This wall will cause illusionary wounds to victims walking through it.

    Illusionary Wounds: Causes the victim to see imagined wounds, but imagination always gives in to one's right mind, assuming one lives so long.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    Subjective Reality sounds like an apt comparison. The wounds are real because the target believes they're real.
    ActuallySpaceMan42
    Do you have the time to review a Tier 1 CRT? Need one more staff member's input.
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    ActuallySpaceMan42
    ActuallySpaceMan42
    Do you know any other staff that may be willing to review this CRT? Besides Dark and Eliz, I mean.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    I can think of some it would be funny to send this to. Tier 1 stuff has ultimately fallen out of fashion amongst the staff I know personally, so I have trouble picking any that may be more sympathetic. Agnaa probably would if he had the time, he doesn't seem to mind the jargon as much. Could try him.
    ActuallySpaceMan42
    ActuallySpaceMan42
    Managed to finish the CRT, so that's cool. However, there is an issue with these two calcs not being verified... So if you're interested... 1 & 2
    DaReaperMan
    "Unto Elder Crone Magatha of the Grimtotem,
    Acting Warchief of the Horde, Garrosh Hellscream, Sends his most sincere wishes for a slow and painful death.

    It has come to my attention that you have deprived me of a rightful kill. Cairne Bloodhoof was a hero to the Horde and an honorable member of a usually honorable race. It is with disgust and anger that I discover you have caused me to bring about his death through accidental treachery.

    Such tactics may work well for your renegade, honorless tribe and Alliance scum, but I despise them. It was my wish to fight Cairne fairly, and win or lose by my own skill or lack of it. Now I shall never know, and the cry of traitor will dog my steps until such time as I can sport your head on a pike and point to you as the real traitor.

    So...no. I will not be sending any truehearted orcs to fight alongside your treacherous, belly-crawling tribe. Your victory or your defeat is in the hands of your Earth Mother now. Either way, I look forward to hearing of your demise.

    You are on your own, Magatha, as friendless and disliked as you have ever been. Perhaps more. Enjoy your loneliness." ~ Garrosh Hellscream

    Don't mind me just posting one of the best quotes in fiction on your wall
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    Garrosh doesn't even have the best quotes in WoW.
    DaReaperMan
    DaReaperMan
    I'm probably biased TBF,(favorite character and all) but yeah, Pre-BFA WoW has some ******* awesome quotes
    DavidTPPM
    Hi, would you mind giving your input on this CRT please?
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    The God Of High School - revising the gods

    This is a pretty simple ability addition thread so there is no need for a TLDR or anything like that. God physiology: There are certain abilities that all gods possess. To simplify this and shorten the profiles, I made this blog post where I index them all. So far only pure gods will have this...
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    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    I suspect it will end poorly, but you have my insight.
    Renitr
    Hello. Can you please take a look please
    Tearing jaw is Class 10 LS
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    Recalculation to tear off a human jaw

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    Super Variant Walker tear jaw of another super variant walker


    But because the bones of walkers are more rotten than those of humans, I think is class 5 LS?

    And Daryl could resist and struggle with this type of walker


    Scene where a walker breaks soldier neck


    What do you think?
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    I think I will someday lose my mind on this website, but not today.
    TheAlmightyKoals
    On updating the Amatsu page I definitely shouldn't be the one doing it since I know only the very basics about editing Wiki pages. It definitely should be someone with experience unless I'm expected to be the one to implement the edits to the Amatsu page due to creating the content revision.

    Edited: Ignore the previous statements I figured out how to edit the Amatsu page and got it done thank you for helping me with all of this Mr. Bambu.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    (Probably could've made these two a message and then a reply to that message- no harm done to me but people get touchy about that sort of thing)

    It really is very simple, since it's just adding in: [[Electricity Manipulation]] ([(insert youtube link here) Produces arcs of lightning as part of many of its attacks]).

    Still, I can do so if it concerns you. I'll also lock your thread.
    TheAlmightyKoals
    TheAlmightyKoals
    I did not know you could reply to your own messages thanks for letting me know.
    TheAlmightyKoals
    So, since the update to Amatsu has been approved who's going to be updating the page and when should it be updated? Also, can you get someone to lock the thread for the Amatsu update now that its been 48 hours with no objections.
    Accelerated_Evolution
    Hi

    Since you looked the right guy to ask that:

    What do you think should be done with this profile? It lacks scans and is bad formatted
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    I reached out to the guy who created it and put it in a sandbox for him; page has been deleted, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
    Tomfer
    You're cooking up more Baldur's Gate 3 profiles?
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    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    If you'd like, I'm not opposed. Bit profiles should be fairly easy (although Act 3 is going to be a mess).
    Tomfer
    Tomfer
    All I need is the stats (AP, Speed, LS and etc) from each act and that's pretty much.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    Earlier acts vary: Act 1 tends to vary between 9-B and 9-A with the greatest showings already having been made (Grym as a Low 7-B, W'wargaz as a High 8-C to 8-A). Act 2 similarly varies, obviously with Ketheric scaling much higher than his compatriot bosses here (Dame Aylin being an exception and explicit equal to Ketheric, even in his new ascended form).

    Level scaling has been deemed by the D&Dbros to be a fall-back for scaling- that is, it can be used if there exists no other method of scaling. A good example of this is Grym, who is leveled atrociously low in-game and yet by all lore accounts should be at least a Low 7-B, hence his being rated as such. It is because of this that I would find it difficult to give a one-size-fits-all scale to you that matches how we currently handle D&D on the site: instead, I suggest you ask me about a character and I can offer insight specifically for that character.

    As for Act 3, it is a considerably sized cascading mess, as previously mentioned. There is little uniformity to the powers and strengths of the various actors on the stage. Major characters vary from Lorroakan, who is a charlatan and specifically incapable of batting where he claims to bat (and is probably around 8-C or so) to Cazador, who is at the very least Low 7-B if not higher, to Ansur, who is very likely an ancient bronze dragon (which would make him 6-C or so). Raphael is most certainly insanely powerful, although the extent of this is not known- being the heir to an archdevil throne implies either 6-C or Low 6-B/6-B. I say all of this to illustrate the wide variety of ratings that would exist.

    Speed ratings would be directly linked to AP, so I can just tell you straight up which of the speed calcs they scale to, that bit isn't a problem. LS is similarly fairly simple.
    Lloydblitzed
    Can this count as a win for FSM's page? (Like can I add that he won the match in his profile or nah)
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    Spinjitzu Master vs Beerus

    VS The First Spinjitzu Master vs Beerus Both are Low 2-C Spinjitzu Master is in character and Beerus is bloodlusted Speed Equalised Win via KO or Death Fight takes place in the Realm of Madness (or Dark Realm) Sorry if this is a stomp
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    Chritin
    Weird question, but I was recently looking back at some bloodborne stuff on the wiki and saw this scaling blog you posted a while back.

    Even though some of things feel outdated (like the moving of the Moon still being attributed to Rom) I was wondering if you had any thoughts on what from this thread would still be valid. I’m planning on hopefully contributing more to the Bloodborne pages in general soon.
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    Chritin
    Chritin
    Fair. As of now, I really just had ideas for calculating other feats that probably wouldn’t add new tiers, but just reinforce existing ones. For example, Rom’s Metors, Ebrietas’s a call beyond, etc. I also wanted to take a look at Amygdala’s laser attack, since I recently found in the strategy guide it is quite literally made of light. Anyways, thank you for the confirmation.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    Note that for higher statements (such as light speed stuff) we have a fairly high ceiling of evaluation- even if it says light, how we'd regard it may not be as light speed. Amygdala's laser seems to me like something we would say "this doesn't act like light, it's not light".

    Still, I welcome Bloodborne work, do feel free to reach out to me for calc help and evaluation. It is my favorite video game of all time (or, at least, wrestles for that title with Darkest Dungeon).
    Chritin
    Chritin
    Can’t say I’ve played the other two, but Bloodborne is certainly my own as well. I’ll keep you in the loop.
    Phsccarvalho
    Bamboo, like you are from old RPGs.

    I'm doing an RPG profile, but it's basically impossible to calculate speed things, like throwing electricity/lightning at someone.

    The spell is played and any enemy in the game can block/dodge it. What speed should I put in "speed"? If it is not possible to calculate it.

    By the way, do you know Meridian59?
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    Phsccarvalho
    Phsccarvalho
    I tried a lot on several guys and no one is dodging/blocking the Shocking Fury. I don't know if there is no way to dodge/block this attack or if the chance is low. At most I saw "x enemy ignored the attack" and I don't even know what that means.

    Well, for now I'll have to forget about that idea until I see someone dodging/blocking or get the Lightning Bolt and see if it's the same thing.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    If something ignores an attack, normally this implies immunity (in this case, to lightning damage).

    Do let me know, I'm happy to assist. I may also play the game myself, looks interesting.
    Phsccarvalho
    Phsccarvalho
    He was still taking damage.

    I'm going to do a little gameplay of me walking and using some magic on a skeleton.

    gameplay.

    In the gameplay I walked a little, then used the "touch of flame" spell to burn the skeletons. Then I used "Zap" to electrify them, but they are skeletons and electricity doesn't do much damage to them.

    The interesting thing about Zap is that the description says it is natural electricity and they can deviate from that. The problem is that it's through touch, so it could be argued that they simply deflected my hand, and that my hand wouldn't move at the speed of electricity.

    I used the magic through the chat, but I can also put it on a key, in this case F1 for me, but I used the chat to show you what I used.

    Meridian59 was the first 3D RPG in the world, and because of a Brazilian YouTuber the game has more players (maximum 40), most of them Brazilian. It's cool because you almost always meet basically the same people, so you end up remembering the players more.
    GunshyFever
    Hello again, could I please get your opinion on these neat profiles?
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    Denji (Chainsaw Man) Rework

    As I promised some time ago, my next CRT was going to be a complete Dennis rework. So here it is. New Page ~ https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:CowHeadGod/Denji Old Page ~ https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Denji_(Chainsaw_Man) Now, for those who are wondering where the hell his Chainsaw...
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    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    I note that this is the third CRT you bring to my doorstep recently, which means soon I will be obligated to put all of your CRT requests at a lower priority in favor of others asking for my aid.
    GunshyFever
    GunshyFever
    That's fine, your help is much appreciated 🙏
    Hirotoswnn1x
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    Official Calculations Discussion Thread

    So, based on what you're saying is, it'd be like this? 6.087799e+18/4 = 1.5219498e+18 m^2 Energy (Low-end): 5.693e+41 * (9.6488373e+37 / 1.5219498e+18) = 3.6092406e+61 J (Individual yield of Saitama and Garou being 1.8046203e+61 J) Energy (Mid-end): 5.693e+41 * (6.0305233e+40 /...
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    I want to know what size the sun should be. If I want to post a user blog, how should I write it?
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    I'm not sure I understand your meaning. Can you elaborate? The sun has a definitive size- that is, around 696,000 kilometers in radius.
    CurrySenpai
    Hey, I made my “last” few arguments in the SAO CRT, if you could check that out and give your final thoughts I’d really appreciate it.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    The quotation marks around "last" are not a confidence-giving add-on. If the discussion is to carry on for some time I will probably wait til it's over.
    CurrySenpai
    CurrySenpai
    Yeah you're right, fuji's writing a new ersponse, apologies for the interruption.

    i'll ask DMUA when he's ready to get eveyrone's attention back again.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    You're good. For what it's worth, I wish you luck.
    Chris_only9271
    Hi, it's me again. Firstly, my apologies for disturbing you. I have a few questions to ask, and I hope you will be willing to address them.

    on the EE page, it is stated that "This ability's destructive power is not absolute, and one should not assume that it can erase the soul by default. It can only be judged by what it has accomplished,"
    does the purpose of the word 'soul' in this context mean 'non-physically'?

    And what is stated on Incorporeality page regarding "Killing Incorporeal Beings":

    "Incorporeal beings can be killed through:

    • Soul Manipulation, as long as the entity in question has a soul.
    • Reality Warping
    • Conceptual Manipulation
    • Time Manipulation."

    Regarding the type of reality warping that can kill Incorporeal beings, does there need to be a demonstrated feat or example showing the effectiveness of these abilities against incorporeal beings to claim that these abilities can kill them? In other words, should there be evidence or precedent indicating that these powers can indeed affect incorporeal beings before making such a claim?

    Thank you so much 🙏
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    does the purpose of the word 'soul' in this context mean 'non-physically'?
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    I believe "soul" is used here to refer to any non-substantial component of the being, so yes.

    Regarding the type of reality warping that can kill Incorporeal beings, does there need to be a demonstrated feat or example showing the effectiveness of these abilities against incorporeal beings to claim that these abilities can kill them? In other words, should there be evidence or precedent indicating that these powers can indeed affect incorporeal beings before making such a claim?
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    Generally speaking, yes, Reality Warping does not automatically possess the ability to interact with the soul and needs to show such a capability- it is just that such an ability most frequently can.

    Although, I should note that RW could, even without direct interaction with the soul, indirectly affect it presuming that soul is within the "reality" that is being warped. Make of this what you will.
    Chris_only9271
    Chris_only9271
    thank you so much 🙏

    you made it all so clear.
    Jamesthetaker
    Hi there, can you please take a look at this thread?
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    Kamen Rider Agito's 6-C Downgrade

    Copy-paste from this blog. El of the Water creates a vicious thunderstorm feat are calculated as 6-C (Island level), however, the calc used potential energy and kinetic energy, both of which are wrong. The potential energy method is invalid due to the current Storm Calculations being revamped a...
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    Phsccarvalho
    Sorry to bother you, I'm just asking some people about a question.

    1 - Would breaking a soul in half, whether with weapons or magic, be soul hax?

    2 - Would using magic on a soul be soul hax? (burning, freezing, electrifying, poisoning, paralyzing, etc.)

    I've seen some verses with soul hax for some of these things, but I've also seen people saying that breaking souls in half or using magic on them is just NPI, so I don't know.

    And I don't think the Soul hax and NPI hax page goes into great detail about the difference between them and what can be considered what.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    1 - Would breaking a soul in half, whether with weapons or magic, be soul hax?
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    Certainly sounds like soul hax to me, although I suppose it could be covered by NPI, yes.

    2 - Would using magic on a soul be soul hax? (burning, freezing, electrifying, poisoning, paralyzing, etc.)
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    Uncertain. Does the magic have some particularly special interaction with the soul, or is it just hitting it? Non-Physical Interaction covers the latter.

    And I don't think the Soul hax and NPI hax page goes into great detail about the difference between them and what can be considered what.
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    The main thing is specific interactions with the soul. Hitting something with your sword isn't a special interaction, but if said sword was explicitly like "this gives soulburn, causing your soul to burn away and you die", then you're entirely within reason to call that Soul Manipulation. As long as the applications are clear, I don't think you need to stress much about it one way or the other.
    GunshyFever
    Hello, can I please have your opinion on this CRT? we need more staff opinions
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    Chainsaw Man Massive Upgrades and Profile Revisions

    The Gun Devil carries the verse once more by just being huge and fast, I will be discussing who scales to this calc Note: Fear Scaling: As Devils embodying the fear of a concept, the more feared they are, the more powerful they become even a relatively minor boost in fear can immensely boost a...
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    GunshyFever
    GunshyFever
    Odd, the thread seemed to have crashed, can you please check it?
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    Just the forum itself being down briefly- maintenance, most likely.
    Renitr
    Hello. Did you know people who can do calc with Movies and TV Series characters? I need to calculate this feat. I can't do it myself because I'm new here.
    Daryl form TWD dodge rifle shot woth body shield. Starts 00:00

    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    would really rather not watch that as its something I want to watch when I finish the normal Walking Dead stuff, good luck though
    Gendolfgg1
    Hello. Could you comment on this and rate it? (Oh, you seem to be one of the few members of staff who responds to Harry Potter threads)

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    Upgrading the level of physical durability of wizards

    So, let's start with the fact that, according to Newt Scamander's direct words, wizards are physically different from ordinary people. There were a lot of prerequisites in the books that wizards could not die in the usual ways. For example, when Hagrid was told that Harry's parents had died in a...
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    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    Please don't take what I'm about to say as rude or spiteful.

    No, I'm not a staff member who responds to Harry Potter CRTs. I have no real interest in them, I consumed the media many years ago and moved on. The fact is that staff just sorta have to respond to stuff that's requested of 'em, I think I just do it slightly more than others (and I have a soft spot for CRTs in limbo).

    Now, a hidden rule I run is that I will deliberately choose CRTs for verses with less activity compared to shit like the most popular anime/comics/etc. The second hidden rule is that if I get asked to look at the same verse in succession, I will quietly lower the priority of that verse for each time. I got asked to do a shitload of Godzilla CRTs and calcs and then I stopped going to them, simply too many CRTs.

    I'll take a look at this, but I want people to understand that I'm not an exception of the staff, I just operate by different creeds.
    Gendolfgg1
    Gendolfgg1
    I understand you, but I really respect you for being so active. Respect
    Jhonatan
    If it's not too much trouble, you could read this proposal for this hypothetical situation that I present to you.

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    How much speed does a "Near the speed of light" claim have?

    If a character has only one declaration of going at a speed close to the speed of light, would he fall into the base category of Relativistic + [50% of the speed of light]? One could guess or assume that having the word "near the speed of light" means 90%, 99% of the speed of light, but these...
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    PS: In the conversations I answer the reasons why I give such an answer.
    LordGriffin1000
    I'm getting started on reworking the Okage Shadow King profiles (getting scans and such) and I wanted to know your thoughts on if I should create separate blogs explaining Classification, Deviants, and Overshadowed? Or should I compile them into one blog and name it like "Okage Shadow King Terminology" or something like that?
    Gendolfgg1
    Hi. Could you rate the Harry Potter updates that are listed? Thanks

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    The Great upgrade a level of wizards

    Partially bypassed, and as we have discussed before, I think this is probably (mostly) unique to this curse, as we don't see any other spells with the same effect. I don't think this spell is designed for Hax, because after Harry was hit by a spell under a protective counter spell, he felt the...
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    SweetDao
    Hello and sorry to bother you Mr._Bambu.

    I have a question regarding a future CRT I'm planning. Basically, there is a character who possesses a powerful "accelerated development" ability that allows him to limitlessly evolve to always be stronger than his opponent, although it is not instantaneous. That character would be 12D in attack potency as a baseline level. However, during one fight in the story, he's obligated to fight against a clone of himself possessing the same ability. In the end, he grows so strong that he partially destroys a 13D realm as collateral damage.

    He also states the following: "No matter who the person is or from where story they come from, in this place my setting/chara design is invincible." (The only exception is the MC but that's something else)

    Would that be too much to assume he could, hypothetically, reach High 1-B against an opponent of this level? Even as a "possible rating"?
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    My opinion, "possibly higher" covers it totally fine. It certainly shouldn't be High 1-B under any interpretation- expanding ever upward does not equate to reaching infinity. The most generous possible interpretation would be at most 1-B- I am not of the habit of giving the most generous possible interpretation, however, and think "possibly higher" is fine enough.
    SweetDao
    SweetDao
    Thank you for your opinion! One last question if that's fine.

    In the same story, the MC is said to be "above/beyond the setting" of said character, does that mean we can assume he's one dimension above at least?
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    If they're literally saying that he's above the framework of the entire story in a metafictional sense: yeah, Ultima's change to the tiering system (depending on how that's going) would even make that 1-A, afaik. Talk to him about it.
    Shadow_x007x
    We need one more calc group's opinion to close this thread. Can you help me?
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    Mashle - Change in speed calculation

    Mashle Scaling Revisions 1. Mash Overcomes Lance's Reaction Speed Current Scaling: Subsonic+ (Mach 0.51) Proposal: Utilize Lance's peak human perception timeframe, which aligns with the high-end calculation for this feat. Lance's perception should not be limited to that of a regular human...
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    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    I can try.
    Mr. Bambu
    Mr. Bambu
    Actually, why? You have 2-3 CGMs approvals and it seems like you're going to set up a new thread for the CRT itself?
    Shadow_x007x
    Shadow_x007x
    Yes, but I need another vote to calculate option 3 on whether or not it should be changed first.
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