Equal Stats Tournament 2022: Rex Salazar vs Garou (Semi-Final 1)

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Garou wouldn't give him that chance, since it'd be over with a single hit

 

[Jag50]

the problem is, he can't do this instantly, in your own scans, he took several lasers before his adaption kicks in

I mean, yeah. It doesn't happen instantly. His Nanites have to see a problem arising first.

 

[Kachon123]

I mean, yeah. It doesn't happen instantly. His Nanites have to see a problem arising first.

It will be far too late.

 

[Jag50]

Garou wouldn't give him that chance, since it'd be over with a single hit

Garou's is way faster, way more constant, and consistent

Again, no...That's not how equal stats tournament works.

You're literally going in circles now.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

The problem here is the speed amp and Garou's vibrations, if it wasn't for those, Rex would annihalate

 

[Kachon123]

Again, no...That's not how equal stats tournament works.

I'm talking about his evolving and adapting.

Also, it would be over in a single hit because of shockwaves dura neg that turns enemies into dust.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Again, no...That's not how equal stats tournament works.

You're literally going in circles now.

But the problem is, is that He'd have to see the abilities in action BEFORE he adapts, which Garou would have torn him apart by then, since he doesn't even need to hit to do damage with one of his styles either, and Garou can constantly change styles

 

[Jag50]

Agreed. I'm well aware of this. But the same could be said for Rex.

However, Rex's only begins when the opponent poses an issue to him. Does Garou's adaptive evolution happen even when he's fine and comfortable? Because I can only recall this stuff happening in battles worth his time (Or battles where he is pre-exhausted prior hand)

 

[Jag50]

I'm talking about his evolving and adapting.

Also, it would be over in a single hit because of shockwaves dura neg that turns enemies into dust.

Garou has a durability bypassing shockwave? You sure that's not raw potency?

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

It's pretty much the same technique that turns things to dust if I recall correctly

 

[Kachon123]

Garou has a durability bypassing shockwave? You sure that's not raw potency?

It's not. It's martial arts.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

and since Garou can blend all his styles into one at the same time, it's not far off to say that even if that indiviual style isn't, that the blended style would do that

 

[FinePoint]

I'm not sure about the whole dust argument, frankly that seems iffy to me.

I do still have to officially vote for Garou now, though.
Rex has pretty good wincons with dura-neg and adaption of his own, but I simply see Garou adapting way faster and ending the battle before it becomes a problem.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

It's not. It's martial arts.

Kachon knows more about OPM than me, so I'll defer to him

 

[Jag50]

It's pretty much the same technique that turns things to dust if I recall correctly

I thought Garou's whole shtick was just "Kill me quick before I turn you into paste"

.....Which is why every single Martial Artist ability he has is supercharged and roided up. I didn't know that attack counted as a passive attack

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

I thought Garou's whole shtick was just "Kill me quick before I turn you into paste"

.....Which is why every single Martial Artist ability he has is supercharged and roided up. I didn't know that attack counted as a passive attack

it's definitely not passive

 

[DemonicDude]

To be fair, Garou shouldn't even have been used for this tournament

There was only like 2 votes difference or else this would've been Cyborg vs Cyborg aka Rex vs Genos when I did the poll

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Well, My final vote is for Garou, with his Speed amping, which would likely catch Rex off guard

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Even if Rex could adapt to it, I don't think that he'd be able to land a hit on Garou once he starts speed amping, and eventually garou would break through and overpower Rex

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

not to mention, that even if Rex did, it'd just piss Garou off and make it worse on himself, especially after Garou regenerates

 

[Kachon123]

Voting Garou

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Yea... gonna go with Garou FRA

 

[TheForgottenKing]

Garou FRA

 

[LordGinSama]

Garou FRA, but the 800x figure for his Adaptation speed is definitely wanked. That's entirely dependent on fan calcs which can change any second, it's not concrete or anything of the sort.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Garou FRA, but the 800x figure for his Adaptation speed is definitely wanked. That's entirely dependent on fan calcs which can change any second, it's not concrete or anything of the sort.

THANK YOU

Anyways yeah, even after seeing the new arguments, and disregarding the wankish 800x shit, Garou still seem to hold the upper edge, and the skill difference is apparent. Garou FRA.

 

[Popted2]

Garou FRA

 

[Epiccheev]

Garou Fra

 

[Phoenks]

You're saying Garou's adaptive evolution is going to skyrocket over the multipliers provided by Super saiyans 1 through Blue? And Ultra Instinct? Seriously?

He went from massively Hypersonic to FTL in a few seconds

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

He can sense killing intent

like if anyone in the area(even ones he can’t visibly see) has any internet to kill Him he will be alerted to it

And wtf? Sensing killing intent is still just enhanced senses, he still doesn't know their location

Which is why he needed to literally make a hole to see

 

[Kachon123]

Thats Grace btw.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I still don't see garou having a chance to adapt and grow in stats when this is all it takes plus being invisible, not only that garou has no way of avoiding it at the beginning as he could can only sense the area of his location and or sense that he has swung something which garou has no idea what it does or what happens. Garou would likely think it's just a normal sword

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Anyways like I said, I'll get to everything when my exam is done.

Well... Um, you would need to create a time machine now hopefully the exam might help you with that

 

[Phoenks]

I still don't see garou having a chance to adapt and grow in stats when this is all it takes plus being invisible, not only that garou has no way of avoiding it at the beginning as he could can only sense the area of his location and or sense that he has swung something which garou has no idea what it does or what happens. Garou would likely think it's just a normal sword

He has to actually hit Garou in the head for it to work, which is unlikely given Garou's reactions and skill. Not to mention it only cut through a single atom so I'm not even sure if it counts.

Btw it doesn't seem that Rex uses invisibility with his sword. That seems out of character for him. Also you guys are betting on Rex to use two specific things from his very expansive arsenal. That being his invisibility and his sword, which he doesn't even seem to start with in most cases.

It seems way more likely for Garou to just overwhelm him with skill, vibrations, and RE.

 

[TheForgottenKing]

And wtf? Sensing killing intent is still just enhanced senses, he still doesn't know their location

Which is why he needed to literally make a hole to see

No he needed to make the hole and he needed the the guide book In order to see WHO exactly was after him

He still knew he had been surrendered by multiple people based off sensing their killing intent before he could see who they were

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

surrendered

 

[Greenshifter]

Well... Um, you would need to create a time machine now hopefully the exam might help you with that

If you’ve taken a good luck at my profile pic you’ll notice that I don’t need one.

I’m very glad everyone in this thread waited for my input btw.

 

[Jag50]

"You can't just counter the concept of martial arts"

Uhhhhh lets see.

An ability to passively absorb kinetic force and momentum and return it, Total Friction manipulation, Energy stagnation - Do I go on?....

He can literally make a build that makes punching, kicking or whatever physical strike irrelevant to him technically if that's what the Nanites dictate so.......Yeah.

To be fair, Garou shouldn't even have been used for this tournament

Garou wouldn't give him that chance, since it'd be over with a single hit

Need these to be addressed. I'm getting far too many mixed implications here that doesn't correlate well.

Not even going to address the Garou adaptation number scale that was attempted because that doesn't even work for a variety of reasons, but you guys already covered that for me.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Jag, Your literally arguing something old at this point, your "Rex perfectly adapts to counter anything" argument is such bullshit too

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

The styles are irrelevant. Rex's Nanites attack the /CORE/ aspect of the opponent's ability. In this case being Garou's martial arts prowess. He would have to find a way to overcome that very concept itself.

What do you mean by two things at once? And how does that correlate to the power creep overcoming Rex's powers?

The only KNOWN Weaknesses to the Nanites adaptability would be.

1: Insane stats gap from the start...Which...Isn't a factor to an equal stats tournament.

2: Some incalculable, laws of physics, super-meta BS. Like a gag character with toon force or some ability that bends the laws of realty or yada yada. Stuff like that

 

[Rikimarox2]

Calm down.