GodlyCharmander
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ain't that a stomp then?
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Depends on how much Ace is willing to directly go Kaioken here, I believe he will only try that after he tries to take an analysis over the Rookie's power level to take something into account.ain't that a stomp then?
Using Kaioken times 5 and higher makes Future Warrior 4-C according to your scaling, so that can be restricted according to VSBW battle rules, since if:You can actually go Kaioken x20 straight away just by having enough ki, I believe it requires 5 ki to go Kaioken x20
FW has only three KKs.Using Kaioken times 5 and higher makes Future Warrior 4-C according to your scaling, so that can be restricted according to VSBW battle rules, since if:
Ginyu Saga Future Warrior ~ First Form Freeza/Frieza >>>>>>>> 28.8 Tenatons
Ginyu Saga KK5 FW >>>>> 144 Tenatons = 4-C
Ginyu Saga KK20 FW >>>>> 576 Tenatons = 4-C+
So, from what he DOES scaleIn-game, they only like... give you 15% boost in damage, but... yeah,they only got these three.
Also, I was... kinda wrong, Toeiverse Freeza is Large Star in his first form. So this Ginyu Saga FW is definitely not scaling from Toeiverse
i think we should yea.Them naybe we should hold off the match until the scaling is revised?
Most safest assumption is King Vegeta's feat as of now, since the scaling of the profile apparently needs to be revised.So, from what he DOES scale
We do know that he should at least scale above KK4 Saiyan Saga Goku, who scales 4 times above King Vegeta's featMost safest assumption is King Vegeta's feat as of now, since the scaling of the profile apparently needs to be revised.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't immediately go for them. At least not at firstWhat stops Avatar from using the Void Wispon? Or the Transmutation from Cube?
The Avatar starts by using Red Burst, not Void or Cube, the latters would be potentially used as trump cards during the fight in case the Avatar decides to spam shockwaves from a distance. Both got wincons, Ace can amp his AP via KK.What stops Avatar from using the Void Wispon? Or the Transmutation from Cube?
What are the arguments for both characters?
The Avatar probably has the AP advantage the moment the fight initiates, with Ace having the ability to perform KK in case he actually needs to close the power gap.
The Avatar has 2 different wispons which would be the ones whom would settle the combat for the most times, Void and Cube, while also having the ability to create duplicates using other weapons.
FW/Ace has arguably better skill advantage due to him being someone talented in martial arts from his pov. Also the ability to grow stronger mid-combat due to possessing Saiyan genes. The Avatar is more proficient at using weapons for close combat.
Why? There are avatars that use the Drill and Void wispons, respectively. Shouldn't it be an equal chance to use all of them?I'm pretty sure he doesn't immediately go for them. At least not at first
Yeah, but... why?yea but they dont use it first
Because they usually don't start with wisps. Like Sonic, Avatar starts with CQC attacks, but will use one of the wispons if he needs toYeah, but... why?
I don't recall Avatar doing that after I replayed Forces for the 9372nd time, but okay I guessBecause they usually don't start with wisps. Like Sonic, Avatar starts with CQC attacks, but will use one of the wispons if he needs to
This profile covers Xenoverse 1, not Xeno 2.Okay, so... Uhhh, does Xenoverse 2 have King Vegeta's Dwarf Star feat?
Oh... Well, that changes things a lot, especially with Kaioken being a totally separate ability in Xeno 1This profile covers Xenoverse 1, not Xeno 2.
But he scales pretty casually above Dark Magic amped villains at this point so.So assuming that he scales above Baseline, FW would be 22.5 Tenatons, while Avatar has a big scaling chain above 32 Tenatons
inb4 we actually do have to make a crt for his scaling
Toeiverse here merges the two.But he scales pretty casually above Dark Magic amped villains at this point so.
Actually, does the Toeiverse timeline specify in what timeskip the movies takes place in? Since that would affect something about it.
Oh well, this is pretty ****** up.Toeiverse here merges the two.
And yes, the Xenoverse Canon does take place in Toeiverse as it has the movies in it
So we can assume Kid Vegeta > King Vegeta = 1.8 Tenatons as shown before.
Aight, did you get an answer from him?I'll ask AKM