Custom Avatars are going to have a clash.

[Gabs22_Gamer]

The Avatar VS The Future Warrior​

• Ginyu Force Saga Ace is going to be used
• Speed is equalized.
• The battle takes place at the surface area of Babylon Garden.
• Music, for fun.

Ace:

Rookie: Ailamiona (1)

Incon: sanicspood, ElixirBlue, JED, Brak, Cropfist, GodlyCharmander, Knifeman29 (7)

 

[Braking]

who leads in ap?

 

[Braking]

Also what race are you using for FW?

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Also what race are you using for FW?

From my jurisdiction all of the races are allowed.
The avatar in compensation has access to all of his wispons.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

FW upscales to (Casual) first form Frieza's planet Vegeta nuke however the scaling on the profile seems a bit off since it's the Ginyu force key yet none of the Ginyu force members are low 4-C (That probably needs to be fixed tbh).

The OC upscales from this due to beating Infinite alongside (post-forces Sonic) who previously stomped (pre-forces) Sonic, Silver and Omega.

I'm not sure about the scaling chains for both tho.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

FW upscales to (Casual) first form Frieza's planet Vegeta nuke however the scaling on the profile seems a bit off since it's the Ginyu force key yet none of the Ginyu force members are low 4-C (That probably needs to be fixed tbh).

Wouldn't Ace scale to something like a casual Final Form Frieza? Since he contributed to his defeat most of the time alongside Goku before he achieved SSJ.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Wouldn't Ace scale to something like a casual Final Form Frieza? Since he contributed to his defeat most of the time alongside Goku before he achieved SSJ.

IDK the low 4-C key is labelled as "Ginyu force saga" and uses fighting the Ginyu force as scaling jurisdiction while the key that (presumably) does actually fight Frieza is 4-B (Due to Frieza getting amped by Towa).

That's why I'm confused by the scaling.

 

[Shmooply]

Hey, this is pretty neat and fitting.
Following.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

IDK the low 4-C key is labelled as "Ginyu force saga" and uses fighting the Ginyu force as scaling jurisdiction while the key that (presumably) does actually fight Frieza is 4-B (Due to Frieza getting amped by Towa).

Well, safest way, since the profile uses DB's toeiverse scaling the best we could try to assume is that he is comparable to Slug Saga Base Goku or amped by KK?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Well, safest way, since the profile uses DB's toeiverse scaling the best we could try to assume is that he is comparable to Slug Saga Base Goku or amped by KK?

Yeah that makes more sense to me, Also you reminded me how much I hated that Ginyu mission when your forced to play as him (Due to body swap shenanigans) while making sure Krillin and Gohan don't die to never-ending Frieza force fodder spawning... :/

Anyway AP seems rather comparable on first glance but what exactly IS the scaling chain for both?

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Yeah that makes more sense to me, Also you reminded me how much I hated that Ginyu mission when your forced to play as him (Due to body swap shenanigans) while making sure Krillin and Gohan don't die to never-ending Frieza force fodder spawning... :/

Anyway AP seems rather comparable on first glance but what exactly IS the scaling chain for both?

For the Avatar's scaling chain, this WIP sandbox might give some idea about it, and as for Ace I'm not sure about the scaling chain he has but I'm pretty sure the multipliers are accounted.

 

[sanicspood]

finally an interesting sonic vs goku match up

 

[Braking]

finally an interesting sonic vs goku match up

its not goku nor sonic stopid But anyways i agree

 

[Braking]

From my jurisdiction all of the races are allowed.

hMm Sayians and namekians only. so i guess you do have to choose a race.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

hMm Sayians and namekians only. so i guess you do have to choose a race.

We don't account that his abilities are only restricted to a different race if you composite it, which is what I'm doing here so whatever.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Following this

 

[Knifeman29]

Music, for fun.

they made this soundtrack for a gatcha game?

 

[Nierre]

Dokkan has a goated OST.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

We don't account that his abilities are only restricted to a different race if you composite it, which is what I'm doing here so whatever.

Also, adding to this, in the actual game, you can combine some abilities from other races to get an entire different moveset from what the Saiyan race usually does in terms of direct versatility.

 

[Braking]

they made this soundtrack for a gatcha game?

from dokkan a gacha game that somehow i fell in love with.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

bump.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Bump.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

What's their AP?

Avatar should be comparable to Modern Sonic after Sonic Forces

Avatar ~ Infinite >>> Pre-Forces Modern Sonic > Generations Modern Sonic > Egg Dragoon >> Modern Sonic > Sonic Battle Sonic >> 7-Emerl = 32 Tenatons

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

What's their AP?

Avatar should be comparable to Modern Sonic after Sonic Forces

Avatar ~ Infinite >>> Pre-Forces Modern Sonic > Generations Modern Sonic > Egg Dragoon >> Modern Sonic > Sonic Battle Sonic >> 7-Emerl = 32 Tenatons

Well, Ace should be somewhat comparable to Slug Saga Base Goku with the KK multipliers assuming the toeiverse scaling chain is being accounted.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

But the question is how high Toeiverse Goku scales in this volition.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Actually, I just figured out that since Ace probably has the ability to perform Goku's 20x kaioken in this key then his AP would be something upscaled from 36 tenatons since the Kaio-ken multiplier makes the FW upscale from King Vegeta's feat.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Also bump.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

The Future Warrior is likely stronger and a more talented martial artist but he may fall victim to getting Voided

 

[Braking]

The Future Warrior is likely stronger and a more talented martial artist but he may fall victim to getting Voided

yea but i dont think the rookie starts with that.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Both are purely self-insert player characters so how do we figure out what they start with?

 

[Braking]

Both are purely self-insert player characters so how do we figure out what they start with?

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

The Future Warrior is likely stronger and a more talented martial artist but he may fall victim to getting Voided

Well, the key being labelled as ''ginyu force saga'' makes quite unsure about what kind of feat to be upscaled period, but I think taking just one in account Ace would pretty much have an record, since none of the force members are actually even comparable to a casual first form Frieza. (That probably needs to be fixed)

Skill is pretty self-explanatory, the Avatar is more proficient at using weapons while Ace is a more skilled martial artist, so take that as you will.

 

[Braking]

Well, the key being labelled as ''ginyu force saga'' makes quite unsure about what kind of feat to be upscaled period, but I think taking just one in account Ace would pretty much have an record, since none of the force members are actually even comparable to a casual first form Frieza. (That probably needs to be fixed)

Skill is pretty self-explanatory, the Avatar is more proficient at using weapons while Ace is a more skilled martial artist, so take that as you will.

but what weapon.


and this is why i dont like custom avatar characters.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

but what weapon.

Wispons and grappling hooks.

and this is why i dont like custom avatar characters.

kekaroooo.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Both are purely self-insert player characters so how do we figure out what they start with?

Pretty much why iconic stances actually exist.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

OC: >>>>>>>>>> 32.12 Tenatons
FW: ... Well, we're using Toeiverse scaling so...

Saiyan Saga Base Goku > King Vegeta = 1.8 Tenatons

Kaioken x4 Saiyan Saga Goku > 7.2 Tenatons

Ginyu > Ginyu Saga Base Goku > 7.2 Tenatons

Kaioken x4 Ginyu Saga Goku > 28.8 Tenatons

Ginyu Saga Future Warrior ~ First Form Freeza/Frieza >>>>>>>> 28.8 Tenatons

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

OC: >>32.12 Tenatons
FW: ... Well, we're using Toeiverse scaling so...

Saiyan Saga Base Goku > King Vegeta = 1.8 Tenatons

Kaioken x4 Saiyan Saga Goku > 7.2 Tenatons

Ginyu > Ginyu Saga Base Goku > 7.2 Tenatons

Kaioken x4 Ginyu Saga Goku > 28.8 Tenatons

Ginyu Saga Future Warrior ~ First Form Freeza/Frieza >>>>>>>> 28.8 Tenatons

Correct me if I'm wrong but Ace can access the same KK multipliers that Goku does, right?

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Ace can access the same KK multipliers that Goku does, right?

I think it can go up to 4x, I don't remember clearly if that'd be available by that point

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Ace can access the same KK multipliers that Goku does, right?

You can actually go Kaioken x20 straight away just by having enough ki, I believe it requires 5 ki to go Kaioken x20

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

You can actually go Kaioken x20 straight away just by having enough ki, I believe it requires 5 ki to go Kaioken x20

Fair enough.