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SOSP Madara's Chakra is the culmination of Chakra from Hashirama, Ten-Tails, and part of the God Tree (which itself is the culmination of Chakra from various Kyuubi Cloaked Shinobi, Samurai, and Naruto himself when he was captured by its roots)

Kaguya's Chakra is all of the above plus the Chakra from all the people under IT
Prime Kaguya, maybe. but this not the case for Revived Kaguya cause she's just 6T Madara + I.T
 
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is that supposed to be "bitching" in any way shape or form
in the first panel from the right:- KCM naruto got punched from 2nd tailed (irrelevant)
the next panel:- Bees capture 5th tailed in his hand
the next panel:- it gets out through hax, not brute force (irrelevant)
the next panel:- KCM Naruto again (irrelevant)
the last two panels:- still Naruto (irrelevant)
Full form Biju (irrelevant)
 
There is a lot of deflection in this thread.

Like, Base Naruto and Base Sasuke scaling talk at the end of Part 1 wasn’t concluded.

Did Naruto not get stronger from his amp during that fight, since Sasuke was dealing relatively the same damage on Amp Naruto with 3 Sharingan as 2 Sharingan against Base Naruto?
Nope, all this irrelevant to the main point I already announced that in post #74.
 
the reason that Madara become a balloon-like is because as mentioned by Sasuke is that he's absorbing a large amount of chakra in a short time which his body can't withstand this rate, he needs alot of time to recover this much chakra as same as Sasuke's when he loses his tomoes, for example you get around 2000 cal or 8360 kj per day thats around 8,360,000 joules which's more than enough to collapse your entire body if took in one shot but its totally ok to take it through 24 hours
So you agree that they don't use all of their chakra at once when they punch. Good. That means that chakra reserves don't determine AP. Once again.
 
The lava with steam on his hands and he said that he needed to regroup via a bunch of Version 2 Jinchuriki didn't affect him.
stop twisting his words he said "this not good I didn't think they can undergo to Biju Transformation in their current state, Naruto we need to retreat and regroup" and the next panel we saw the full Biju, he was clearly talking about full Biju Transformation.
When was lava Hax?
so it's a brute force now?
 
stop twisting his words he said "this not good I didn't think they can undergo to Biju Transformation in their current state, Naruto we need to retreat and regroup" and the next panel we saw the full Biju, he was clearly talking about full Biju Transformation.
Bijuu transformation can consist of Version 2 States, which is a Bijuu's power in a humanoid form.
Inform me where a full Bijuu harmed him prior to that statement.
so it's a brute force now?
You know what attack potency is?
 
So you agree that they don't use all of their chakra at once when they punch. Good. That means that chakra reserves don't determine AP. Once again.
why are you still here lol ? this point got completely destroyed and got its death blow in post #153.
I said "if chakra doesn't boost your AP and the whole difference between Madara and Kaguya is nothing but chakra then that would still put her at Madara's level either way which further destroys the chakra claim"
 
why are you still here lol ? this point got completely destroyed and got its death blow in post #153.
I said "if chakra doesn't boost your AP and the whole difference between Madara and Kaguya is nothing but chakra then that would still put her at Madara's level either way which further destroys the chakra claim"
You know she has a bunch of hax right
 
Bijuu transformation can consist of Version 2 States, which is a Bijuu's power in a humanoid form.
Inform me where a full Bijuu harmed him prior to that statement.
LMAO, he said that when they were literally transforming to Full Biju seeing from the next panel furthermore he said: "I didn't think they can UNDERGO to Biju Transformation in their current state" and since they were already in V2 which implies that he was talking about their only transformation left also known as Full Biju Transformation.
You know what attack potency is?
we are literally talking about physical here, if not then Biju Bomb stomps all of them combined.
 
LMAO, he said that when they were literally transforming to Full Biju seeing from the next panel furthermore he said: "I didn't think they can UNDERGO to Biju Transformation in their current state" and since they were already in V2 which implies that he was talking about their only transformation left also known as Full Biju Transformation.
Undergo:
experience or be subjected to (something, typically something unpleasant, painful, or arduous).
"the baby underwent a life-saving brain operation"

How the hell did you come up with that.
we are literally talking about physical here, if not then Biju Bomb stomps all of them combined.
I talked about lava and you brought up brute strength, are you okay?
 
Undergo:
experience or be subjected to (something, typically something unpleasant, painful, or arduous).
"the baby underwent a life-saving brain operation"

How the hell did you come up with that.
My Ass, that what I was saying, he was saying that he didn't think they can be subjected to that Biju transformation and again since they were already in V2 which implies that he was talking about their only transformation left also known as Full Biju Transformation, let alone that the next panel cleary tell us about what he saying.
I talked about lava and you brought up brute strength, are you okay?
the main point was about physical either way Biju Dama solos.
 
You didn't destroy anything. With every post you make you prove that chakra levels don't determine AP.
how much you gonna make me lose my brain cells ?? as I ******* said a single post ago it doesn't matter either way Madara will still scale to Kaguya.
 
Kaguya blitzed 1000 clones while Madara's limbo clones who are = to Madara couldn't beat 1.

And you think they're RELATIVE????
 
Madara is a fodder to Kaguya. Madaras Limbo clones struggled against Narutos 4 shadow clones. Meanwhile Kaguya was casualy destroying thousands of them.
Kaguya blitzed 1000 clones while Madara's limbo clones who are = to Madara couldn't beat 1.

And you think they're RELATIVE????
you both are just in denial, I hope a good debater come here :(
anyways you both seemed to forget the whole point of the thread that 9T Madara is the only one scale to Kaguya, not 6T Madara neither Dual-Rinnegan Madara scale to her in any way.
 
Ain't that Madara get stabbed by Zetsu

Who got manhandled by Naruto

Who matched Kaguya
 
One Rinnegan Madara (Post Tree Absorption) = Dual Rinnegan Madara = Dual Rinnegan + Rinne-Sharingan Madara in amount of Chakra

The only difference is the third eye is closed, Madara still contains the same of amount of Chakra.
 
Wait a second.

Are you giving a key

To a man with no feats?????
LMAO, he already has a key my ass.

Attack Potency: At least Multi-Continent level (Should be far stronger than Obito Uchiha as the Juubi Jinchuuriki), likely far higher (Was stated to be trying to get close to Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki's power) | Moon level+ (Faced off against Naruto with Six Paths chakra. His Limbo could fight on par with Naruto's shadow clones. At least comparable to Sasuke and Naruto.)

Key: Six Paths Sage Madara | Six Paths Sage Madara (Rinne-Sharingan)

surprisingly, I'm still wasting my time on you. how poor I am? 😞
 
A lot of people see that shinobi get amps after absorbing chakra so they asume that chakra levels = AP. But absorbed chakra only temporarily boosts your stats until its depleted, its not a permanent AP boost nor does it increase your total chakra pool. Its just a temporary amp. Like Kakashi geting six paths chakra from Obito for example.
 
A lot of people see that shinobi get amps after absorbing chakra so they asume that chakra levels = AP. But absorbed chakra only temporarily boosts your stats until its depleted, its not a permanent AP boost nor does it increase your total chakra pool. Its just a temporary amp. Like Kakashi geting six paths chakra from Obito for example.
irrelevant, it doesn't affect my point even in the slightest as I said in post #153 and #177 etc.
 
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this thread has to come to an end, it got more than 2K views and around 200 posts, I'm just wasting my time in repeating my own words, again and again, so please, look up the 200 previous posts get all my arguments that I have made and all the anti-arguments that have been made against the original post, take notes and judge by yourself if did they actually debunked my claims or not, if yes, then please summary those posts in one short essay so I can read it, if not please apply the upgrade that I asked, please be fair here and look up the only posts that's related to the main argument.

Also, I would like to say that I won't further be replying to any other member except you or any other moderator.
 
Absorbed chakra only temporarily boosts your stats until its depleted, its not a permanent AP boost nor does it increase your total chakra pool. Its just a temporary amp. Like Kakashi geting six paths chakra from Obito for example.
A lot of people see that shinobi get amps after absorbing chakra so they asume that chakra levels = AP.
So you agree Chakra levels = AP, from your example of using “temporary“ boosts?
 
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