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Since Rinnesharingan Madara is featless and his key is built on statements that have somehow misinterpreted wrong which I am myself always misinterpreted like any others but while I was debating earlier that day I realised something that probably changes your entire view on Madara's Scale.
First of all, we know that If Sasuke overuses the power of his Rinnegan, his ocular power will temporarily diminish, causing the tomoe in his Rinnegan to vanish until his full power returns.
as seen here Sasuke comes out of a portal using his Rinnegan, which causes his eye to go into cooldown and lose the tomoe temporarily later he gets those tomoes back after recovering his chakra back:-
Now into the main point...
Madara after activating the Rinne Sharingan he got 9 tomoes as seen here:-
and here:-
Later he used a high-chakra consuming jutsus like the Infinite Tsukuyomi and God: Nativity of a World of Trees those techniques heavily drain Madara's chakra however after Madara landing we saw that he only has 6 tomoes left as seen here:-
that particular weakend Madara is the only one Naruto and Sasuke saw which implies that their statements about Rinne Sharingan Madara only applies to 6T Madara's not 9T Madara since they never saw him in the first place.
and those statements are :-
1) Kaguya is a league above Rinnesharingan Madara
2) Kaguya is a juubi amp stronger than Rinnesharingan Madara.
but in fact, it just means she's only stronger than 6T Madara (not saying that she's weaker than 9T but the statement only talks about 6T)
so I came up with two methods to get the values of how strong Rinne Sharingan Madara really is?
so I tried my best trying to quantify the tomoe's boost and I figured that its 1.5x per minimum simply by dividing 9 by 6 (i know its assumption but a 1.5 boost seems responsible and makes sense to me)
now back to when Madara got the juubi I will assume he's at least juubi level at that time which makes a juubi amp 2x his powers later he got a God Tree amp, Double Rinnegan amp and 6T Rinnesharingan amp, if all those amps combined boosts Madara only 1.3x his powers (which's kinda ridiculous), that would make 6T to 9T amp enough to boosts his level to Kaguya's, that if you only assumed that all the boosts he got are only 1.3x which both me and you know that this argument can be made or even way higher which will make 9T Madara somehow stronger than Kaguya herself.
In Conclusion:-
Kaguya >= 6T Madara + Juubi
One Eyed Pre-Shinju Madara >= Juubi
Therefore Juubi amp is 2x this Madara
If God Tree amp, Double Rinnegan amp and 6T Rinnesharingan amp is 1.3x this Madara
Juubi amp would be 1.5x 6T Madara
and since 9T > 6T by at least 1.5x by using basic maths.
that would be enough for 9T Madara to be Kaguya Level
and that's probably a huge downplay to Madara's Favor but I'm just trying to downplay as possible so we can get the very minimum of Madara's Strength.
You know what forget all what I said about that math assumption shit, who like maths anyways ??
let's get straight to the feats and only feats no assumption no bullshit.
so as I proved above, Madara had only 6 tomoes when he lands later when Black Zetsu stabs him we can see that he still got 6 tomoes as seen here:-
going on we can see Madara here still got 6 tomoes even after absorbing a tremendous amount of chakra as Sasuke stated:-
and at the very least time we saw Madara just right before he turns into Kaguya we saw that he got his 9 tomoes back:-
the next time we saw Madara he already turned into Kaguya and we clearly see that she just got 9 tomoes worth of chakra:-
which implies that at very least Madara >= Kaguya if not way higher since Kaguya only have the baseline 9T level while Madara's level is unknown but he's also 9T level.
basically, if you didn't understand all what I said, the only situation the tomoes decrease in is when the user uses too much chakra but using normal amounts would do nothing and since Kaguya is only baseline 9T level (she just turned from 6T at the very end of transformation) while Madara's level is unknown but he's 9T level that actually put him per minimum at Kaguya level and you can even assume that he's much much stronger.
and even tho by further thinking the chakra that Kaguya got is the chakra that Madara consumed just before it, Kaguya absorbed the Infinite Tsukuyomi chakra -that Madara just used- out of the tree -that Madara just summoned- and by basic logic and as Emilie du Châtelet said once before in his law of energy conservation "energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another" all what happens is just Madara released energy to the planet with his techniques and later Kaguya got it back while transforming from Madara and the reason that Madara become a balloon-like is because as mentioned by Sasuke is that he's absorbing a large amount of chakra in a short time which his body can't withstand this rate, he needs alot of time to recover this much chakra as same as Sasuke's when he loses his tomoes, for example you use around 2000 cal or 8360 kj per day thats around 8,360,000 joules which's more than enough to collapse your entire body if took in one shot , it makes perfect sense now.
Look even if you disagree with all what I said for whatever reason, and Madara didn't receive any upgrades, at the very least you learned something new as same as myself tho I was reading this chapter again and again throughout all those years and I realised that just now.
First of all, we know that If Sasuke overuses the power of his Rinnegan, his ocular power will temporarily diminish, causing the tomoe in his Rinnegan to vanish until his full power returns.
as seen here Sasuke comes out of a portal using his Rinnegan, which causes his eye to go into cooldown and lose the tomoe temporarily later he gets those tomoes back after recovering his chakra back:-
Now into the main point...
Madara after activating the Rinne Sharingan he got 9 tomoes as seen here:-
and here:-
Later he used a high-chakra consuming jutsus like the Infinite Tsukuyomi and God: Nativity of a World of Trees those techniques heavily drain Madara's chakra however after Madara landing we saw that he only has 6 tomoes left as seen here:-
that particular weakend Madara is the only one Naruto and Sasuke saw which implies that their statements about Rinne Sharingan Madara only applies to 6T Madara's not 9T Madara since they never saw him in the first place.
and those statements are :-
1) Kaguya is a league above Rinnesharingan Madara
2) Kaguya is a juubi amp stronger than Rinnesharingan Madara.
but in fact, it just means she's only stronger than 6T Madara (not saying that she's weaker than 9T but the statement only talks about 6T)
so I came up with two methods to get the values of how strong Rinne Sharingan Madara really is?
- MATHS METHOD
so I tried my best trying to quantify the tomoe's boost and I figured that its 1.5x per minimum simply by dividing 9 by 6 (i know its assumption but a 1.5 boost seems responsible and makes sense to me)
now back to when Madara got the juubi I will assume he's at least juubi level at that time which makes a juubi amp 2x his powers later he got a God Tree amp, Double Rinnegan amp and 6T Rinnesharingan amp, if all those amps combined boosts Madara only 1.3x his powers (which's kinda ridiculous), that would make 6T to 9T amp enough to boosts his level to Kaguya's, that if you only assumed that all the boosts he got are only 1.3x which both me and you know that this argument can be made or even way higher which will make 9T Madara somehow stronger than Kaguya herself.
In Conclusion:-
Kaguya >= 6T Madara + Juubi
One Eyed Pre-Shinju Madara >= Juubi
Therefore Juubi amp is 2x this Madara
If God Tree amp, Double Rinnegan amp and 6T Rinnesharingan amp is 1.3x this Madara
Juubi amp would be 1.5x 6T Madara
and since 9T > 6T by at least 1.5x by using basic maths.
that would be enough for 9T Madara to be Kaguya Level
and that's probably a huge downplay to Madara's Favor but I'm just trying to downplay as possible so we can get the very minimum of Madara's Strength.
- BASIC LOGIC METHOD
You know what forget all what I said about that math assumption shit, who like maths anyways ??
let's get straight to the feats and only feats no assumption no bullshit.
so as I proved above, Madara had only 6 tomoes when he lands later when Black Zetsu stabs him we can see that he still got 6 tomoes as seen here:-
going on we can see Madara here still got 6 tomoes even after absorbing a tremendous amount of chakra as Sasuke stated:-
and at the very least time we saw Madara just right before he turns into Kaguya we saw that he got his 9 tomoes back:-
the next time we saw Madara he already turned into Kaguya and we clearly see that she just got 9 tomoes worth of chakra:-
which implies that at very least Madara >= Kaguya if not way higher since Kaguya only have the baseline 9T level while Madara's level is unknown but he's also 9T level.
basically, if you didn't understand all what I said, the only situation the tomoes decrease in is when the user uses too much chakra but using normal amounts would do nothing and since Kaguya is only baseline 9T level (she just turned from 6T at the very end of transformation) while Madara's level is unknown but he's 9T level that actually put him per minimum at Kaguya level and you can even assume that he's much much stronger.
and even tho by further thinking the chakra that Kaguya got is the chakra that Madara consumed just before it, Kaguya absorbed the Infinite Tsukuyomi chakra -that Madara just used- out of the tree -that Madara just summoned- and by basic logic and as Emilie du Châtelet said once before in his law of energy conservation "energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another" all what happens is just Madara released energy to the planet with his techniques and later Kaguya got it back while transforming from Madara and the reason that Madara become a balloon-like is because as mentioned by Sasuke is that he's absorbing a large amount of chakra in a short time which his body can't withstand this rate, he needs alot of time to recover this much chakra as same as Sasuke's when he loses his tomoes, for example you use around 2000 cal or 8360 kj per day thats around 8,360,000 joules which's more than enough to collapse your entire body if took in one shot , it makes perfect sense now.
Look even if you disagree with all what I said for whatever reason, and Madara didn't receive any upgrades, at the very least you learned something new as same as myself tho I was reading this chapter again and again throughout all those years and I realised that just now.
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