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One Piece Chapter 997: "Flames" (Official Release)

Eminiteable said:
And Kaido having more abilities, I love it. What exactly do we consider cloud manipulation anyways? Also this is a massive, massive lifting strength feat for Kaido. And Kaido moving the battlefield to The flower capital 😱 I wonder if a new legend will be created.
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Definitely some sort of weather manipulation. Don't think it's telekinesis though since he is actually using a physical something to affect the island.

I'd imagine we could also get some sort of energy feat from just what it would take to break the island off it's foundations? Idk, not calc group.
 
Ittoryu being 1/3 of Zoro's AP never really makes sens, Lol. Poor Apoo who was caught off guard.

Btw, Queen was afraid of Zoro in this chapter twice. I'm starting to think that those moments are just part of his personality.
 
Another great chapter! I really enjoyed all of Zoro's moments, and that last panel of Onigashima was amazing! Kaido really keeps impressing me with his abilities.

I'm glad Sanji didn't get himself into a Kalifa situation (yet) and genuinely thought he was trying to save a woman from sexual harassment, but it's still pretty sad that he fell into that trap. Hope Oda sends Robin to save him so she can start things with Black Maria. That is once her and her group are finally able to move away from that floor since Chopper (and I guess Marco's going to help him due to his flames) has to administer the antidote to everyone who got infected. It also looks like Chopper won't be getting some kind of power-up from his infection after all, which is a shame since he's in need of one like all of the Grand Line Straw Hats are.

Btw, after this chapter how would you all rank the Supernovas strength-wise (besides Luffy being the strongest)?
 
Nah. He just has problems when his pre-conceived notions are shattered. Nobody is making it to Kaido's elite circle by being a coward. He just gets shocked easily.

Which to be fair, "easily" is subjective here. I mean how calm would anyone be if a ******* Yonko dropped themselves off on their prison. Or if one of your strongest dudes was cut down effortlessly and your whole scheme undermined by someone with a bounty 3 times lower than yours.
 
Zoro most likely outclasses Tobi Roppo members. He one-shot Apoo who was physically keeping pace with hybrid zoan form Drake. And in fact, Drake seemed to be stunned by the feat.
 
RoronoaxRobin said:
Btw, after this chapter how would you all rank the Supernovas strength-wise (besides Luffy being the strongest)?
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Not including Luffy & just basing it strength-wise (i.e law and bonney aren't getting ranked higher than their stats due to hax). currently it's unknown which Sweet commander it was that Kid injured (and the circumstances are unknown), both technically attacked Apoo "while his guard was down" (although I'd argue Apoo's guard was technically up against Zoro) but while Zoro one-shot, Kid didn't.

1. Zoro
2. Kid
3/4. Drake/Apoo
5. Killer
6. Urogue
7. Law
8. Hawkins
9. Capone
10. Bonney
 
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I don't think that all Tobi roppos are near to each other, in fact I think that Who's Who Is possibly even stronger than Jack.
But I agree about Zoro being well above characters like Ulti and Page One, this was pretty clear, Sanji with his suit played against Page One.
 
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Really loved this moment
 
Zoro has been shown to be especially close to Chopper. Going all the way back to Alabasta. They have a very sweet elder bro-little bro relationship. It's noticeable because Zoro is typically written as an extremely reserved character - so even though he deeply cares about his friends - it is rarely expressed clearly.

Also, Robin immediately figuring out what had him all riled up was pretty cool
 
RoyGundam said:
Also, Robin immediately figuring out what had him all riled up was pretty cool
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Robin understands Zoro pretty well. When she heard about his plan to push back Doflamingo's Birdcage to stop it, unlike some of the others she wasn't surprised at all he thought up such a solution and said it was just like him.
 
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All the crew have a good relationship with one another. It's what makes them the gang. The compadres. The bros...and the girl bros.
 
That sounds good.
I hope it turns out to be 6-C because I believe that's the most consistent tier for the top tiers atm personally.

(By "top tiers" I mean people on Kaido and Whitebeard's level for example; Yonko level for lack of a better term)
 
Man, this is was so far one of the top 3 best chapters in the war, probably only behind the Sunacchi and the one which focused in the Scabbards vs Kaido (993 iirc) imo.

Now, scaling... If Zoro is 7A+, it is safe to say Kid is as well, right? He also did some really massive damage to Apoo (him getting up would be a stamina feat). But i have a problem with that, a small one, what was the feat that put Luffy's durability in 7A+ at base?

Edit: Actually, Nami vs Ulti was my favorite scene, but that chapter didn't have anything else, while this one does not have anything in that level, but is good overall.
 
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XDragnoir said:
Man, this is was so far one of the top 3 best chapters in the war, probably only behind the Sunacchi and the one which focused in the Scabbards vs Kaido (993 iirc) imo.

Now, scaling... If Zoro is 7A+, it is safe to say Kid is as well, right? He also did some really massive damage to Apoo (him getting up would be a stamina feat). But i have a problem with that, a small one, what was the feat that put Luffy's durability in 7A+ at base?
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The fact that Katakuri wailed on him for 11 hours with Luffy being in base for the majority of the time, that's the feat.

Also, Apoo getting up is a stamina feat? I agree Kid should scale due to harming Apoo but I don't understand what you're implying here by "he got up due to a stamina feat".
 
Apoo didn't tank the attack, what he did was get up after being damaged, so it wouldn't make sense to not scale Kid to 7A+ just because Apoo was able to keep fighting.

Isn't Katakuri H7A, tho?
 
Oh, I mean even if Kid's attack was only just as strong as Apoo's he would have still scaled to 7-A+, but yes it's clear Kid harmed Apoo decently and should scale to Apoo.

Not sure about the High 7-A, if that's more accurate I'm all for it; higher kid and Zoro stats.
 
Ok, I think I have a way to calc Kaido lifting Onigashima, but it may be a rough calc and I can't promise it'll be a great result
 
Eminiteable said:
Unlike with Fuji's meteors it's not a result of what he's summoning, rather this is more alike to Fuji's rubble lift feat which applies to his AP & LS
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@Purgy It should do if the Fujitora one does, if not I guess at the very least the act of breaking the island away would result in an AP value.
 
Also, Kaido just got a new parallel to Shiki, both can cause islands to float, that just makes me think the guy talking with Crocus was Shiki and he is somewhat connected to Wano due to the hat he was using.
 
I'm not sure, can you prove he can apply that "energy" to his regular attacks? What energy are we even speaking of here? If it was like Dragon Ball and they're using their ki to lift it then maybe since they can amp their stats with ki, but with One Piece, I'm not really sure how that works.
 
Eminiteable said:
Not sure about the High 7-A, if that's more accurate I'm all for it; higher kid and Zoro stats.
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Well, i think i disagree with Luffy even having 7A+ durability to begin with, so i think a thread about that will need to be done. It basically is like saying Apoo > Katakuri.
 
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