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Fairy Tail God Tier AP Revision

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Now that the first Fairy Tail movie is has been accepted to be canon lets discuss the AP to the Fairy tail God tiers and whether or not they scale to the Phoenix's Feat calculated here: DemonGodMitchAubin's Calc.

Here is the link to the old other thread where we went over whether the Movie was Canon and started to discuss whether the God Tiers scaled to the Phoenix's Feat: Old Thread
 
It is said that the Phoenix rivals Zeref in terms of Power, so I believe that we should either scale to Base Zeref or Fairy Heart Zeref and Everyone Stronger than them
 
If this scaling gets excepted, that means August and Irene would be the only people in the verse with Low 6-B Key's, that's the only sad part of this potential upgrade
 
Potential Scaling Tiers

High 6-A (6.2 Exatons): Base Zeref, DF and Igneel's Flame Natsu, Phoenix, Human Acnologia

At least High 6-A (At least 6.2 Exatons): Fairy Heart Zeref, Savage Dragon Fire Natsu, Dragon Acnologia, Dragon Gods, Ignia's Fire Natsu, Igneel

At least High 6-A (At least 12.4 Exatons): Human Acnologia (SBT), Seven Flames Natsu

At least High 6-A, likely higher (At least 12.4 Exatons, likely higher): Dragon Acnologia (SBT)
 
Why are only SF Natsu and Human Acno (SBT) the only one's who would scale to 12.4 Exatons? (Besides Dragon Acno (SBT)

I thought you said only Dragon Acno SBT would be 12.4 Exatons?
 
Human Acnologia also benefits from the 2X multiplier of absorbing the SBT, I forgot about that when I was talking to you
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Potential Scaling Tiers
High 6-A (6.2 Exatons): Base Zeref, DF and Igneel's Flame Natsu, Phoenix, Human Acnologia

At least High 6-A (At least 6.2 Exatons): Fairy Heart Zeref, Savage Dragon Fire Natsu, Dragon Acnologia, Dragon Gods, Ignia's Fire Natsu, Igneel

At least High 6-A (At least 12.4 Exatons): Human Acnologia (SBT), Seven Flames Natsu

At least High 6-A, likely higher (At least 12.4 Exatons, likely higher): Dragon Acnologia (SBT)
Why should Ignias power Natsu be scaled to dragon gods when he said himself that he cannot defeat half power Mercphobia alone
 
I agree with the feat scaling to base Zeref and up specifically. FH Zeref didn't exist at the time so its impossible for the Council to refer to that key. Should FH Zeref and co not scale to double the calc?

@Neponen

Yes Natsu said that but when you look at the fight, the others coupdn't do anything and Natsu did everything.
 
We've established that Mercphobia was just holding back, he wasn't exactly restricted to half power, what Ignia said is that he hasn't even used half his power yet, meaning he was holding back, when he was getting pushed back by Natsu he started using his full power, and while Natsu said that he couldn't win on his own, he could overpower him and warrants a comparable tier
 
This should definitely scale to Base Zeref, to assume they we're referring to FH Zeref would be illogical and idiotic since he didn't exist at the time of the movie.
 
If the movie is canon then I guess this is fine to use. I haven't watched it so I can't give a detailed argument.
 
If this movie has been accepted as canon, then I agree.

Btw, shouldn't the Keys of the Starry Sky arc be considered canon? The Church hunting down Celestial Spirit mages was mentioned on the GMG and Mashima was involved on it.
 
Ionliosite said:
If this movie has been accepted as canon, then I agree.

Btw, shouldn't the Keys of the Starry Sky arc be considered canon? The Church hunting down Celestial Spirit mages was mentioned on the GMG and Mashima was involved on it.
Not the thread bro. Lucky this even went through
 
I share the same thoughts as Calaca. So it seems fine to use.
 
I know, nobody can except strong Fairy Tail Characters, I expect a debunk thread within 24 Hours
 
I think we can close this now

It's weird to think Natsu scales above Saitama right now

Can't wait for the downgrade thread
 
People will always downplay and try to downgrade Fairy Tail

Although they can't really dispute this scaling, when the Japanese and English dubs both literally state that the Phoenix's Power, which can destroy the world is equal to Zeref's Power
 
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