Zeref's Hax

[ShadowSoul123]

So I've seen people state that Zeref "time travelled" with Neo Eclipse.

This is notthe case.

Zeref states he isn't travelling back in time, he's merely resetting it.

http://www3.mangafreak.net/Read1_Fairy_Tail_534_10

^Once he passes through the door the world crumbles, nothng mentions Time-Travel or even implies it for that matter.

Zeref is Universal+ via Neo Eclipse

 

[The_Everlasting]

Resetting time isn't Low 2-C unless you do it to the beginning of the universe or something.

 

[ShadowSoul123]

@Everlasting

Resetting part of a space-time continuum should account to High Universe Level

 

[The_Everlasting]

No, it's just hax. Not even hax that has a tier. Just hax.

 

[ShadowSoul123]

@Everlasting

Then note it. Say "High Universe Level via hax"

 

[The_Everlasting]

Not even hax that has a tier.

My response. Read it.

 

[ShadowSoul123]

@Everlasting

You say "Large Country Level" via hax for Irene, therefore you should say the same to zeref

 

[The_Everlasting]

How even are those two comparable?

 

[ShadowSoul123]

@Everlasting

They are both attacks done by hax which do not equate to AP. Zeref is High Universal via that one attack so it should be noted

 

[The_Everlasting]

That's not even... I don't...

Just because two entirely different and unrelated attacks are hax doesn't mean we can assign tiers to both of them.

Reversing time is not a High Universal feat.

 

[LordGinSama]

Hasn't every admin denied this upgrade? You seem hellbent on a Universal Zeref

 

[DankSinatr]

Again, doesn't this require a specific event only liable in the FT universe? The rift in time?

 

[Reppuzan]

As The Everlasting stated, it is nonsensical for Zeref to reset the timeline when he states that he needs his memories of the current timeline in order to fix things in the past, since he mentions becoming a child and human again in order to save Natsu and fix his own mistakes. Heck, he says that on the very next page.

He's just performing Time Travel paradoxes. Nothing less, nothing more.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Yeah I agree with Rep and Ever here. Not all hax equalizes to AP since most of them technically negates durability. Unless if it destroys only a particular thing.

 

[ShadowSoul123]

@Reppuzan

Zeref outright denies he is travelling in time.

Rather he is resetting it, by destroying the current world

 

[Reppuzan]

@Shadow

You've got a scan of this?

 

[Dark649]

That thing is not important to add because it is useless for combat purposes and Zeref was easily dealt with.

 

[LazyHunter]

Yeah, for all his talk of "resetting the timeline", the practical effects is that he gets to live his life again but keeping his future memories. The timeline is the same as before until he is born and can start changing things with his regular actions, thus "destroying" the present since it'd never happen. You know, like a common time travel story. That's not Universal+ or High Universe level at all, the only thing he achieves is transferring his memories to past Zeref to change the past. This would be like giving Tier 2 to characters who stop time or can freely time travel.

 

[Davidsteel1]

That thing is not important to add because it is useless for combat purposes and Zeref was easily dealt with.

I've seen it mentioned quite a few times that one of the purposes of this site is indexing, so that isn't a reason not to analyse this. And besides there are a ton of characters who have abilities that aren't directly suitable for combat but are noted anyway