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What does his current value scale to, and how many profiles are affected by it?
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Wandenreich lift.... Here we go again (Bleach)
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5.265368068833711 Exatons, Multi Continental
affects ichigo, aizen, and orihime's shields
affects ichigo, aizen, and orihime's shields
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Also please refrain from any hostility or rude behavior towards Damage. Even you don't agree with him, and God knows I don't don't always agree with him myself, that's absolutely no reason to be hostile or rude towards him. Simply politely disagree and make the best argument you can to counter him.
The fact of the matter is that he's about the only staff member who actually gives enough of a damn to bother participating in these HST threads consistently, and without him the HST would likely be in a state of limbo due to most staff avoiding them like the plague. He works very hard, very consistently, so love him or hate him, he deserves more respect and appreciation imo.
The fact of the matter is that he's about the only staff member who actually gives enough of a damn to bother participating in these HST threads consistently, and without him the HST would likely be in a state of limbo due to most staff avoiding them like the plague. He works very hard, very consistently, so love him or hate him, he deserves more respect and appreciation imo.
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Is there any issue with the upgrade other than wanting higher results or is it fine to apply?
Yhwach
Yhwach (ユーハバッハ, Yūhabahha?) is the Father of the Quincy, the monarch of the Wandenreich, and the son of the Soul King, known by the designation "A" - The Almighty. As a baby, Yhwach was incapable of sight, speech, or even the slightest movement, but never feared or despaired, as he knew he would...
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Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip)
Ichigo Kurosaki (黒くろ崎さき 一いち護ご, Kurosaki Ichigo?) is the son of Masaki Kurosaki and Isshin Kurosaki, a Quincy with the powers of a Shinigami. Years after the death of his mother, Ichigo uses his innate spiritual awareness to help local ghosts, and unlocks his potential as a Shinigami when Rukia...
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Sosuke Aizen
Sōsuke Aizen (藍あい染ぜん 惣そう右す介け, Aizen Sōsuke?) is the former captain of the 5th Division in the Gotei 13. He later leaves Soul Society with his followers, Gin Ichimaru and Kaname Tōsen. His lieutenant was Momo Hinamori. He formerly served as the lieutenant of the 5th Division under Shinji Hirako...
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Orihime Inoue
Orihime Inoue (井上 織姫, Inoue Orihime) is a Human living in Karakura Town. She is a student at Karakura High School, where she is in the same class as Ichigo Kurosaki and her best friend, Tatsuki Arisawa. At some point during the Epilogue, she and Ichigo fell in love and eventually started a...
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These profiles correct?
Most likely you would need to ask someone with sufficient privileges to unlock the profiles.
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i think damage can unlock when he's on
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From what I'm seeing, they have the correct tiers on their profiles, it's just that Yhwach needs the calculation applied on his.
Whoever unlocks them needs only Yhwach's unlocked, then it'll be alright.
Whoever unlocks them needs only Yhwach's unlocked, then it'll be alright.
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aight
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That’s what I’ve been saying lol, just throw this on Yhwach’s page and call it a day
A little pointless as **** but hey, more calcs are cool
A little pointless as **** but hey, more calcs are cool
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1. Size and mass are assumed
2. Distance is assumed
3. Timeframe is assumed
Why are we using this calc at all?
2. Distance is assumed
3. Timeframe is assumed
Why are we using this calc at all?
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distance is accepted from damage's calc
mass and size are from the seiretei calc which is also accepted.
Damage accepted 30 seconds, unless you want to go back to 10 seconds, which was previously accepted
mass and size are from the seiretei calc which is also accepted.
Damage accepted 30 seconds, unless you want to go back to 10 seconds, which was previously accepted
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everything on the calc has is from accepted material
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Size is calced
Distance is calced
Timeframe is assumed yes, not like there aren't hundreds of calcs here that do the same thing.
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Why is KE being used over PE?
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because that is what was originally discussed accepted by damage. heck all previous accepted versions of this used ke
such as this one:
User blog:TataHakai/Bleach: Yhwach does some heavy lifting | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
such as this one:
User blog:TataHakai/Bleach: Yhwach does some heavy lifting | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
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That doesn't make this calc any better. You're saying that those values are "calced" as if those calcs themselves are not just assumptions.
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Because KE gives higher values.
The most common refutation I've seen on this thread is "But that would lower the results by thousands of times!"
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i mean your distance calc is accepted rn
I dont think we want to open the size can of worms. that crt was rejected, and our seireitei size is accepted.
you told me 30 seconds was usuable
I dont think we want to open the size can of worms. that crt was rejected, and our seireitei size is accepted.
you told me 30 seconds was usuable
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He lifted it at a certain speed, therefore KE because he’s lifting the mass
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Well using KE adds one more variable that needs to be assumed, therefore the PE assumes less variables and is also primarily used for lifting large objects, so I don’t really get why KE makes more sense for this feat
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Fact of the matter is that those calcs exist and are valid, hell one of them is literally your calc, if you have an issue with those, get them removed.
These aren't just random shoot in the dark assumptions, there are reasons the distance and size are what they are.
As for your little assumption thing, you're calcing fictional feats... Assumptions are almost always going to exist.
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Also wanted to make a statement.
Declining PE because the results are too low is actually hilarious.
KE = PE, PE takes much less assumptions and uses what is given.
No I'm not insinuating that you use PE, I'm just saying that even though PE is extremely unfortunate (my favorite verses get bodied because PE), if it's more accurate, then that should be what's primarily used.
Yall should wait for the anime before you assume timeframes.
Declining PE because the results are too low is actually hilarious.
KE = PE, PE takes much less assumptions and uses what is given.
No I'm not insinuating that you use PE, I'm just saying that even though PE is extremely unfortunate (my favorite verses get bodied because PE), if it's more accurate, then that should be what's primarily used.
Yall should wait for the anime before you assume timeframes.
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Nobody is saying PE can't be used because it gives low results, rather I said there's no reason to lower the result when KE is just as applicable, calc is already being lowballed quite badly keep in mind.
If PE is actually more valid than KE then fine, I'm not seeing why it's anymore valid than KE however.
What would be the point of assuming a timeframe if we had the anime to work with? The anime won't get to that point of the manga for maybe half a decade.
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i mean, there is a way to measure the time frame
the feat starts after yukio's train car begins rising from the surface area below the soul palace, back to the soul palace. It finishes when the train car reaches it destination. You could compare it to irl bullet trains
the feat starts after yukio's train car begins rising from the surface area below the soul palace, back to the soul palace. It finishes when the train car reaches it destination. You could compare it to irl bullet trains
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PE takes less assumptions.
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The assumptions aren't even that bad though
As was said, distance and size are based on calcs, one of which Damage created.
Time is the only "real" assumption, and it's not even anything major since we know the feat happened in a relatively short amount of time.
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im usually reserved when it comes to these things. My main exception was the last crt (which i have apologized for). that said. All factors were agreed upon. We reduced the volume. 30 seconds was chosen over ten, which was the previously chosen timeframe. feat occurs over 10 pages or less in a short timeframe, and we assume similar speeds for manga feats all the time.
then last second there is a rush for pe, which hasnt been the case for this feat ever, across several recalcs for the last few years.
then last second there is a rush for pe, which hasnt been the case for this feat ever, across several recalcs for the last few years.
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"Not that bad" ≠ "An assumption".
Adding that little assumption multiplies the results by thousands of values.
No, we just choose PE if it's more valid.
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as for the wait for the anime, two issues:
years away for this scene
this has been an excuse for years already
years away for this scene
this has been an excuse for years already
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No, I am saying that PE is more valid than KE here, that's all
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For what reason though? Because it assumes a timeframe when we know it happened quite quickly?
If PE always assumes less variables, then it should always be chosen over KE for the sake of accuracy, calcs always have a degree of assumptions.
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Yhwach Wandenreich - Imgur
this was the folder used for the og timeframe. would recommend looking at all of it
this was the folder used for the og timeframe. would recommend looking at all of it
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Combine that with Shinji being visibly shocked and refusing to believe how quick the feat happened.
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We do tend to do that anyway. The Chibaku Tensei from naruto as an example use Potential Energy.
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I'm not opposed to using KE, I would just prefer to wait for the Anime Timeframe
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Are you agreeing with my point about scrapping KE calcs entirely since they assume less than a PE one? If pure accuracy is what we're going for here, then why not.
As far as what I've seen from 2 calc members and a thread mod in this thread, PE has every advantage over KE.
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I mean, sure, but again, that's a good few years away at least, it's not feasible to wait that long.
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"Are you agreeing with my point about scrapping KE calcs entirely"
What are you talking about? I mainly use PE for lifting of objects, but for stuff like Meteors or Throwing something horizontally, I use KE
What are you talking about? I mainly use PE for lifting of objects, but for stuff like Meteors or Throwing something horizontally, I use KE
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