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SnyderVerse High 6-A to 5-B

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Ozcantabak said:
Can we add at least to Supermans likely Planet level value because he one shotted Cyborg who was unharmed by energy that broke the boxes defenses ?
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I agree to this. he one tapped cyborg and one tapped Wonder Woman when he got "serious" while not even being in his right mind. As if that wasn't bad enough, he went to go sun bathe before the final battle in the black suit, with black naturally absorbing light. In all honesty the "likely" shouldn't even be there seeing as there was visible damage on the boxes. the fact that he was able to cut Steppwolf's horn off proves he could have probably one shot him too.
 
Snyder also said this about the black suit:
It comes from Death of Superman of course. But I'm also into this Robert Bly book The Red, White, and Black. The white of naivety, the red of anger, and the black of humanity. I just felt like the black suit is really symbolic of that as well. But also, frankly, I flew him straight up to the sun to charge him up. I like the black suit as a practical thing of there needing to be a way for Superman to charge up quickly and be stronger than he was. So it works in a theoretical and symbolic way.
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Which i think implies he wasn't even at full strength when he fought the jl.
Source
 
Also, can I suggest a varies rating for Supes?

As per Snyder he’s at his weakest at night due to less solar radiation charging him up
 
Hellbeast said:
Also, can I suggest a varies rating for Supes?

As per Snyder he’s at his weakest at night due to less solar radiation charging him up
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Even at his “weakest” he still scales above Wonder Woman who has a likely planet level rating. I don’t think this is necessary
 
sageof8paths said:
Even at his “weakest” he still scales above Wonder Woman who has a likely planet level rating. I don’t think this is necessary
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Idk about that one tbh
She performs better against Doomsdsy then he does in the BVS night fight
 
Hellbeast said:
Idk about that one tbh
She performs better against Doomsdsy then he does in the BVS night fight
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no she doesn't. she gets knocked around more (5) times than supes (4). almost all of her hits a because doomsday was focused on supes, and we literally hear her screaming in pain when doomsday knocks her. there's literally like 2-3 minute period where she is absolutely no where to be seen leaving batman and supes to battle doomsday by himself where he stalemates doomsdays heat vision before he eventually adapts. supes then goes to find Lois leaving doomsday to attack batman. it is heavily implied she got knocked out during this period

as if that wasn't bad enough, Wonder Woman literally says "I've never seen a being this powerful, maybe one", obviously referring to superman directly after getting mid-diffed by Steppenwolf, meaning she thought superman was stronger than her. official dc multiverse toys say superman was the most powerful hero before he died.

again, I don't think the "varies' rating is necessary
 
sageof8paths said:
no she doesn't. she gets knocked around more (5) times than supes (4). almost all of her hits a because doomsday was focused on supes, and we literally hear her screaming in pain when doomsday knocks her. there's literally like 2-3 minute period where she is absolutely no where to be seen leaving batman and supes to battle doomsday by himself where he stalemates doomsdays heat vision before he eventually adapts. supes then goes to find Lois leaving doomsday to attack batman. it is heavily implied she got knocked out during this period

as if that wasn't bad enough, Wonder Woman literally says "I've never seen a being this powerful, maybe one", obviously referring to superman directly after getting mid-diffed by Steppenwolf, meaning she thought superman was stronger than her. official dc multiverse toys say superman was the most powerful hero before he died.

again, I don't think the "varies' rating is necessary
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She was fighting Doomsday independently while Superman was saving Lois. She seemed mostly okay. Her cutting his arm off wasn’t when Superman was distracting him.

I do think her training is why she performed better.
 
moth123 said:
She was fighting Doomsday independently while Superman was saving Lois. She seemed mostly okay. Her cutting his arm off wasn’t when Superman was distracting him.

I do think her training is why she performed better.
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Also, this thread is made of things I’ve been noticing for years. Glad someone put all the pieces together.
 
moth123 said:
She was fighting Doomsday independently while Superman was saving Lois.
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She literally gets knocked out offscreen in that period leaving Batman to fend for himself😭
moth123 said:
She seemed mostly okay. Her cutting his arm off wasn’t when Superman was distracting him. I do think her training is why she performed better.
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I agree; her being able to cut off his arm was completely due to combat training, experience and equipment rather than raw ap.
 
Bump

There’s still a lot more profiles that need to be updated. I don’t see why the old edits didn’t work
 
I don't have any arguments. I'm just wondering if the mother box actually has durability 5-B, since in many cases objects or characters that have the power to destroy worlds or planets don't have that level of durability because they just emit power. It came out all over the area, it didn't need to receive the power it released
 
Black Adam's tier section says “Likely High 6-A”, while the Ap section says “likely at least High 6-A”. Which one is correct?
 
Yokoahh5743 said:
I don't have any arguments. I'm just wondering if the mother box actually has durability 5-B, since in many cases objects or characters that have the power to destroy worlds or planets don't have that level of durability because they just emit power. It came out all over the area, it didn't need to receive the power it released
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The unity can tank its own output it’s very simple. the world ending wave physically came out of the surface of the boxes, therefore it tanked its own output fine. Yet when superman destroyed them, there was physical damage.

There’s literally no example of machines in the dceu not scaling to their output. With your logic we couldn’t the world engine shouldn’t scale to its output.
 
If that's case then in almost every case a weapon that can destroy the planet should be scaling, as I see it the mother box only destroys the natural resources of the Earth's crust. It's only H6-A?
 
Yokoahh5743 said:
If that's case then in almost every case a weapon that can destroy the planet should be scaling,
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Again, you’re not giving any reason why the motherboxes don’t scale to theirs, other examples don’t matter, it’s case by case.
Yokoahh5743 said:
as I see it the mother box only destroys the natural resources of the Earth's crust. It's only H6-A?
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Not in the snydercut bud. Go check the profile to see the reasons why it’s considered 5-B there.
 
Ares, Zeus and Mera have "SnyderVerse" section, I left it to you because I didn't know if it would be in "likely 5-B"

Also, since Lucifer, Amenadiel and Michael's profiles are locked, it would be better if you tell an admin.
 
Not much of anything else, I've seen, I'll be closing this now
 
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