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Vytal Festival Bracket, Round 1, Match 3

Ricsi-viragosi said:
However, for now, we agree that Legend stomps but is unfair, Ougi needs a power not on her profile, and that this match should be redone with backups? Or if we want to just take the "unfit are just removed and the rest fight as normal", then Nova gets absolutely crushed like a nut in October 1st.
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According to the current rules, Ougi and Legend would be removed and it'd just be Nova vs. the entirety of team PEW.

Would any be opposed to me making, eh, another exception and letting Wok/ThisThing swap to their backups? If Weekly, Ed, Psycho, and Saman are fine with it, I'm fine with it.
 
I was thinking about the "Telling your teammates to go ooc", I think that this thing should be limited to characters that would actually do it.
I mean, if a character is a honorable warrior, hot-headed or else, it's not in-character for him to rely on others.
Otherwise, if a character is a coward, a strategist or anything that suggests it would ask a teammate to use a broken power, then it could be accepted.
 
Sorry about my slow ass responses, I have a final on thursday so I'm really not focused on the site right now.

@Agnaa
"Titans: So he's survived actually taking physical blows from titans, which reach High 7-C, without even fully being in a breaker state. Doesn't that just mean that he has High 7-C dura without breaker? I really don't understand how you reconcile this with other stuff. "He's actually using his dura-increasing ability less, so him tanking High 7-C hits is irrelevant" is nonsensical to me."
It would not mean that. He is still using the breaker state to not die, shown by a bit where a titan smacks him and his upper body turns to lasers in response to this and also to try and heal a wound, but he's absorbing a smaller percentage of the hit to not go unconscious. However, this results in more actual bodily harm.

"Why would repeated High 8-C attacks or a High 8-C attack at a bad time momentarily down him? If he's using his speed amp to cheat around the equalization rules, why would he get hit?"

1: Because this just did happen.
2: His amp lets him accelerate higher and higher, but he's not instantly at MHS+. Slowing down just long enough to shoot some lasers at Alexandria clones was letting her gain on him till he went back into acceleration mode.


If I missed any of your comment, please let me know, I drafted this yesterday then had other shit to do.
 
It would not mean that. He is still using the breaker state to not die, shown by a bit where a titan smacks him and his upper body turns to lasers in response to this and also to try and heal a wound, but he's absorbing a smaller percentage of the hit to not go unconscious. However, this results in more actual bodily harm.

If his dura was actually far below High 7-C (i.e. if it was only High 8-C, or even lower), and he was taking bodily harm from it, he would be vaporized by a poke.

I really do not understand "He would die from High 8-C attacks so he has to use Breaker to protect himself, but even then a bad hit can still KO him. However he can survive High 7-C attacks by just taking some of the damage himself." Think about the tier gaps at play here, and it seems like complete nonsense. If that 10,000x gap between KO and not KO can be crossed by taking the damage to his body he should not have weak dura.

1: Because this just did happen.

Low-end feat we can disregard, or that character scales.

2: His amp lets him accelerate higher and higher, but he's not instantly at MHS+. Slowing down just long enough to shoot some lasers at Alexandria clones was letting her gain on him till he went back into acceleration mode.

Sounds like a really dumb tactic then. "I'm going to make myself vulnerable to attacks 10,000x weaker than what I can usually tank to make myself 10% faster."

If I missed any of your comment, please let me know, I drafted this yesterday then had other shit to do.

Nothing from that comment, but you did miss my next comment:
Also, I just realized the note says that weapons that cause significant harm to Titans and Endbringers would not be able to take down Legend. Aren't Titans 7-A in dura? And Endbringers go even higher (although their outer layers are lower). So why is Low 7-B his limit?
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Well, since the majority of Weekly's team is fine with Wok/ThisThing shifting to backups, and basically everyone thinks Legend is wanked out-of-tier, I will swap Legend with Vin Venture and Ougi with Geralt. Give me a sec to look at the stipulations and add them to the OP.

If any more characters are DQ'd they're just gone from the round period.
 
Also, I just realized the note says that weapons that cause significant harm to Titans and Endbringers would not be able to take down Legend. Aren't Titans 7-A in dura? And Endbringers go even higher (although their outer layers are lower). So why is Low 7-B his limit?
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Poorly worded on my part. Dragon doesn't have a file yet and hers is going to take a while, sort of needed a way to establish she'd usually scale to High 8-C. She made anti titan weapons, but the suits that were stolen and used against Legend were made way before any non Dauntless titans popped up.

Of course, if Vin is swapped anyways that also works.

and basically everyone thinks Legend is wanked out-of-tier
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You literally agreed to it smh
 
Rabbit decapitates Kenshi. WTT now has to deal with a borderline unkillable bloodlusted Telekinesis spammer
 
Poor kenshi,is it really necessary for him to be murdered?

Guess he didn’t see that coming.

On another note,I’m pretty sure a telespamming maniac TKing everyone on sight might compel Geralt to use axii.This could mindhax bunny/Scorpion and they’ll have a bloodthirsty swordsmen on their side.
 
What stops Rabbits' swords from being removed by Vin's metal pushing? Steel and Iron are the things she uses the most often. Violently shoving/pulling all metal's a pretty common opener, to the point where people trying to fight known steel and/or iron users go out of their way to have no metal at all.
 
ThisThingisReallyBroken said:
Poor kenshi,is it really necessary for him to be murdered?
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Necessary no, in-character for Rabbit 100000%
ThisThingisReallyBroken said:
On another note,I’m pretty sure a telespamming maniac TKing everyone on sight might compel Geralt to use axii.This could mindhax bunny/Scorpion and they’ll have a bloodthirsty swordsmen on their side.
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Please tell me we're not back to arguing whether or not Geralt leads with Axii in combat, we had a whole massive thread explaining that he doesnt, even his standard tactics say he wouldnt

Assuming of course Kenshi doesnt justimmediately push everyone's skeletons out of their bodies
 
Wokistan said:
What stops Rabbits' swords from being removed by Vin's metal pushing? Steel and Iron are the things she uses the most often. Violently shoving/pulling all metal's a pretty common opener, to the point where people trying to fight known steel and/or iron users go out of their way to have no metal at all.
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Pushing his sword would only accelerate it towards Kenshi's neck
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Pushing his sword would only accelerate it towards Kenshi's neck
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Rabbit doesn't start the fight with his sword positioned around Kenshi's throat, tho

Also, are we assuming Kenshi just lets Rabbit off him? Kenshi is motivated to cooperate with Rabbit, sure, but I don't see how that'd make him throw away his life, since he's still in-character outside of that.

Same goes for Rabbit - he's motivated to work with Kenshi, which sort of puts a wrench in him backstabbing his team, as "kill Kenshi as the fight starts" doesn't really spell out "work together" to me, even if it technically gives his team an advantage.
 
@Dargoo_Faust

Also, are we assuming Kenshi just lets Rabbit off him? Kenshi is motivated to cooperate with Rabbit, sure, but I don't see how that'd make him throw away his life, since he's still in-character outside of that.
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The argument is that even if Kenshi is against it,Rabbit would still be able to 1 shot him and bypass his senses regardless due to him doing so to a similar dude.
 
Dargoo_Faust said:
Same goes for Rabbit - he's motivated to work with Kenshi, which sort of puts a wrench in him backstabbing his team, as "kill Kenshi as the fight starts" doesn't really spell out "work together" to me, even if it technically gives his team an advantage.
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Because from Rabbit's perspective 'working as a team' means killing his potential allies and making them zombie slaves, that was actually a huge plot point in the Zodiac War story
 
Th op stats tht Vin is above baselin, that is still more than enough of a gap for Kenshi to just skeleton push
 
1. Extremely out of character, he hasnt used mind hax even when monsters were slaughtering people

2. Kenshi can very likely TK sword him before that

3. If Vin dies that is now another zombie at Rabbit's disposal and one right next to Geralt with quit a few powerful abilities

4. Scorpion exists
 
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