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Vytal Festival Bracket, Round 1, Match 3

00potato said:
Choking with higher LS.

Dura would help but a strong enough force could still choke him out until he suffocates.
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So, he would just stay there to be chocked instead of firing hundreds of homing lasers that matter hax? OOC is one thing, sitting down to die is another.
 
I like how characters get recto actively more competent the more they need it.

But, no, going a few inches deep won't change his durability.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
I like how characters get recto actively more competent the more they need it.

But, no, going a few inches deep won't change his durability.
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It's not retroactive competence it's the passive bloodlust and complete willingness to spam their op powers that Rabbit's zombies get
 
Bloodlust in story is not what we define as bloodlust, and the fact that you only bring it up when the previous argument fails is the thing I am pointing out.

You'd need proof that he can do that.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Bloodlust in story is not what we define as bloodlust, and the fact that you only bring it up when the previous argument fails is the thing I am pointing out.

You'd need proof that he can do that.
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I've been bringing it up since the beginning of this thread, it was literally the first comment in this entire thread
 
@Ricsi-viragosi

irrc,the story doesn’t mention any sort of limit in range for that sort of thing.However it can be reasonablely inferred it can be done within sight of the person.

Note that I am not talking about the black hole.Ougi shares the properties of all apparitions within monogatari,this would include the crab gods.The crab gods are capable of erasing any person that upsets them with a thought.

TLDR:Ougi can EE with a thought,albeit it is extremely ooc and there hasn’t been a single case within the story of her doing so.She is only capable of doing so.
 
ThisThingisReallyBroken said:
@Ricsi-viragosi

irrc,the story doesn’t mention any sort of limit in range for that sort of thing.However it can be reasonablely inferred it can be done within sight of the person.

Note that I am not talking about the black hole.Ougi shares the properties of all apparitions within monogatari,this would include the crab gods.The crab gods are capable of erasing any person that upsets them with a thought.

TLDR:Ougi can EE with a thought,albeit it is extremely ooc and there hasn’t been a single case within the story of her doing so.She is only capable of doing so.
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She erases herself. The darkness doesn't target others, it targets her.
WeeklyBattles said:
So i just want to point out that right off the bat the second the match starts, Rabbit would lead with decapitating Kenshi and turning him into a zombie, amping his powers and bloodlusting him into spamming Telekinesis
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You'll just ignore the part where I said you didn't mentioned this being applied to organs. Moreso, again, Low 7-B durability says no.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
You'll just ignore the part where I said you didn't mentioned this being applied to organs. Moreso, again, Low 7-B durability says no.
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Kenshi Takahashi (Second Timeline)

Kenshi The swordsman Takahashi Kenshi spent his early adulthood searching the world for worthy opponents. When the sorcerer Shang Tsung duped him into retrieving the enchanted sword Sento from the Well of Souls, the result left Kenshi sightless. Humbled but with a new sense of purpose, Kenshi...
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Instant Karma: Kenshi telekinetically pushes his opponent's skeleton out of their body with a Tele-Push.

As wok explained, his Low 7-B durability is a variable and he has been injured by High 8-C attacks before
 
Notably, if a character is challenged mid-fight and is deemed unfit for the bracket, they are not replaced in that fight with the backup. The fight continues as a 2v3, and if the team of two still wins then the backup is swapped in.
There are consequences for breaking the rules.

Seriously though, if we can agree that both Legend and Oumi are unfit, I'd be fine with having the replaced and potentially making another thread where Vin Venture and Geralt are used instead would be better.
 
But, I mean, fatalities, even in cutscenes, are generally used against opponents that have been either defeated or are weaker than the one who performs them, so it can be argued that even in a bloodlust situation, Kenshi couldn't do it immediately against an opponent that still has stamina
 
WeeklyBattles said:
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Kenshi Takahashi (Second Timeline)

Kenshi The swordsman Takahashi Kenshi spent his early adulthood searching the world for worthy opponents. When the sorcerer Shang Tsung duped him into retrieving the enchanted sword Sento from the Well of Souls, the result left Kenshi sightless. Humbled but with a new sense of purpose, Kenshi...
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Instant Karma: Kenshi telekinetically pushes his opponent's skeleton out of their body with a Tele-Push.

As wok explained, his Low 7-B durability is a variable and he has been injured by High 8-C attacks before
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Wok was also responded to above. It is variable when he isn't fully using the Breaker form, which has no reason not to do when an enemy that can kill him is attacking him.

Fact is, he can easily kill all of his enemies in seconds, and he instinctively stat amps against attacks. His enemies also don't know to focus on him. Add him speed amping on top of that, and things are simply unfairly in his favor.

It is bullshit mind you, but it is still a thing. Which is why I don't think he should be allowed, he is way worse then the Kamen Rider was.
ThisThingisReallyBroken said:
*Ougi
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That is not the part you should be focusing on.
 
I meant theres also

Way of the Blade: Kenshi uses telekinesis to lift both Sento and his opponent and pulls the opponent towards the sword, pushing it through their nose. He then uses his telekinesis to draw the opponent towards him and palms the hilt, crushing their skull and allowing the blade deeper through the nose before pulling it out. Finally, Kenshi stabs the opponent through the stomach, breaking the spine.
 
ThisThingisReallyBroken said:
Why was Karmen DQ’d again? He seemed fine.
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He can teleport spam, stat amp to the point of seeing people in slow motion, has a meaty stat advantage if I recall right, and can analytically predict everything under the sun.

Now, it might look less OP compared to matter manipulation and danmaku coupled with tier 7 durability and speed amps, but remember the tier setter is Yang.
 
I love how Scorpion and Nova haven't been considered by anyone. I guess they drink tea together while their teammates play with lasers, EE, telekinesis and friendly fire
 
Outside of being a tank Nova really doesnt have any gamechanger powers

Scorpion on the other hand I'm not sure why people arent taking him into consideration lol
 
By next time, I will have my character with resistance to dozens of haxes and the ability to share his resistance through an aura ready for this tournament, with a High 8-C backscaling from being much weaker than a near baseline 8-B.

Him, or if he turns out to be Low 7-B due to some stuff he may scale to then Ditto.


However, for now, we agree that Legend stomps but is unfair, Ougi needs a power not on her profile, and that this match should be redone with backups? Or if we want to just take the "unfit are just removed and the rest fight as normal", then Nova gets absolutely crushed like a nut in October 1st.
 
It's a bad matchup for both. Scorpion though has interesting and useful abilities like teleport, bfr and even setting you on fire from afar, and none of these are ooc. I lost track of what Ougi does, btw, her misdirection thing, ee, if the barrier is hyper strong or shatters to any blow etc..., what is tought based etc...
 
I lost track of what Ougi does
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1.Misdirection,negates GPS tech

2.Barriers,probably baseline 8-C

3.Ougi admits her being an aberration and summons a void to EE things around her.She could theoretically do this near the enemy team and just kamikazee it.

4.Existence erasure by thought due to her maintaining all of the abilities the apparitions have in the show
 
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