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I don't see a type on Garou's madness Manipulation. So I can't verify any resistance to Tricky's madness hax, sorry.
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Adventure Sonic vs Mujin Park
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and Adventure Sonic vs Mori Dan
https://vsbattles.com/threads/mori-dan-vs-sonic-the-hedgehog-9-7-1.154318/
should be removed from the profiles since Mori and Mujin were upgraded from 4-A to 3-B (The Mujin one shouldn't have even been applied to begin with since it's the most blatant case of a stomp match up possible but whatever)
(GRACE) Sonic VS Mujin Park
"Sir Sonic, Knight of the Wind" Sonic VS "Coordinator of The Six" Mujin Park Starting Distance: 5m Both are bloodlusted Equalized speed Optional Equipment allowed Adventure Era Sonic | Full Power Supreme God Mujin Park LOCATION: Sonic: 7 (@XxZetsuxX, @omegabronic, @Theuser789, @Eseseso...
https://vsbattles.com/threads/mori-dan-vs-sonic-the-hedgehog-9-7-1.154318/
should be removed from the profiles since Mori and Mujin were upgraded from 4-A to 3-B (The Mujin one shouldn't have even been applied to begin with since it's the most blatant case of a stomp match up possible but whatever)
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I do see the scan on Garou's Supernatural Willpower justification. I guess I'll remove the match.Here are the examples. These should qualify as type 2.
Removed.Adventure Sonic vs Mujin Park
and Adventure Sonic vs Mori Dan(GRACE) Sonic VS Mujin Park
"Sir Sonic, Knight of the Wind" Sonic VS "Coordinator of The Six" Mujin Park Starting Distance: 5m Both are bloodlusted Equalized speed Optional Equipment allowed Adventure Era Sonic | Full Power Supreme God Mujin Park LOCATION: Sonic: 7 (@XxZetsuxX, @omegabronic, @Theuser789, @Eseseso...
https://vsbattles.com/threads/mori-dan-vs-sonic-the-hedgehog-9-7-1.154318/
should be removed from the profiles since Mori and Mujin were upgraded from 4-A to 3-B (The Mujin one shouldn't have even been applied to begin with since it's the most blatant case of a stomp match up possible but whatever)
Removed.
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I think you might have missed Moris incon match which is still greatly outdated.
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I vividly remember quoting the Griffins message but it somehow disappeared
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So odd because I only remember the Mujin match being suggested and when I removed it, I was like "why didn't the ask me to remove that one as well?", so I left it alone. Goes to show I really am tired. Regardless, I removed it.
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No problem, thank you for your help
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I think that DBZ Goku's fights against Vorago, Superman, Bardock, Thor, Sonic, Ryu and Asta should be removed for the following reasons:
Vorago, Superman, Sonic, and Asta - The updated AP ratings for the DB Manga made it so that Early Z Goku is now Large Planet level, which means he now AP stomps everybody listed. Some of these characters do have dura neg stuff, but I think we'd need to make new VS Threads for them, right?
Bardock - Frieza Saga Super Saiyan is now Low 4-C, meaning that Bardock now stomps as an SSJ.
Thor - L&T Thor is now flat 5-A, meaning that SSJ Goku would beat Thor with ease.
Ryu - Namek Saga Goku is now considerably weaker than he was before. Ryu now AP stomps Namek Saga Goku.
I'm not entirely sure if any other fights need to be removed from his profile. Either they're same series stuff, or Goku was already at a massive AP advantage (like with Deoxys and Powdered Toast Man.)
Vorago, Superman, Sonic, and Asta - The updated AP ratings for the DB Manga made it so that Early Z Goku is now Large Planet level, which means he now AP stomps everybody listed. Some of these characters do have dura neg stuff, but I think we'd need to make new VS Threads for them, right?
Bardock - Frieza Saga Super Saiyan is now Low 4-C, meaning that Bardock now stomps as an SSJ.
Thor - L&T Thor is now flat 5-A, meaning that SSJ Goku would beat Thor with ease.
Ryu - Namek Saga Goku is now considerably weaker than he was before. Ryu now AP stomps Namek Saga Goku.
I'm not entirely sure if any other fights need to be removed from his profile. Either they're same series stuff, or Goku was already at a massive AP advantage (like with Deoxys and Powdered Toast Man.)
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Someone got to this one.
I removed the Bardock, Thor (Those two matches were already removed their respective pages, just needed to remove it from Goku's), and Ryu matches. I'll check the other ones when I get the chance.
I removed it from the profiles.
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John Sekiro vs John Lobotomy (Wolf vs Lobcorp Employee) is an outdated match which was made before the potency of black and white damage got jacked way up, and also seems to have missed that the specific gear given for this match give the lobcorp employee a rather large passive effect that Wolf can't really do anything about.
I'll remove this in the morning if nobody objects to that but idr what the wait period is
I'll remove this in the morning if nobody objects to that but idr what the wait period is
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Rai vs Sucy was added to profiles although the wincons for the latter were not addressed to avoid a stomp and the debate did not reach a definitive conclusion.
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This match of Loid vs Arthur should be removed, among various reasons because people were misinterpretation speed equal rules and Loid speed section. People (mainly one but others just believed him) were claiming that Loid would be unable to dodge Arthur bullets because his base speed was superhuman (lower than Arthur Supersonic at the time), while only his combat speed was higher than Arthur (Supersonic+), so the argument was something along the lines of Loid being too slow to dodge them because not even his reactions were Supersonic+.
Some people like Dale tried to point out this problem, explaining how even with speed equalized he would be able to doge bullets:
There are several more points of contention in the thread (how people underrated Loid analytical feats, stealth mastery, marksmanship, combat ability, etc) but the above two things are the main reasons as to why the match should had never been added and needs to be removed, as the opposition used outright incorrect information (I would even dare to say maliciously) to argue against Loid and add an invalid match, so I would like to ask for permission to remove it.
Problem with this argument is that combat speed is, quite literally, the speed at which characters are capable to fight (which obviously include dodge and attack):
With it being explicitly mentioned that reactions are just small, single bursts of movement while combat speed is being able to make several moves at those speeds, which means that Loid indeed had the ability to react and dodge the bullets the moment they were fired as his combat speed would be equalized to Arthur Supersonic. Loid superhuman rating is for long distance, not combat situational movements, at practical effects it's for his travel speed or any speed that doesn't involve any form of combat.
Some people like Dale tried to point out this problem, explaining how even with speed equalized he would be able to doge bullets:
But the other side was just straight up ignoring him and the math explaining why he wouldn't get blitzed by bullets when his speed gets equalized to supersonic. Further more, the speed equalization rules also specify that if a faster character lose just because they get equalized to a lower speed
Besides the speed part, there was also another quite big misunderstanding that people were making, that is that Loid is all stealth with no military training or experience in direct armed confrontations, which is similarly just wrong because as a matter of fact, Loid was a soldier before become a spy and he himself killed enough people to sit in a pile of corpses while thinking about how many thousands more would need to die before he could stop fighting.
There are several more points of contention in the thread (how people underrated Loid analytical feats, stealth mastery, marksmanship, combat ability, etc) but the above two things are the main reasons as to why the match should had never been added and needs to be removed, as the opposition used outright incorrect information (I would even dare to say maliciously) to argue against Loid and add an invalid match, so I would like to ask for permission to remove it.
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I will only be adding one comment regarding the loid vs arthur matchup, which I knew was gonna be made lmao. Idm however it ends up but in particular the last paragraph:
"There are several more points of contention in the thread (how people underrated Loid analytical feats, stealth mastery, marksmanship, combat ability, etc) but the above two things are the main reasons as to why the match should had never been added and needs to be removed, as the opposition used outright incorrect information (I would even dare to say maliciously) to argue against Loid and add an invalid match, so I would like to ask for permission to remove it."
This is not a valid reason to remove a match, that just shows you were unable to convince others of your arguments of loid supposedly being that good at whatever you're bringing up when the opposition simply just argued how the other is either better or gets around it. Now my biggest issue here is saying Gin and I (because I was one of the main people arguing for Arthur) were acting maliciously, that is an attack on character and doesnt look good, we were simply debating you, I would appreciate if you didn't do that.
"There are several more points of contention in the thread (how people underrated Loid analytical feats, stealth mastery, marksmanship, combat ability, etc) but the above two things are the main reasons as to why the match should had never been added and needs to be removed, as the opposition used outright incorrect information (I would even dare to say maliciously) to argue against Loid and add an invalid match, so I would like to ask for permission to remove it."
This is not a valid reason to remove a match, that just shows you were unable to convince others of your arguments of loid supposedly being that good at whatever you're bringing up when the opposition simply just argued how the other is either better or gets around it. Now my biggest issue here is saying Gin and I (because I was one of the main people arguing for Arthur) were acting maliciously, that is an attack on character and doesnt look good, we were simply debating you, I would appreciate if you didn't do that.
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This is being absolutely manipulative and literally a straight up lie dog. Nobody at any point undersold what Loid's stealth and Analytical Prediction are capable of. Arthur's side was explicitly agreeing with Loid's Stealth Manipulation being better than Arthurs, only part we disagreed with in that instance is using it as if it's something infallible. Loid's failed several missions and has been caught before, so I'd appreciate it if people were to stop making it seem as if he's Agent 47. Marksmanship isn't even a comparison here, guy that's used a gun a few times vs one who's been a legendary gunslinger from day one.
Yeah again this is incredibly false. Nobody spread misinformation and it damn sure wasn't done maliciously. And I find it incredibly ironic considering how you've either been ignoring arguments from Arthur's side or literally just making things up such as us ignoring and or watering down Loid's combat skill. (Such as us claiming Loid can't dodge bullets from Arthur due to soley speed, whenever the reality of the argument was that it was a combo (special ammo travels much faster than 720M/S.), AoE, the skill of the shots and Dead-Eye making it especially hard for Loid to successfully dodge. This is also furthered by the fact that now Dead-Eye is a time slow so Loid dodging is even more slim now due to Red-Dead revisions.
If anything if the match is to be removed it should be removed for the basis of both characters receiving CRT's and such.
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Just because you got debunked doesn't mean the match will be removed. Copium hits hard
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Neither of you debated me actually, the moment I appeared to say that I would write a comment Gin stopped me saying to just let the thread die since nobody wanted to continue arguing, just for shortly after ask staff to close it as Arthur win. But that aside, if you actually read my post I'm explaining two fundamental problems (speed and Loid experience in battlefields) there were in the thread, that affected a lot the match and were used as part of the main arguments of why Arthur won, I even quoted the speed equalization rules to show how the arguments used were wrong and that even assuming that things actually worked like that the match would be invalid to add to the profiles due to the faster character losing mainly from being unable to dodge what they normally can.
You did, you spread the notion that Loid it's just a spy with no armed experience in battlefield, which I proved wrong, and you also spread wrong information about Loid speed section and how the speed equalization rules work, and ignored when staff (with the specific role of know how speed and physics works) noted that what you were saying was factually incorrect, because even if you argued that the special ammo was Supersonic+ (a rating that they don't even have btw) Loid would had still be able to move almost an entire meter away even if Arthur shoot at him from 2 meters of distance since he was equalized to Arthur Supersonic rating (which no longer exist so another reason to remove it Ig), also, you indeed were arguing that Loid couldn't dodge because he was too slow.
And you also ignored the speed equal rules that state how a match can't be added when the main reason for a faster character to lose is because they are now slower than the opponent.
So, it was a match that should had never be added to begin with due to the problems pointed above.
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Don't clog the thread with this kind of unnecessary messaging. Leave this for staff to look through
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Can you not gaslighting? Cease with that attitude
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Because that's how grace works. I'm gonna ask you to stop making up blatant lies here because this is very much ridiculous. Right now all your doing is purposely misconstruing the points of my messages and literally leaving out context. For starters you were not ignored with malicious intent, you commented after the grace period began.
This also never happened, I was fully aware that Loid was a child Solider before becoming a spy. Congratulations? Literally said it's a good feat but given how vague it is, and we lack lots of details on that part of his life using it as a skill feat with 100% certainty doesn't feel right. Which again was my main point which stands true. Loid can definitely fight but that's not his bread and butter, he's a spy first and foremost. He isn't a John Wick / Agent 47 like assassin character.
I find it incredibly ironic that your claiming that I spread misinformation yet your literally out here doing exactly that.
Yeah now your definitely making shit up because I never once ignored how speed equalization works. Me and Dale both went back and forth about that subject, where he was right given the distance but then you failed to mention my other arguments (I.E AoE, Analytical Prediction and Perception manipulation via Dead-Eye.)
New flash, calc group members can be incorrect you know? Just because someone is staff doesn't automatically make everything they say a indisputable fact.
Again here we go with you claiming that others are ignoring shit whenever you literally ignored the rest of my arguments to hyperfocus on one point in an attempt that i can only assume is to make me look bad. Furthermore literally in the middle of the match i mentioned Arthur's speed would be revised soon.
Again ignoring multiple arguments to hyperfocus on a point I didn't even plan on dying on. There's also the fact that i mentioned Analytical Prediction, AoE, faster rounds (Which he did have in his speed section via "higher with special ammo") and Dead-Eye allowing him to make multiple shots and react quicker than Loid.
That was one argument, one that I didn't even push as much as your trying to make it seem.
Like your really banking on this speed argument whenever the reality is that part of the argument was incredibly short lived with the most of the bulk of the thread being skill discussions.
Literally didn't even add the match so not sure how you can blame for this. Uh anyway, the bulk of your reasoning here is flawed because for
1: Speed was never a major part of the argument. We argued back and forth about speed before ultimately the discussion was changed into a skill debate and what Dead-Eye does.
2: There were a multitude of reasons why people voted Arthur, not just because of the speed argument but the other win-cons Arthur had.
3: Nobody was spreading misinformation. If anything that's you spreading misinformation, I'm fully aware that Loid was a child Solider but argument was against the unknowns in that situation making it vague as **** to use. Dead-Eye at the time was accepted as being a speed amp, that topped with the speed of Arthur's bullets + Dead-Eye making Arthur faster while slowing down his perception of time allowing him to fire off multiple shots to hit Loid.
4: Now your really claiming that Loid can just lol nope dodge his way out of literally every attack. Very few characters on this wiki are skilled enough to dance around their opponents without being tagged once.
TLDR: You yourself are blatantly spreading misinformation, ignoring the rest of the argument to hyperfocus on one rather small part of the argument in the long run and claiming you were ignored. You commented after grace began, nobody is obligated to reply to your comments. Furthermore this frankly strikes me as bias given that you had a blow out in the last Red Dead redemption thread regarding Dead-Eye. If I recall an admin had to step in to make you chill and I quote verbatim "nobody likes a sore loser."
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It's okay brother, we will remove the fight once Code White hits streaming services.
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Loid grew in the equivalent of the WWII of his world, and as shown killed thousands of soldiers as a teenager before even becoming a spy in the war, so this argument you made about Loid was straight-up incorrect and a source of misinformation, and argument that you were continuing to push even as far as page 5.
You claimed that Loid reactions and movement speed were Superhuman so he couldn't dodge Arthur Supersonic speed, so you were factually wrong with how speed equalization works, and you were also ignoring Dale explanation of why Loid had the speed to dodge Arthur weapons through simple math.
Regarding the aoe ammo I mention the problem with them close to the end of the post, but if you refer to thing like the explosives that you brought at some points, the problem with those is that: Loid durability scales higher than Arthur explosives, as even in the current point, with the dynamite getting upgraded through calcs (2.8 to 4MJ), they still are below to what Loid has survived with minor injury (9.5MJ), in the past when they didn't had a calc they could be scaled to lower numbers (1MJ) so the difference would be even higher then, and even more so when considering that Loid would need to basically hug them for him to receive the full power of the explosion, in fact Arthur is more likely to get hurt than Loid since they take a good part of his health bar (if they don't outright kill him) as shown in the recent crts. So they also aren't an argument for Arthur winning, so that's another thing wrong in the match.
And about the Dead Eye point that comes down to the speed thing, in which Loid just straight up has the speed to move away even at close distances because the bullets aren't faster, so it doesn't matter that Arthur see him at slow motion if his projectiles still can't touch Loid. On top of that is the fact that your would be arguing that the faster character lose because an speed amp of the slower character, which is explicitly against the rules to add to the profiles:
So again, yet another reason to remove the match.
When the work of a staff is be good at math, and the argument in question is a very simple math problem, it makes their words to have far more weight than someone who doesn't do math like Arthur side.
You didn't mention it, the calc member you are saying is wrong told you Arthur speed rating was wrong, which he proved correct with calcs and a crt where Arthur speed was downgraded, so again, his words about the speed part have more weigh and are more reliable than yours since they are a completely mathematical problem. Also, since Arthur speed now is outdated due to downgrades then that's yet another reason more to remove the match.
It wasn't a skill discussion the main point, the main argument was that Loid would be blitzed by the special ammo and Arthur Dead Eye even though the ability doesn't affect the speed of the bullets, so it would all come down again to the fact that Arthur would need to shot at him from basically CQC distance so the bullets had a chance of hit Loid with the Supersonic speed that he was getting equalized.
These are quotes from beginning to end of the match, so up to the end you were indeed arguing that the bullets would blitz Loid, even though his combat speed was equalized to Supersonic.
And the thing about that special ammo and aoe ammo you are using is that, even assuming that those shotgun and express rounds were Supersonic+ (857.5m/s), they would need to be fired as close as 2 meters away for Loid potentially being unable to dodge them at the Supersonic (377.3) combat speed he was equalized. At 2m away he could move 88cm away in the time they got fired and travel close to him, at 3m he could move 1.3m away, at 4m would be 1.7m, and so on, so unless Arthur fought him at really close distances (the initial distance was also 20 meters apart btw), which you explicitly said wouldn't happen because you said the moment Loid was on sight he would be instantly killed), then Loid would be capable to dodge, this isn't a debate, it's a simple fact that comes from simple math (as pointed by even a calc member), but even so you argued against saying that he would be blitzed or be too slow to dodge. And once again, this is being generous to say that the special ammo is at least Supersonic+ (a rating they didn't even have) and that Arthur is using constantly his fastest ammo with his fastest weapons, so even with the most generous interpretation Loid could factually speaking move away. Dale also out how the ammo with aoe is also slower so that would make the distance that Loid can dodge even higher:
But Arthur side continued to ignore the simple math and facts, that Loid had the speed to just move away.
So, at the end of the day, the match should be removed due to the above pointed problems, as well as the fact that now is also outdated the fight.
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Alright people, I, as the Speed Equal connoisseur I am, shall step in and evaluate this problem!
So hitting this paper here, at the time of the match Arthur had Supersonic combat speed and guns, while Loid had Mach 3.16 combat speeds, reactions, etc... AKA, Supersonic+. If ANY of the main arguments was that Arthur won through ANY form of speed,(this includes his guns BTW) the match needs to be removed immediately.
Considering the levels of skill at play here, and considering Loid scales to several bullet dodges, even if he was equalized to Below Average Human a bullet wouldn't be hitting him unless Arthur managed to get the jump on him.
Now I didn't read that thread, but I think it should be removed JUST because of the shit going on with speed here.
So hitting this paper here, at the time of the match Arthur had Supersonic combat speed and guns, while Loid had Mach 3.16 combat speeds, reactions, etc... AKA, Supersonic+. If ANY of the main arguments was that Arthur won through ANY form of speed,(this includes his guns BTW) the match needs to be removed immediately.
Considering the levels of skill at play here, and considering Loid scales to several bullet dodges, even if he was equalized to Below Average Human a bullet wouldn't be hitting him unless Arthur managed to get the jump on him.
Now I didn't read that thread, but I think it should be removed JUST because of the shit going on with speed here.
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Literally show me where it's stated Loid killed thousands of Soliders as a teen. The closest statement is Loid talking about the thousands of bodies from the war itself. Loid was not the only Solider in his military, and this figure is likely in reference to casualties on both sides.
Him partaking in his equivalent of WWII is irrelevant to this discussion as you can't compare the two in terms of what actually went down. Even if they were stated to be comparable this is not a direct 1 on 1 comparison.
Loid first and foremost is a spy, not a direct combatant like Yor. The Databook also states that Loid bread and butter is avoiding combat due to his nature as a spy. Let's not sit here and pretend that Loid was rambo at the age of 17. You continue to accuse me of lying yet you just completely fabricated a number for Loid's kill count.
You can continue to argue this but the intelligence section for both make it clear who's more adept at marksmanship.
Again cool, doesn't mean Loid is capable of literally dodging all of Arthur's attacks without fail, especially considering at the time Dead-Eye was considered as a combat and perception amp. This argument also works both ways given Loid's side was arguing Loid can dodge all of Arthur's attacks while pretending Arthur can't do the same. (The same guy who held a significant speed advantage via Dead-Eye in the speed equalized scenario.) Also this works both ways, speed is equalized so Arthur would be able to do the same.
Let me stop you right there. First of all, Loid's durability doesn't allow him to tank fire and extreme piercing damage. With Dead-Eye Arthur would have been capable of targeting vitals such as the neck, eyes, and other weak spots. Unless your assuming Loid's eyes are as durable as the rest of his body or that Loid's skin is now magically fire proof this isn't a argument. Furthermore Loid's durability is meaningless whenever his feat comes from blunt force, a lot different than the damage you'd get from a bullet due to it being focused on a small and precise surface area.
Again read above, Loid having higher durability doesn't counter Arthur being able damage him via piercing damage. Again Loid's durability doesn't save him from his vitals being targeted, nor is he durable enough to completely ignore being pumped full of dozens of bullets that cause piercing damage due to targeting smaller surface area.
Also wrong on the TNT point, Arthur's fully capable of shooting them from a safe distance to make sure they don't blow him up. This is undermining Arthur's intelligence, as if he'd just blow himself up. Secondly the TNT argument was mainly for clearing out the objects to hide behind.
Absolutely not. Dead-Eye increased Arthur's perception time to the point where time became slow for him. (At the time.) Speed was also equalized at the time meaning they'd both have the same level of movement and reaction speed with Arthur being the only one with a speed amp.
Not much of a valid argument given that Arthur's reaction and overall speed via Dead-Eye would allow Arthur to see Loid coming in slow motion, thus being able to litter the battlefield with bullets. Or more specifically placing them where Loid's moving before he finishes said movement.
Once again I'm not the one who added it. If you bothered reading I'm agreeing that it should be removed for a multitude of reasons. Both had revisions, upgrades, the issue of the speed equalization, etc. I just don't agree nor appreciate some of your arguments being used.
First of all. "Doesn't do maths like Arthur's side." makes absolutely zero sense. Secondly, again you really continue to push this agenda by using misleading quotes without actually providing the full context.
This is also a blatant lie. The speed blitzing was again, a simple part of the argument. Stop painting the narrative that the only argument made was the bullet speed. You can keep quoting my old comments without providing the proper context, it doesn't help your argument.
Cool that was never the argument so another irrelevant point.
Which is possible by Athur utilizing Dead-Eye to place bullets exactly where Loid plans on moving before said movement is complete.
TLDR: Your entire Bible is incredibly slanderous, dishonest, manipulative and petty. Instead of simply saying that the match is invalid due to it being outdated as both had revisions, you attempted to set the narrative that people are lying. It's very much unnecessary.
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Yeah, I really dont appreciate these "lying" and "malicious" accusations. And the whole narrative that the battles crux was "lol speed", if you really want to keep quoting Arthur's side of the argument why arent you quoting with context, it's really manipulative. If the match is to be removed, it would be due to revisions on both sides.
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Could also just ya know remake the match tbh
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Classic Sonic vs Seiga Kaku should be removed, due to Seiga having become 2-C and Super Sonic being either Low 2-C or Low 1-C.
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Removed both.
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Tbh Myx powers are only 11D inside the fifth dimension, not outside of it (As specified by his profile)
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yeah and OP was using Mxy inside the 5th dimension which is High 1-C now
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Did the OP said she was using this version at any point of the match?
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"Current Incarnation Mxy will be used. Fifth Dimensional powers can be used."
That is High 1-C Mxy
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"Low Complex Multiverse level with powers in the lower worlds (Stated to have infinite power.[88] Emperor Joker with his powers was able to warp the universe, hell and heaven, as well as the Sphere of the Gods in his image and overpowered residents of the Sphere of Gods, such as Darkseid, High Father, Phantom Stranger, etc. And was able to overpower Hal-Spectre as well as Doctor Fate and Takion. He did all of this with extreme ease, and it was implied that he could do far more if he tried, but it seems like he wasn't interested.[80] Considered one of the most powerful beings in all of DC Comics.[72] Was going to unimagine the DC Multiverse out of existence[110][111][112][113]), High Complex Multiverse level in the Fifth Dimension (Mister Mxyzptlk is one of the most powerful beings from his dimension.[72] Exists in the Fifth Dimension, a imaginary plane existing all around and between the realms of the DC Multiverse at the exception of the Sixth Dimension and the Source Wall.[72] Fifth-Dimensional Imps can travel freely through Time and Hypertime,[114][Note 2] the time half of Existence.[115] The 3-D universe is spatially flat from their perspective.[116] Mister Mxyzptlk is the same as his other[70] variations which appeared in the main continuity.[75] Perceives Superman through infinite realities on a game board.[76] Sees Superman and Batman’s universe as nothing more than a game that he can change.[102])"
Only inside the fifth dimension his powers are High 1-C, his powers outside of it are Low 1-C
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