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Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)


Broly now is 2-C against a low 2-C

Broly was argued to be able to hold a AP advantage that could end the match with time but Darkside can win with hax before he becomes strong enought to one shot

Now he just one shots, no time for Darkside to win with said hax

Edit: https://vsbattles.com/threads/toppo-vs-darkseid-grace.124301/

Toppo also is 2-C, he won as a low 2-C thanks to his Hakai aura, now he can one tap Darkseid too
 

Asking for the removal of Dr. Robotnik matches, his AP was extremely buffed to the point of him being able to easily one shot Joseph and Charles (10 times AP difference and not counting upscaling), in the case of Joseph, Hamon is considered durability negation by stopping a human heart, but Super Robotnik´s body is considered "invulnerable" except in one specific part and strong enough humans can survive this in Jojo

In the case of Charles, depends of Charles surviving long enough to use hax, and that depends of him being able to survive Robotnik easily tanking his weapons and destroying his helicopter with him inside (if he is inside the helicopter) and he only have used hax inside his helicopter, so...
 
This match between Iron Man and Greninja should be removed for several reasons:
  • First, Iron Man is not physically 7-B and all of his physical stats are Low 7-C, so the description that the 7-B versions of the characters were used is wrong, it also says that Mark 46-47 Iron Man was used when he is just 8-C. But more importantly Iron Man can't do any damage with the 99.99% of his attacks and is one-shot by any attack from Greninja.
  • Second, Iron Man is only 7-B with his lasers, an attack he doesn't start with and isn't even able to use them constantly. And even if he does use them before he's one-shot, his lasers (47.8 Megatons) are just slightly stronger than Greninja (45.88 Megatons), so the damage would be minimal.
  • It was argued that Iron Man would realize that his attacks wouldn't do any damage and would then immediately resort to his lasers. This argument is flawed and has many assumptions: Iron Man must first survive long enough to realize that his attacks doesn't deal any damage while facing someone he doesn't know could one-shot him at any time with any attack, and it must be assumed that Greninja doesn't dodge any attack while he doesn't land any of his, and even assuming all that happens the lasers won't do basically nothing.
  • It was also argued that Iron Man could dodge the attacks and fly during the fight, this is dumb because doing that is not a wincon, and Iron Man doesn't know that the attacks could one-shot him in the first place.
  • Lastly, it is a tournament match, so some members may have voted for the sake of it.
  • To summarize, the match should be removed as it is a tournament battle between a Low 7-C character who is haxless against a 7-B character.
 
Bump this also

Kusuo Saiki vs Mewto

Holy **** what is this thread.
First of all the OP is really weird since I cannot understand if Saiki has knowledge or not? It doesnt matter
"Mewto TK crushes!"
DTD literally counters it. Saiki has better mind hax and telephaty plus he has the faster thoughts
"Mewto has fear hax passive!"
Again DTD counters it.
Everyone ignored Saikis passive mind reading and faster thoughts, his RW, his teleportation, mind control and all that shit, the votes literally ignore DTDs points so this should be removed.
bump
 

This match is completely outdated, Baby was 3-B, Goku was 3-A but injured, now both are 2-C and the scaling chain for both would have to be discussed

DBS Goku´s page is locked
 
I guess I'll remove it myself? Since it's not debatable or something
People argued about Gwen using her hax first because she can see the future

Law pre-time skip does not exist and did not have Haki, current Law with Haki changes the whole match, so it can be remove and if someone wants, it can be made again to see if Law this time wins

So yeah, remove it because is extremely clear why it should be remove
 
Bump this also

Kusuo Saiki vs Mewto

Holy **** what is this thread.
First of all the OP is really weird since I cannot understand if Saiki has knowledge or not? It doesnt matter
"Mewto TK crushes!"
DTD literally counters it. Saiki has better mind hax and telephaty plus he has the faster thoughts
"Mewto has fear hax passive!"
Again DTD counters it.
Everyone ignored Saikis passive mind reading and faster thoughts, his RW, his teleportation, mind control and all that shit, the votes literally ignore DTDs points so this should be removed.
Bump
 
Gojo vs Naruto

This match should be removed, Gojo has received way more on his page since the thread and within the thread Naruto was never given a viable win con at all lmao. It was indeed a "haxstomp"
 
Bump this also

Kusuo Saiki vs Mewto

Holy **** what is this thread.
First of all the OP is really weird since I cannot understand if Saiki has knowledge or not? It doesnt matter
"Mewto TK crushes!"
DTD literally counters it. Saiki has better mind hax and telephaty plus he has the faster thoughts
"Mewto has fear hax passive!"
Again DTD counters it.
Everyone ignored Saikis passive mind reading and faster thoughts, his RW, his teleportation, mind control and all that shit, the votes literally ignore DTDs points so this should be removed.
Gojo vs Naruto

This match should be removed, Gojo has received way more on his page since the thread and within the thread Naruto was never given a viable win con at all lmao. It was indeed a "haxstomp"
Gone, reduced to atoms.
 
Can Piccolo and Broly's match be removed? It doesn't account for the currently accepted scaling (Broly's AD couldn't get past Gogeta Blue, someone who Orange Piccolo is vastly stronger than)
 
This match between Iron Man and Greninja should be removed for several reasons:
  • First, Iron Man is not physically 7-B and all of his physical stats are Low 7-C, so the description that the 7-B versions of the characters were used is wrong, it also says that Mark 46-47 Iron Man was used when he is just 8-C. But more importantly Iron Man can't do any damage with the 99.99% of his attacks and is one-shot by any attack from Greninja.
  • Second, Iron Man is only 7-B with his lasers, an attack he doesn't start with and isn't even able to use them constantly. And even if he does use them before he's one-shot, his lasers (47.8 Megatons) are just slightly stronger than Greninja (45.88 Megatons), so the damage would be minimal.
  • It was argued that Iron Man would realize that his attacks wouldn't do any damage and would then immediately resort to his lasers. This argument is flawed and has many assumptions: Iron Man must first survive long enough to realize that his attacks doesn't deal any damage while facing someone he doesn't know could one-shot him at any time with any attack, and it must be assumed that Greninja doesn't dodge any attack while he doesn't land any of his, and even assuming all that happens the lasers won't do basically nothing.
  • It was also argued that Iron Man could dodge the attacks and fly during the fight, this is dumb because doing that is not a wincon, and Iron Man doesn't know that the attacks could one-shot him in the first place.
  • Lastly, it is a tournament match, so some members may have voted for the sake of it.
  • To summarize, the match should be removed as it is a tournament battle between a Low 7-C character who is haxless against a 7-B character.
Can Piccolo and Broly's match be removed? It doesn't account for the currently accepted scaling (Broly's AD couldn't get past Gogeta Blue, someone who Orange Piccolo is vastly stronger than)
Eviscerated.
 
It's within the same tier, and I don't feel like debating the specifics. A new match can be created if people care that much.
Fuji, let me be honest.

You do realize that AP stomps can happen in the same tier, right? Even 1 universe of difference makes it as such. A 9-B can AP stomp another 9-B, same for High 6-A and 4-B.

Asking for Ultraman to get removed because of tier gap but not Goku despite even 3 vs 2 universes in a AP stomp in the same way as 1 vs 2 universes is legit lazy and dishonest.


Edit: I am dumb, I read only now that you agreed later lol.
All of Reimu's matches should be removed, as she shares a tier with none of them. Sakuya's matches against DIO and Ultraman should be removed as they are low 2-C and she is 2-C. I'd remove them myself but I don't know if I need permission first.
DIO was literally because of hax only.
 
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Nah I'm pretty sure the match is still valid as Muffet's attacks ignore durability, not to mention Lizardy already had the AP advantage prior to being upgraded to 8-B (She was High 8-C upon the match's creation)
Muffet isn't Sans and their dura neg got hella nerfed.
 
Why Goku Chowder and Kirby?
I made myself clear but oh well

Chowder was lowkey a stomp for Mario. And is over 3 years old

Goku doesnt have that tier 3 key anymore and its not even on gokus profile. About to be 4 years old this august so I say its old enough to go.

Kirby is also 2 yesrs old, Mario doesnt have the 4-A key, and Mario got better upgrades.
 
I made myself clear but oh well

Chowder was lowkey a stomp for Mario. And is over 3 years old

Goku doesnt have that tier 3 key anymore and its not even on gokus profile. About to be 4 years old this august so I say its old enough to go.

Kirby is also 2 yesrs old, Mario doesnt have the 4-A key, and Mario got better upgrades.
Oh my bad I wasn't really reading the rest of the message I just saw the links to their profiles and thought you were trying to nuke all the matches on em.
So I asked because I was wondering if there was a major change on the profiles, but nvm.
 
Sans vs Knuckes: Even if someone already said it was fine I still think it should be remade. The distance is not applied so its 4 kilometers = Knuckles range stomps
Sans vs Thanos
Sans vs Broly: The same reason as above. 4 kilometers + Ki AoE Spam is not good for Sans lol
 
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