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Touhou Discussion Thread 3 ⌈Eternal Fantasy Edition⌋

Deidalius said:
I wonder, to what extent we can start sharing words that banned users say? Like, just for CRTs? I guess that if an banned user wants to yap about something random the staff wouldn't let them but what if they're giving input on a CRT of a verse or something?

I wonder how would this apply if a banned user starts insulting users on-site lol
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Our rules do specifically disallow sockpuppeting and account sharing, but they aren't so specific on proxying - i.e.: still having an independent account but directly using a banned user's statements in your own. I believe past cases of similar issues have largely been handled by rough precedents. It's a gap in the rules that frankly should be filled, since I recall this kind of topic has come up before and has caused disagreements.

If I were to give a guideline here though - not in the sense of what is strictly against the rules, but simply what should result in avoiding needless troubles and controversies - the underlying question you should ask yourself is "is what I'm doing substantially different from the banned user just commenting themselves?". As in, if the banned user were unbanned and capable of commenting for themselves, would the comment and the impact of the comment be particularly different? And be honest with yourself. If so, you probably should avoid it.
 
DarkGrath said:
Our rules do specifically disallow sockpuppeting and account sharing, but they aren't so specific on proxying - i.e.: still having an independent account but directly using a banned user's statements in your own. I believe past cases of similar issues have largely been handled by rough precedents. It's a gap in the rules that frankly should be filled, since I recall this kind of topic has come up before and has caused disagreements.

If I were to give a guideline here though - not in the sense of what is strictly against the rules, but simply what should result in avoiding needless troubles and controversies - the underlying question you should ask yourself is "is what I'm doing substantially different from the banned user just commenting themselves?". As in, if the banned user were unbanned and capable of commenting for themselves, would the comment and the impact of the comment be particularly different? And be honest with yourself. If so, you probably should avoid it.
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But say they use the information FUJIWARA gives them off site

But they write their own crt with that information that was given. So it's more like a group thing, rather then one person's words
 
Spinoirr said:
But say they use the information FUJIWARA gives them off site

But they write their own crt with that information that was given. So it's more like a group thing, rather then one person's words
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By that guideline, it should be fine. It would be hard to imagine even strictly enforcing such a concept - generally speaking, CRTs are built on publicly accessible information provided in any given verse. Preventing people from using information provided by banned users in CRTs would be difficult to coherently separate from preventing people from simply having the same ideas and/or using the same sources as banned users.
 
I just want to add that Fuji is like, obviously the major force behind Touhou revisions and research, but she isn't the SOLE researcher lol. I've helped her out a lot (hell I've helped point out a lot of her planned arguments for higher cosmology stuff), and many other Touhou supporters actively help out in a group effort for that research doc, such as pointing out things we've found to her, or us individually discussing various aspects that she's unsure about to reach a more definitive idea. There wouldn't really be any issue with that research getting reformatted into CRTs and such.
 
Spinoirr said:
But say they use the information FUJIWARA gives them off site

But they write their own crt with that information that was given. So it's more like a group thing, rather then one person's words
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So basically using the work of banned users as sources/references to create something for your own purposes? I feel that 100% should be alright, even if you end up indirectly platforming them, just so long as you aren't being their proxy or stealing credit.
 
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Yukari became my favorite character once I knew she has a green aura with flies. I wish stinky women were real.
 
Sir_Ovens said:
Bro this is foul. Please consider deleting this before your future employer finds it.
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That's what using different emails and aliases is for. Don't worry, I have managed to hide all my online postings from all the Burger King employers. As far as they know, I only post pictures of my cats, Facebook memes, food and placed I've been in.
 
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Happy Cirno day to all the supporters.
 
Chianli said:
I do want to hear you out, but not e your friend at the same time
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Chianli said:
I have to be their friend on discor to actually here him talk, which I dont want
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I don't really get it. I mean, I sent you a Discord friend request but you decided to talk to me here, while I was self banned and didn't get the notification for your message.

You know the "List of friends" on Discord is just there for decoration, right? It's just for adding anyone you don't share servers with, not just friends.

Eh, either way, I am here now. I would have preferred to talk in Discord but eh, we're here now.

I don't really have much to say, I just wanted to let you have a way to contact me outside of Discord in case a demon possessed you to talk to me.
 


Wow, it seems Hero of ice fairy will get a DLC. I should hurry up and finish the game before getting the DLC.

I wonder of Koishi will drop more abilities when killed? I doubt any new ability could rival Marisa's laser. That one feels too good and powerful.
 
I'm planning to add mid-godly possible hight godly regeneration negation and type 3 and 5 immortality negation to the entire cast of Touhou 8 playable characters.

since in the extra stage they can kill Fujiwara no mokou several times, and she is not regenerating, she is literally dying since when she comes back her spell is literally called resurrection, not regeneration or healing, she clearly died and revived which means that the rules of spell cards were broken and she received real damage, the Touhou 8 cast managed to negate his regeneration and immortality (though not his resurrection, this also gives Mokou resurrection hax)

Another thing that supports the rules of spell cards broke up during this fight is that Youmu clearly said that she was not going to hold back
 
Isn't Mokou's whole shtick being unable to die- wouldn't that go against the fact she quite literally has an entire self-destruction move to blow themselves up and yet still manages to regenerate back? If she can resurrect, it's not really her fully dying more than it is a period of time she stays gone.

I doubt fighting against her with anything less than that would really do much to make her stop
 
Exactly, Mokou is immortal, she regenerates even if her soul is destroyed

But the protagonists in Touhou 8 managed to literally kill her, since clearly her spell when she revives is called Resurrection, that means that in effect she died despite of his regeneration and immortality

and killing someone who is immortal and regenerates is a denial of regeneration and immortality, she comes back because she is resurrected from death (which would give her resurrection hax)

the fact that she can self-destruct and regenerate doesn't change the fact that she was killed in Touhou 8
 
Isn't Mokou's immortality based on the fact that he can regenerate from anything? Like, it's not related to being unable to die or anything, she just regenerates from death
 
It's probably an oversight when updating character profiles.

I wonder if it's necessary to make a CRT to upgrade that, or if anyone could just change it to it's correct ratings without a CRT?
 
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