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Normally fanon stuff really bugs me out, but this... This is a beautiful exception.
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Normally fanon stuff really bugs me out, but this... This is a beautiful exception.
We don't really know the specifics of how she killed Houyi, or if he came back at some point. At best it'd be a possibly.Just realized; if we accept that Junko's purification is not effective against lunarians, doesn't that mean she gets her immortality negation like she deserves for killing Houyi?
Yeah, that's true. When you put it like that, I'm a lot more in favor of saying she did straight up negate his immortality.I feel like we can make a pretty good inference, though; Junko right now hates Houyi. That is her entire being, so much to the point that basically everything we've ever seen from her in canon is due to her hatred of Houyi being so much of herself that she is trying to kill his wife and has been for at bare minimum hundreds of years despite Chang'e being a Hourai immortal and also imprisoned on the moon.
Either Houyi is permanently dead, was murdered enough to satisfy Junko (technically a possibility, though I'd honestly toss this right out considering who and what Junko is), or Houyi is in a situation where it is vastly easier for Junko to kill Chang'e instead of him. I think the first one is the most likely, and I'm more wondering what the 3rd situation could possibly be.
I agree with this, but from a broader perspective I think it can be attributed to the mechanics of history which give everyone type 4/limited type 2 acausality. The fact that it applies to people beyond youkai is definitely interesting, and supports acausality as a whole a lot, so good work.Minorika Aki relies on few peoples faith. Since she and Shizuha didn't die when human village was removed from history, they should have acausality1. Other gods should likely be comparable to them as well. The entire reason for the ropeway to Moriya Shrine is to maintain Gensokyo's balance via gathering faith from humans instead of entirely from youkai.
This is a very good point, actually. I'd like to bring up some additional context from CoLA. Basically, curse/pestilence gods can still gather faith, and it seems that doing so makes them "real" curse gods. However, the fact that Reimu was able to summon said god prior to it gaining faith means it was probably still a god before gathering faith (which has its own implications lol), so curse/pestilence gods can still benefit from faith while not requiring it.Hina, a pestilence god, do not rely on faith like ordinary gods meaning her, and Joon get their weaknesses removed. One problem is that while Hina is also referred as a misfortune god, Shion is just a poverty god. But I think we can reasonably assume that due to her being hated by everyone, she doesn't need faith to sustain her existence.
Disagree with this, there's not much basis to suggest that they stop being gods when they become animate. Kogasa's SoPM article heavily implies the gods are still aware and active even after being given a name as a tsukumogami (otherwise, they wouldn't be able to maintain their grudge).Tsukumogamis should lose their god physiology except their nameless form as gods exists namelessly in tools.
I... feel like this is missing some context? I don't fully disagree with the logic, but TD says that the nameless divine spirits flying about are beings of the same nature as Kanako and Suwako. Kanako would also definitely be troubled by the loss of faith, otherwise she wouldn't need to move to Gensokyo. Suwako's profile just says that she'd be more bothered than Kanako, due to her body literally being made of faith. The thing about gods returning to their former existence (implied to be youkai) doesn't really disprove the existence of a nameless form, just that entering that form isn't done via loss of faith. I need more time to think about this, but I'm very uncertain. It's one thing I'll definitely have to deliberate over before making any changes to the profiles though.Divine spirits should lose their nameless forms because losing faith as a myriad god has different consequences than divine spirits. Suwako returns to her nameless form when Kanako, thanks to her base form being a spirit, is not that troubled by loss of faith. Gods that lose faith don't become a nameless god regardless of their classification, but rather return to their former existence. Just like how arahitogami return being a human when losing faith. Same should be the case with divine spirits.
However I don't think no one besides Kanako should get effected since she is the only god who's classification as a divine spirit is established in lore (aside from Aunn, and that god in CiRL iirc)
Some gods would keep incorporeality in their avatar forms (like Suwako, or any tsukumogami imo), but I get where you're coming from. Here's some more evidence for nigh-omnipresence btw. Myriad gods not having a spirit as a base form is fine. It's not in reference to either kind of divine spirit, since Akyuu still says Suwako can divide her spirit. I see it as her just not having a more conventional soul, like the kind of spirit youkai are made of.I believe gods should have three keys including body, spirit and nameless form
because it is implied that gods normally exist without a body.
In-corporeality, AE, duplication and avatar creation should be moved to their spirit forms. And it should written that all previous abilities from body should be present in spirit form.
Additional ability for the spirit form would be Nigh-Omnipresence. Gods' spirits are omnipresent throughout the concept they are related to (e.g. Suwako's spirit would be omnipresent along earth while Kanako's would be along sky).
Idk if being omnipresent also makes you clairvoyant in this wiki. If not, Aunn scans should just work fine.
I am unsure if myriad gods not having their spirits as their base form could create a problem.
Oh yeah, idk if I've asked this before, but would you like an invitation to the research GC? I feel like you'd be able to contribute a lot, you definitely have a lot of knowledge on Touhou.Snip
Would be an honor!Oh yeah, idk if I've asked this before, but would you like an invitation to the research GC? I feel like you'd be able to contribute a lot, you definitely have a lot of knowledge on Touhou.
Bro, el hecho de que no me entiendan a menos que usen un traductor hace todo mas gracioso.Compa, la mayoría de personas aqui habla inglés, no creo que muchos te entiendan.
The ART of "insane" ramblings is PERFECTED when FEW people understand you.I agree. Since most people here only speak English, there's a chance most here won't understand your insane ramblings about entering Gensokyo through dreams.
If I misunderstood anything, it's because understanding written Spanish is my weaker side of the language
I have thwarted your plans via the evil power of...The ART of "insane" ramblings is PERFECTED when FEW people understand you.
In ChineseI have thwarted your plans via the evil power of...
Being bilingual
Strikethrough 7 is my lucky & favorite number. Strikethrough27k words deep on the research doc... I keep running into things that make my head hurt though, so it's been slower progress than usual lately. We're gonna have 7 verse powers at minimum though, so that's nice.Y'all ready for everyone to get HDE?
uhhhhhh no how can it do thatSo uhhhhh
Did yall know that Remilia's mist can **** with boundaries? Because I didn't until like 10 minutes ago.
True embodiment of the "My political views change based on who I'm trolling" meme.If nothing else, Seija's political ideology is "Whatever is the exact opposite of the person she's interacting with".
Say it or you chicken.
Seija must be my spirit animal, that's really based of her. But that would probably put her as a centrist or something. She should lean more towards lib.left because last time I checked she wanted a revolution in order to flip all the power systems or something. That's a very lib.left thing to do.If nothing else, Seija's political ideology is "Whatever is the exact opposite of the person she's interacting with".
Also the compass itself is shit but that's par for the course, really.
If anything she's probably lib.right. Last time I checked the r/PCM meta was that lib.right peeps are egoists.Somehow still less dumb than claiming the trust fund baby who's never been told no before is Lib-Left. We have a lot of those in real life, and while they may not be packing swords of Hisou, we do know where they end up on the compass.
Heh, I acknowledge Touhou has a lot of lefty politics but to be frank, I don't care a lot about them nor if ZUN is a lefty (before you send this message google an insults for leftists and use it)Deidalius will never stop coping over the fact that he's a right wing cu/ck while Touhou continues to be based as hell with leftist politics
You're just scared of being open minded.Can someone confirm my suspicions that the political compass test is skewered to make you leftier than you really are and that I am actually a based and redpilled right-winger? I can't get this off my mind.