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Touhou Discussion Thread 3 ⌈Eternal Fantasy Edition⌋

I've heard rumors that ZUN is going to hold a meeting event or something.
We should hire someone to make ZUN confirm that game mechanics are consistent with all the characters

Also how high up is Momoyo in scaling chain, can she scale from the dragon god?
 
AdamHkureiJanitor said:
I've heard rumors that ZUN is going to hold a meeting event or something.
We should hire someone to make ZUN confirm that game mechanics are consistent with all the characters

Also how high up is Momoyo in scaling chain, can she scale from the dragon god?
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Well, he's doing an exhibition for PCB like he did for EoSD last year, so there's that :v

 
Kisaragi_Megumi said:


The hype is real, chief
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I admire how tight-lipped he remains even while drunk. All the drunkards I've met have their IQs lowered to room temperature numbers after getting even a little bit drunk. It makes me wonder how I would act if I was drunk. Though I'll probably never know that for a long time because my mother says it's a sin, it's bad for my health and yari yara. Ya' know, average latino mum stuff.
Kisaragi_Megumi said:
Are we still in spring season? Because i forgor to post this, another banger from Mush-Broom:
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That person has become my favorite Touhou YouTuber. I can't help but find those sprite animations charming and adorable. It triggers a feeling of happiness inside of me. I wish more sprite animators started doing casual, comedy or story related animations. Anything that isn't just fighting. All I see is sprite fights. I want to see more.
 
Also, how strong is Remilia's fate manipulation under the eyes of powerscaling? From what I understand, it is a really weak form of fate manipulation that's more akin to being lucky since she manages to get stomped by characters that don't have fate manipulation resistances.

I haven't seen anything in Touhou canon that proves Remilia's fate manipulation is even as good as probability manipulators/extremely lucky characters from other verses.

That and I've seen a lot of people who aren't in the powerscaling wank the shit out of that ability of hers.
 
AdamHkureiJanitor said:
Also how high up is Momoyo in scaling chain, can she scale from the dragon god?
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Since I didn't answer this before, idk if outright scaling Momoyo to the dragon god is that solid, but she's far stronger than any main protag. Their fight with her left them completely exhausted, even while amped by multiple ability cards, while Momoyo didn't even break a sweat.
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
Since I didn't answer this before, idk if outright scaling Momoyo to the dragon god is that solid, but she's far stronger than any main protag. Their fight with her left them completely exhausted, even while amped by multiple ability cards, while Momoyo didn't even break a sweat.
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Basically that, beside that what i said above, who know if we'll get a clearer answer on Momoyo with the Dragon Gods in the future, TH19 info dump on her if she's ever playable maybe? 👀👀👀
 
Deidalius said:
Also, how strong is Remilia's fate manipulation under the eyes of powerscaling? From what I understand, it is a really weak form of fate manipulation that's more akin to being lucky since she manages to get stomped by characters that don't have fate manipulation resistances.

I haven't seen anything in Touhou canon that proves Remilia's fate manipulation is even as good as probability manipulators/extremely lucky characters from other verses.

That and I've seen a lot of people who aren't in the powerscaling wank the shit out of that ability of hers.
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We can’t quantify Remilia’s fate manipulation as she hasn’t given any showings of it yet, so it’s not really a quantifiable ability.

However every character in the verse technically has passive pretty good fate haxx via the Fortune mechanic so it’d probably upscale from that, at the least.
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
We can’t quantify Remilia’s fate manipulation as she hasn’t given any showings of it yet, so it’s not really a quantifiable ability.

However every character in the verse technically has passive pretty good fate haxx via the Fortune mechanic so it’d probably upscale from that, at the least.
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What does the Fortune mechanic do? I haven't heard of that before.
 
Deidalius said:
What does the Fortune mechanic do? I haven't heard of that before.
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Read Chapter 27 of Curiosities of Lotus Asia on the Touhou Wiki, titled “The Mechanisms of Fortune”, gives a good breakdown there. I translate what abilities it nets in my Kasen v Fleetway blog too iirc
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
Read Chapter 27 of Curiosities of Lotus Asia on the Touhou Wiki, titled “The Mechanisms of Fortune”, gives a good breakdown there. I translate what abilities it nets in my Kasen v Fleetway blog too iirc
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Touhou fortnue is a very interesting concept. From what I get from reading those two things past midnight is that fortune control makes you lucky enough to die in a place you like and throw get the number you want when you throw dice? That seems strong but it's more like being really lucky in my eyes.
 
Bro wth
The idols had no flesh, soul or desire, and so the beasts were quite literally unable to lay a finger on them.
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<Mayumi>
"No matter what she makes, a spirit will come to reside in them. Even I am but a clay figure that was created by Lady Keiki."
(Wolf Marisa ending)
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Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
The idols don't have souls innately, but they'll gain one in the future (probably).
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Marisa also compares this idol making thing to "being able to create gods", does this mean idols would have divine spirits in them?
also it sounds a bit silly that beast spirits would gain the upper hand eventually if they had just waited
I'm ok with it though
 
AdamHkureiJanitor said:
Marisa also compares this idol making thing to "being able to create gods", does this mean idols would have divine spirits in them?
also it sounds a bit silly that beast spirits would gain the upper hand eventually if they had just waited
I'm ok with it though
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Eh, that's moreso in reference to items gathering faith and becoming gods via that, which doesn't require a soul necessarily (since Suwako lacks a spirit). It's just a verse mechanic where anything can become a god by gathering enough faith.

Also, everything in existence has a divine spirit in it by default, even "soulless" beings. They exist in everything, after all.
 
Hey everyone, has anything in Touhou been described as the "Culmination of someone's being"? Like souls, spirits, etc?

I ask because offsite I'm in an argument with a TikTok powerscaler and I'm trying to see if I can beat him at his own game. He claims that every single monster in Undertale is Outerversal because UT SOULs have been stated to be the "Culmination of your very being" making them metapsychical and they can interact with SOULs giving them metapsychics manipulation and metapsychics manipulation is somehow Outerversal. Of course, I know that is simply untrue, but at the same time, I want to argue using "TikTok powerscaler logic" because it's fun to highball and I want to nail my point further.

When I finally understand the logic of TikTok powerscalers, I will start highballing my favorite characters to Outerversal on TikTok. Outerversal Cirno is near my fingertips.
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
here's a trick that'll debunk any vs wanker: stop arguing and go outside
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(Insert stutter, insert stutter, insert stutter)-but I want to reverse engineer their logic to start making Outerversal Cirno videos. That's more important than the "outside" :v

Though now that I think of it, I don't have the keys of my house. I need a copy of them before I go outside for daily grass-touching.
Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
so are vs wankers just basement dwelling neckbeards who still live with their moms despite being adults?
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For your information, I haven't grown a beard yet. Shake my head. :v
Rakih_Elyan said:
How
In
Seven
*******
Hell
Is
This
Makes Any Sense?
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I just asked him. I'll wait for his explanation.
 
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