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1. He does it against strong opponents, so if Marco is pressuring him he'll use it.
2. So? Zoro reacted to the Yonko, he'll definitely be able to keep up.
His Iai attacks like Shishi sonson.
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The Right-Hand Man of the Strongest Man vs The Right-Hand Man of Joy-Boy!
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2. So? Zoro reacted to the Yonko, he'll definitely be able to keep up.
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When he wasn't guarding at all. Also what about the scene where Marco blocks a Blast Breath? Or King's Andon? Or Kizaru's laser attack aimed at Whitebeard? Or a Punch from Garp?
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Wait, isn't King being able to cut off Marco's wing proof he was using Buso? I still remember when a fodder stabbed him in the head in Ch. 999 and it had zero effect on him.
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That Reddit post was irrelevant, Eseseso didn't claim the attack didn't make King bleed only that it was credited to his Dura neg.
Zoro negs Marco's shield with fox fire style.
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Nah, didn't prevent him from regenerating just cleanly cut off his wing.
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Okay. I remember someone bringing it up months ago and it made me think King had used haki at the time, so thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Btw imo the key names for Zoro should change to Rooftop Zoro/King Of Hell Zoro idk Pre and Post Drug sounds weird for some reason
Btw imo the key names for Zoro should change to Rooftop Zoro/King Of Hell Zoro idk Pre and Post Drug sounds weird for some reason
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That's not a bad idea. Although a note would probably have to be made explaining that KoH Zoro is for the King fight.
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Yep.
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Actually, I renamed pre-mink medicine Zoro to "Early Wano to Rooftop" Zoro, but kept the second key since it seems fine IMO and if I changed it some people would likely get upset.
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yeah its fine
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Just gonna add that Marco blocks an attack from King, which Zoro failed to do in the chapter I linked.
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Yeah, but Zoro has Foxfire style to cut Marco's flames, is >= in speed, and can use Asura which, if Marco doesn't have Undying Thistle up to defend against, could do incredible damage.
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No. Marco was blitzing King and Queen left and right. Also kept up with Big Mom and Admirals.
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He wasn't blitzing them, and this Zoro outpaced Big Mom twice.
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All I remember is that he out sped her Prometheus attack on Luffy at least once on the roof.
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Zoro also got outsped by King.
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And? This is Zoro vs Marco.
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Marco outpaced King.
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Outpaced or did King just choose to not move like he did many times against Zoro? And Zoro never got outpaced by Base King.
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1. King was only in Base for 90% of his fight with Marco, while against Zoro he used his Zoan and Flame off forms.
2. Zoro was rarely outsped by King until he turned the flames on his back off. It was more an issue of Zoro being overpowered at first even when he could react to King's attacks, like when his Buso Santoryu attack got overpowered easily by a 1-wing attack from Hybrid King.
2. Zoro was rarely outsped by King until he turned the flames on his back off. It was more an issue of Zoro being overpowered at first even when he could react to King's attacks, like when his Buso Santoryu attack got overpowered easily by a 1-wing attack from Hybrid King.
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So you admit that he got overpowered when he clashed, whilst a weakened Marco blocked an attack meant to kill Zoro.
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It was probably meant to kill Zoro prior to the medicine healing him. Imperial flames can't kill Zoro as shown by the fact Zoro took one in the king fight unguarded and was barely hurt.
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It was still serious.
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So?
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So a weakened Marco blocked an attack from King, and Zoro didn't.
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Zoro blocked many attacks from King, when did Zoro fail to block King's imperial flames? Marco's shields get negged by fox fire style not sure what you're not understanding.
And this is the same weakened Marco who deflected a Boro breath from Kaidou and self admitted that his phoenix flames "Special Properties" allowed him to repel flames.
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You were the one who brought up Zoro in a later key first trying to compare him to Marco, I correct you on Zoro not being able to block King.
King's regular physicals aren't impressive, they were blocked and matched by Zoro's mouth sword alone.
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Making a comparison to a stronger character =/= scaling a character to a blatantly stronger one.
Not really the limit of Marco's physicals though. He can dura neg Zoro, he pushed back Kizaru for one.
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I wasn't scaling current Zoro to the later one I was making the point that your comparison is false, Zoro blocked hits from King and never failed to block King's imperial flames.
Crazy how this wasn't the point of your message though was it? You were trying to make a false comparison between Zoro and Marco and it ultimately is an invalid comparison.
As brought up many times in the thread, Zoro's fox fire style negs Marco's fire balls which is where his durability negation comes from (and in this key especially he spams that against every fire move)
Not sure why you keep bringing up pushing back Kizaru like it's a relevant feat; Zoro's feats against Kaidou are far superior to pushing back admirals and doing no damage.
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Marco's dura neg couldn't even put down Zoan Queen, so Zoro can survive it.
Zoan Queen's durability = his AP, as he fought people who hurt him like MP Chopper and Sanji, yet his Zoan AP couldn't even hurt an off-guard Zoro with a surprise bite in chapter 989.
Zoan Queen's durability = his AP, as he fought people who hurt him like MP Chopper and Sanji, yet his Zoan AP couldn't even hurt an off-guard Zoro with a surprise bite in chapter 989.
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What?
Let's step back for a moment. Can it even? For one as you yourself have acknowledged Marco's flames have special prosperities, and they aren't normal flames. They don't burn.
How? Stronger character failing to do x, when character y does so. As I have already proven Marco's speed is greater than Zoro's. His dura neg allows him to harm Zoro, and Zoro might not even be able to get through Marco's flames. Plus even when his regen is negged(i.e Garp), he regens a little bit after. It's really not as powerful as people make it out to be.
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"Special properties" doesn't change something from being fire, fox-fire style is stated to be able to cut through any type of fire.
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Greater speed.
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.. Who has greater speed?
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