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Alright, so I am going to be very clear in this one, I am not targeting anyone specifically in this thing, I have heard that this was discussed in a CRT before, and I am just going to state some more things which I say. As an active supporter of the verse, I think this needs to be cleared.
Feats Priority:
This is not a problem which I have faced a lot, but I have. The verse is a combination of feats from these sources:
Light Novel feats > Anime feats = Manga feats
That is, the Light Novel would hold the most importance, for example, the feats like running an unspecified distance, destroying an object with unspecified area/volume, being able to perform stuff.
The other sources like anime and manga should only be used for measurements, likely for finding the measurements of an unspecified distance, area, volume, etc. in the light novel, and only for measurements through pixel scaling. It is also important to note that if the light novel says that someone got blitzed at a distance of 5 meters, and the manga/anime gives the pixel-scaled distance to lower or higher, still, we will only see the 5 m distance, not a distance which is higher or lower through the pixel-scale (it is also important to note that this will only be applied to the feats which are already in a light novel, and at least adapted into the manga or the anime. e.g. Ibuki bending the insides of an elevator cannot have assumed distances, so it's likely to scale the distances through an anime or manga adaptation rather than just assuming from a manga or an anime).
Feats which are "onlies', like anime-only, manga-only or light novel-only, should have their own importance. Feats which happened only in anime or manga but not in the light novel should still be considered canon. We aren't having a "Classroom of the Elite (Anime)", "Classroom of the Elite (Manga)", and that kind of stuff. The verse is an accumulation of all the feats, so I think it would be best in that case. Unless the verse gets a "live-action", we don't need to make a different verse page, I guess so (e.g. Ryuuen threw sectional metals in the anime adaptation, but it is not shown in the light novel, so, it shouldn't be rejected on that basis).
Agree (4): @Clout5560, @Idc.violet, @Emirccan, @DeltaStriker22
Disagree (0):
Inconclusive (0):
Flowery Language:
There is a feat in Volume 6 of the Year 2 arc, in which, Housen is said to serve a tennis ball at literal bullet speeds. This feat received so much of criticism that the many feats of the verse were pointed out to be "flowery language", that is, metaphors and hyperboles, but today, I am going to say why that feat alone shouldn't be responsible for it.
Also, the feat can even supersonic+, as I calculated it here. If the calc gets accepted, it would be clear that the author was indeed not using any kind of flowery language in this one. Also, whenever I have seen people give examples of flowery language, they mostly mention the bullet speed feat, not many other feats have the same stuff, and some are genuinely not intended for it.
It is really frustrating to be a supporter of the verse and see calcs getting rejected and the explanation for the rejection is "flowery language". The thing regarding this is that people should actually not consider everything as "flowery language", because it is just like opposing the verse for no reason and considering everything as something which is not even meant for it. So, it would be better to make a CRT and then consider something as applicable or not.
Edit: My concern about this point is not me saying that the verse has no flowery language, it maybe would have, even Captain America once said, "I can do this all day." and stuff like that doesn't give him more stamina directly, but Captain America's words were statements, while Classroom of the Elite has feats too, which should not qualify under flowery language under speculations and assumptions.
Feats Priority:
This is not a problem which I have faced a lot, but I have. The verse is a combination of feats from these sources:
- Classroom of the Elite Light Novel (original work by Shougo Kinugasa)
- Classroom of the Elite Manga (original work by Shougo Kinugasa)
- Classroom of the Elite Anime (adapted from Classroom of the Elite Light Novel by Lerche studios till now)
Light Novel feats > Anime feats = Manga feats
That is, the Light Novel would hold the most importance, for example, the feats like running an unspecified distance, destroying an object with unspecified area/volume, being able to perform stuff.
The other sources like anime and manga should only be used for measurements, likely for finding the measurements of an unspecified distance, area, volume, etc. in the light novel, and only for measurements through pixel scaling. It is also important to note that if the light novel says that someone got blitzed at a distance of 5 meters, and the manga/anime gives the pixel-scaled distance to lower or higher, still, we will only see the 5 m distance, not a distance which is higher or lower through the pixel-scale (it is also important to note that this will only be applied to the feats which are already in a light novel, and at least adapted into the manga or the anime. e.g. Ibuki bending the insides of an elevator cannot have assumed distances, so it's likely to scale the distances through an anime or manga adaptation rather than just assuming from a manga or an anime).
Feats which are "onlies', like anime-only, manga-only or light novel-only, should have their own importance. Feats which happened only in anime or manga but not in the light novel should still be considered canon. We aren't having a "Classroom of the Elite (Anime)", "Classroom of the Elite (Manga)", and that kind of stuff. The verse is an accumulation of all the feats, so I think it would be best in that case. Unless the verse gets a "live-action", we don't need to make a different verse page, I guess so (e.g. Ryuuen threw sectional metals in the anime adaptation, but it is not shown in the light novel, so, it shouldn't be rejected on that basis).
Agree (4): @Clout5560, @Idc.violet, @Emirccan, @DeltaStriker22
Disagree (0):
Inconclusive (0):
Flowery Language:
There is a feat in Volume 6 of the Year 2 arc, in which, Housen is said to serve a tennis ball at literal bullet speeds. This feat received so much of criticism that the many feats of the verse were pointed out to be "flowery language", that is, metaphors and hyperboles, but today, I am going to say why that feat alone shouldn't be responsible for it.
Also, the feat can even supersonic+, as I calculated it here. If the calc gets accepted, it would be clear that the author was indeed not using any kind of flowery language in this one. Also, whenever I have seen people give examples of flowery language, they mostly mention the bullet speed feat, not many other feats have the same stuff, and some are genuinely not intended for it.
It is really frustrating to be a supporter of the verse and see calcs getting rejected and the explanation for the rejection is "flowery language". The thing regarding this is that people should actually not consider everything as "flowery language", because it is just like opposing the verse for no reason and considering everything as something which is not even meant for it. So, it would be better to make a CRT and then consider something as applicable or not.
Edit: My concern about this point is not me saying that the verse has no flowery language, it maybe would have, even Captain America once said, "I can do this all day." and stuff like that doesn't give him more stamina directly, but Captain America's words were statements, while Classroom of the Elite has feats too, which should not qualify under flowery language under speculations and assumptions.
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Like, why they even have the audacity to do something like that?
