I'm just going to ignore all the stuff that are not part of the argument. Very unnecessary. You interpreting me as hostile is not my fault. That's your flawed interpretation.
Save me the excuses Karo. I have seen you act like this in multiple Naruto threads, this is far from the first time this has happened with you. That's not "unnecessary", that's called getting called out for hostile behavior and I'm obviously not the only one here that thought your comments are hostile.
also how are you gonna say you'll ignore the argument then address it seconds later?
I also never accused you of lying. I said "I'm very close to accusing you of lying"
That's literally the same thing.
Asides from that I have not gone of topic once . The reason why I said that was because I was repeatedly explaining something and it and at a point it was more of you know what I'm saying but like just choose to deny it. That is pretty close to lying but anyways back on topic.
It's very ironic your out here throwing accusations of lying while lying yourself. You never gave an explanation "several times" you made one reply in regards to the Might Guy subject to which I even agreed that I was wrong. That happens, people make mistakes buddy.
to be clear I actually thought when you brought that scan you would have read at least a few pages before and after to like get the gist of what's happening. That's what I do though. So I thought you had all this information and was confused why you still said what you said.
No, I've stated dozens of times on the wiki that I haven't fully read Naruto. Plan on doing it in the future however.
You're really making it hard to have a conversation with you.
The feeling is VERY mutual Karo.
Your logic was luffy can overpower tso with sheer ap.
Keyword "was" not sure why you continue to hyperfocus on this point whenever ive already said i was wrong there.
Of course tso can be overcome with ap if you have resistance to it's hax. The issue is immediately you touch it you get erased if you are not immune. Might guy attacked without touching it. How did he do so? Kakashi used kamui To remove the tso out of the equation entirely.
Kamui was only used to teleport the TSO's away from Guy, after which Might Guy used his own speed and strength advantage to slam Madara into his own TSO. (To which he could have literally wrapped around himself or used a Limbo clone.)
So madara was just wide open and Guy just punched him.
Luffy is faster and stronger than the both of them. If Might Guy was able to accomplish such a thing by blitzing Madara before he could defend himself then so can Luffy via better speed amps.
Now madara himself is immune to tso effects so when Guy slammed him on it , it was broken. You're trying to paint a scenario where luffy can do same. Alright how? Who is going open the front of the tso staff completely wrapped around madara for him to be able to attack.
By doing what Guy did? Blitzing the shit out of him before he can react? Also pretty sure Madara doesn't wrap himself in TSO's 24/7.
And madara didn't use limbo because he wasn't even expecting Kakashi to use kamui on his tso.
Not sure how that changes anything. Blud got drop kicked in his ******* back and never stopped to go "hey maybe I should have a limbo clone grab me".
So when might guy suddenly appeared in his front it was very sudden.
Oh you must mean like how Luffy can do via speed amps? Honestly your shooting yourself in the foot here.
Coupled with the fact he actually wanted to enjoy his fight with Guy.
But he wouldn't enjoy fighting a literal god?
Actually the entire fight he decided not to use limbo.
That's even worse.
And luffy was not faster than Guy. That's on you to prove.
Karo just stop. Might Guy is Sub-Rel vs Luffy's FTL. However since speed is equalized base speed would be the same but Luffy has several blitz worthy speed amps. I don't need to prove it since the profile for Luffy and Guy already do. (Unless you think Sub-Rel is now somehow faster than FTL.)
Guy was faster than madara a great deal even with second step,and each step boost speed and by that time it was the 5th step.
Madara was also sub-Rel.
Speed is equalised here and luffy has amps more than madara sure but like both him and guy are faster than madara. Don't know how you came to that conclusion.
On god I shouldn't even need to explain this to a full grown ass man.
If Might Guy, Who's slower and lacks as many methods of amping his speed as Luffy could blitz Madara then so can Luffy. Speed being equalized doesn't stop Luffy from getting faster, and his speed amps are greater than Might Guy's which were used to blitz Madara.
Sorry but what I keeps seeing is luffy will continually dodging until.... like I'm not seeing any win con's for him here . He's gonna run out of stamina soon.
He doesn't need to. Also does this Madara even have infinite stamina? Thought that was for Edo only.
Once again it is not resistant.
Once again it is, as accepted on the profiles so you can make a CRT or just shut up at this point.
Having no matter is irrelevant. Tso erased susanoo which has no matter and is also the embodiment of the spirit.
The Susanoo is literally made of Chakra, I.E a form of matter. Susanoo's are not intangible or some type of spiritual abstraction. It's still very much a physical construction containing matter. If they didn't have matter they'd be intangible which isn't the case.
And buso is not accepted as EE.
..... You smoking that good shit rn huh? I literally never said Buso I'd EE.
You are yet to link me to a single crt or where it is on the profile.
"Can block out all Devil Fruit abilities." If Law can reverse Doc Q's DF after it had already effected him with Buso then Haki would be able to do the same with the Kage-Kage no Mi.
And he keeps following him. This is becoming a hide and seek game.
To which Luffy keeps evading. Also assuming Madara can match his speed.
Once again I'd focus on the actual arguments. I never misinterpreted your point. Like don't you get sarcasm? And luffy can't hit madara body like might guy did because the damn tso is wrapped around him.
The TSO doesn't start off instantly around him. And I do understand sarcasm but I don't appreciate it, especially with how you've been so far.
Great so the erasure is not the devil fruit ability. It's just what naturally happens to someone who has no shadow exposed to the sun. I have gone over this repeatedly. Haki users would be resistant to having their shadows removed, simple and short.
And as we've explained, the EE is literally apart of the Devil Fruit. If a Haki user gets affected by the Kage-Kage no Mi (as seen with Doc-Q) they'd be able to reverse the effects of the sun erasure by activating Buso.
So it has a wider range, that's cool. Not quite sure why reading minds is relevant here.
How is mind reading NOT relevant? As far as i'm aware it's something Madara can't actually counter.
And the said madara in question was able to fully do the latter while blind.
That was done via experience. In that instance he was not using Sharingan Prediction since it'd be impossible to predict with the Sharingan if your blind.
Have you forgotten revived blind madara. And any other stuff madara has sage mode so make up for it. The only thing is madara can't see the future.
Sage Mode is like Low level Kenbunshoku tbh, and when was Madara ever able to read minds without casting a Genjutsu?
Don't even know what you mean
He's a comedian. I'm saying your funny if you think I'm touching a Genjutsu debate on the wiki here lmfao.
, message more ginsama, MORE!!
), even Law getting out of Doc Q turning him into a woman required him to funnel Haki into his body after the ability had already affected him, Assuming that Haki should give EE resistance, Soul Resistance, or even Temporal Resistances just because those DFs exist without any interaction between Haki and the fruit is just plain goonery. Haki negging/dulling DFs doesn't mean it will interact with every fruit the same way.
