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That is not how heat scaling works just cause he likes using Amaterasu, completely different abilities and applications for a fire that doesn’t stop burning and a lightning based technique like Chidori. He never uses Kirin cause it takes time to set up and he’s never been in a fight during the war where it would have been useful. Raikage blocked Amaterasu with his lightning cloak, if Amaterasu was hotter the heat would have gotten through and instantaneously fried him.

Shigaraki cannot force AFO out by any means whatsoever so Sasuke can Genjutsu him all he wants. AFO takes control, seals their eyes shut and just starts nuking Sasuke constantly and Sasuke can’t do anything about it considering he can’t touch the ground or anything on it to substitute with.

I will concede that Genjutsu will work. Sure, if Sasuke gets into the inner world, he can control them.

He is not going to get that chance. He doesn’t know about the inner world to begin with. If he goes for a normal sharingan Genjutsu (paralysis), AFO will take over, seal their combined eyes shut and they will never be hit by Genjutsu again. There is no “then he Genjutsu’s AFO too” because he does not even know AFO exists while AFO will close their eyes.

People saying he can dodge Air Cannon by substituting are ignoring the fact that everything around Sasuke is decaying and if he touches anything he will decay too. He cannot touch the ground or anything touching the ground, so he has to fly with his hawk. His hawk then gets obliterated out of existence due to Air Cannon, as well as him, unless he does something about it.

Last I checked Sasuke cannot dodge permanently with body flicker in the air without a summon like he’s flying. He is dying before he even reaches ShigAFO to perform any Genjutsu.
1. Lightning jutsu on the wiki is accepted to have the real properties of lightning

2. Raikage did in fact not block it. He had to immediately cut his arm off.
3. Amaterasu is duraneg.
4. Sasuke doesn't need to know. He didn't know about kurama and naruto inner mind plane..he entered, discovered it for the first time and proceeded to immediately control kurama.

The people shouting decay I have no idea whether you don't know of simply jumping up
 
Senjutsu Susano'o is restricted but not Perfect Susano'o 🤔

anyway, not like restricting SS would make any difference because of this
Senjutsu Susano'o is what restricted here which I don't think that's needed here in the first place considering Sasuke needs Juugo for that
 
Perfect Susano stomps, no way yall genuinely think OP believes Senjutsu Susano should be restricted but Perfect Susano which is stronger is fine.
 
Maybe if you read why they restricted it. As you said earlier, "pay attention to the thread."
You’re the one trying to rat out and claim he can use Susano when the intention of the restriction is clear goofy.

But how’s about we just ask op then?
 
You’re the one trying to rat out and claim he can use Susano when the intention of the restriction is clear goofy.

But how’s about we just ask op then?
That isn't what rat out means. Pretty sure OP has blatantly said they only restricted the thing he needed an assist for.
 
That's not how debates work. You're sounding childish. Sasuke would just protect himself with susanoo
I'm voting sasuke. Vote who you want. Simple.
If he can use Susano he stomps, Shigaraki has no win con against a High 6-B. Hence why it should be restricted since Sasuke has win cons against a High 6-C.
Garuda dodges, Susano'o isn't restricted.
Ten thousand kilometer diameter blast, it dies. Show me Garuda dodging Ten thousand Kilometer diameter cone blasts.
Is Perfect Susano restricted or not.
 
If he can use Susano he stomps, Shigaraki has no win con against a High 6-B. Hence why it should be restricted since Sasuke has win cons against a High 6-C.
I'm confused. Isn't your whole argument that none of what Sasuke does can stop him?
Ten thousand kilometer radius blast, it dies. Show me Garuda dodging Ten thousand Kilometer diameter cone blasts.
How often does he drop 10km radius blasts?
 
I'm confused. Isn't your whole argument that none of what Sasuke does can stop him?

How often does he drop 10km radius blasts?
You literally haven’t read my arguments. Sasuke can win with Genjutsu like I said, he just needs to actually hit it and use the astral dive version. The issue presented is that he will never get that chance due to range difference and won’t think to do so cause he has no idea about the multiple minds.

They are his first attack after decay wave as shown in the S&S fight where it was his first move against a flying opponent. He spams Air Cannon it is literally his main offensive Quirk.
 
Not every Air Cannon is a 10km radius cone, how often does he use that?
Specifically Heavy Payload + Air Cannon is the 10km radius attack. He used it once as an opener but AFO used it constantly in an inferior body. He did so because Star was flying and Shigaraki was in control, so he wanted to kill her immediately.
 
The size of an Air Cannon appears to be situational, he did use a smaller-scale one against when an opponent is human-sized and close in range. When there's distance or in need of it he uses larger blasts.
 
The size of an Air Cannon appears to be situational, he did use a smaller-scale one against when an opponent is human-sized and close in range. When there's distance or in need of it he uses larger blasts.
Yes, normal Air Cannon can vary but is typically only at most a hundred meters. Heavy Payload + Air Cannon makes it scrape across the ocean while he’s above the clouds in the stratosphere.
 
What’s the point in restricting the Senjutsu Susanoo when Sasuke can use the perfect Susanoo which is stronger and can avoid Shigiraki’s main method of attacking?
 
Senjutsu susanoo and perfect susanoo is restricted. Not normal susanoo
He one shots the non-perfect susano. And from all the arguments above that he DOES have perfect Susano, you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t believe that that’s what others think.
 
I'm wandering how air canons would hit sasuke when they have equal speed and sasuke has much higher speed with chidori, shunshin and an even higher reaction with sharingan
 
Specifically Heavy Payload + Air Cannon is the 10km radius attack. He used it once as an opener but AFO used it constantly in an inferior body. He did so because Star was flying and Shigaraki was in control, so he wanted to kill her immediately.
Ok, so AFO would use that, but Shigaraki typically doesn't?
 
Even if it doesn't melt him, couldn't Sasuke just blind Shiggy by Amaterasu-ing his face? That would be a banger wincon.
 
He one shots the non-perfect susano. And from all the arguments above that he DOES have perfect Susano, you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t believe that that’s what others think.
His decay is not ap basedbast duraneg. I'm just telling you that it would protect him from decay if he decides not to jump
 
I'm wandering how air canons would hit sasuke when they have equal speed and sasuke has much higher speed with chidori, shunshin and an even higher reaction with sharingan
Ten thousand kilometer radius. I would need a showing for Sasuke dodging that when, from his POV, the attack is coming at him relatively fast. It would cross the distance between them near instantly. And all of those options depend on him being on the ground where he dies to decay.
Ok, so AFO would use that, but Shigaraki typically doesn't?
Shigaraki’s first move against Star was this attack. So no, he does use it because it’s useful.
Even if it doesn't melt him, couldn't Sasuke just blind Shiggy by Amaterasu-ing his face? That would be a banger wincon.
He would heal his eyes and he doesn’t need them anyway. He was reduced to a skeleton with his eyes being liquified in his skull and had perfect vision, he does not physically need them.
 
His decay is not ap basedbast duraneg. I'm just telling you that it would protect him from decay if he decides not to jump
It would decay the ground underneath him and kill him anyway, Susano defense doesn’t cover the ground beneath you as has been shown several times in the series. Gaara used sand under Madara’s feet while his susano was up.
 
Ten thousand kilometer radius. I would need a showing for Sasuke dodging that when, from his POV, the attack is coming at him relatively fast. It would cross the distance between them near instantly. And all of those options depend on him being on the ground where he dies to decay.
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The radius does not matter. What matters is the attack is coming to sasuke and he dodges. From his point of view it is not coming really fast guess why? The dude attack speed is much slower than sasuke reaction and perception speed. Like much slower.
And no sasuke doesn't need to be on the ground. He dodged danzo air canon 3 times while being in the air and that was with just ms and not ems.
Lastly sasuke can just summon his hawk and stay in the air after jumping
 
Ten thousand kilometer radius. I would need a showing for Sasuke dodging that when, from his POV, the attack is coming at him relatively fast. It would cross the distance between them near instantly.
EMS Sasuke is faster than base Sasuke, and has way better perception, it would not be moving incredibly fast in comparison. He could throw up his chakra mech way before getting hit.
And all of those options depend on him being on the ground where he dies to decay.
Shigaraki doesn't Decay and Air Cannon at the same time, why would this be an issue?
Shigaraki’s first move against Star was this attack. So no, he does use it because it’s useful.
So, was that the only time?
He would heal his eyes and he doesn’t need them anyway. He was reduced to a skeleton with his eyes being liquified in his skull and had perfect vision, he does not physically need them.
He still can't see, he's got flames in his face. That said, when did he show perfect vision with no eyes?
 
It would decay the ground underneath him and kill him anyway, Susano defense doesn’t cover the ground beneath you as has been shown several times in the series. Gaara used sand under Madara’s feet while his susano was up.
That's when you summon only the head and not the full body with legs. Try again please
 
The radius does not matter. What matters is the attack is coming to sasuke and he dodges. From his point of view it is not coming really fast guess why? The dude attack speed is much slower than sasuke reaction and perception speed. Like much slower.
And no sasuke doesn't need to be on the ground. He dodged danzo air canon 3 times while being in the air and that was with just ms and not ems.
Lastly sasuke can just summon his hawk and stay in the air after jumping
Ok so he has to cover ten thousand kilometers to dodge the attack while it’s coming at him. In the words of Rock Lee, it doesn’t matter if you can see something coming if you don’t have the capability to avoid it. If I can see into the future and know that a nuclear bomb is going to hit me in 5 seconds, it doesn’t matter if I’m as fast as the bomb. Both characters are moving at Sub-Rel speeds.

Air Cannon covered more distance than Star&Stripe in a shorter time frame when she jumped off her buddies jet. It is absolutely faster than Shigaraki’s base speed, as any propelled projectile should be.

Danzo’s Air cannons are tiny compared to Heavy Payload + Air Cannon so Sasuke will not dodge it.

The Hawk also dies to Air Cannon and doesn’t have Sasuke’s sharingan to immediately start dodging.
EMS Sasuke is faster than base Sasuke, and has way better perception, it would not be moving incredibly fast in comparison. He could throw up his chakra mech way before getting hit.

Shigaraki doesn't Decay and Air Cannon at the same time, why would this be an issue?

So, was that the only time?

He still can't see, he's got flames in his face. That said, when did he show perfect vision with no eyes?
Speed equal and susano gets one shot

He uses Decay, sees Sasuke flying, uses Heavy Payload + Air Cannon.

Yes, it was his first and only time as every other time after that he has had no reason to use it or been nerfed to not use it.

AFO has multiple unnamed Quirks that give him sight without his eyes and he transferred them all to Shigaraki. Search for instance does not need eyesight for you to sense where you enemy is. He jumped to Star and was bouncing between fighter jets while his eyes were still destroyed from the laser spear.
 
That's when you summon only the head and not the full body with legs. Try again please
What on earth does this even mean. It is decaying the ground itself. Sasuke would just start falling into a pit and get nuked even harder if he stays on the ground and anything he touches other than Susano would kill him. Summoning the head does not stop the ground from killing him.
 
What on earth does this even mean. It is decaying the ground itself. Sasuke would just start falling into a pit and get nuked even harder if he stays on the ground and anything he touches other than Susano would kill him. Summoning the head does not stop the ground from killing him.
If he summons the full body, he doesn't need to touch the ground. Pretty obvious what they meant.
 
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