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The End All Be All of Fire Force Revision Threads!
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Sonoftanavast9
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While I will probably create another thread.
I should say there is no 2-C feats.
For 2-C you need the existence of 2 universal sized structure.
There is only one here.
Also you can physically travel through the two planes. (Sho and shinra)
And lastly, since my thread on tier 2 has passed and will be applied probably later today, there was no direct creation or destruction of a universe across all of time. In fact there was no affecting of a universe across all of time. So this is not a tier 2 feat.
Adolla affected the universe through reality warping.
And if we are to say there are 2 universes merging which there are none, unless the merge is happening across all of time, it will still be a 3-A feat since their space is what became one.
I guess what I am saying is that even if the thread is passed, it still at most qualifies for tier 3 and not tier 2
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Honestly, this. Unless, for whatever reason, it just merges at that specific instance of time and diverges again from that point onward, which is asinine.
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Adolla is not a universal construct, it is humanity despair., And the world of adolla is not universe sized even the OP acknowledges that he has no proof of that
And again what I said, unless the merge is happening across all of time it is not tier 2, what we have was the world of adolla becoming one with earth, well let's say the universe. The physical space became one with each other, that is tier 3.
Merging the physical space of two universes that are not temporally separate is of what tier?
Second question, when did reality warping start scaling to AP?
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This whole thread has gone over Adolla being a universal construct repeatedly, and evidently, the staff have deemed the evidence sufficient.
As Planck said, unless they merge at one point in time and then split afterwards, this is 2-C
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He didn't mention AP tho?
Also the merge involves significantly affecting, so yeah
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Given that Adolla and the FF universe are completely separate from one another, I'm in agreement with this. Might be a bit pretentious of me to say, but if nothing new is brought forward, this might just turn into stonewalling
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actually it has not, what has always been argued was how it affected the universe
This is for branching timelines, they are not different timelines, they are the same timeline
They are not disconnected realities, they are actually the same reality, well I will let @Maitreya explain that anyway
It is not desparation, it is simply asking some questions. the one I asked you been
What is the tier for merging two physical universe sized space?
They are actually not separate from one another and this is dishonest as you have also seen FF.
Adolla is the humanity despair from the past from the same universe. The word completely separate is not true
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3-A. Whatever. Assuming they're just the same space but separated by distance or whatever.
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If they weren't separate from each other, them merging wouldn't be a thing, and that would especially not be the big deal that it's treated as within Fire Force
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I'm of the belief that there's sufficient proof of them being completely disconnected from one another. Thus, I'm sticking with 2-C
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Yeah I said that like a few responses ago... I think the border's been crossed my dude. The evidence is there for 2-C and many staff have agreed on it so I feel like 2-C should just be taken as the accepted conclusion
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Question: Would this support the idea of 2-C.
Adolla itself is regarded as higher Plane of existence (an alternative translations was dimension), with it encompassing the concepts of higher planes and mathematics. It is also referred to the transcendental world ("transcendence of the otherworld") with it also having being stated to command all things. When it comes to Shinrabanshoman, it is said that he wields the power of all of creation, with it also being stated that using imagination and the power of god he formed all of creation (referring to him recreating the earth, sun and universal concepts like death). It is also stated that imagination can create and erase all possibilities.
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Low 2-C bozo
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Nah, now we wait 2 days of grace because new rule of not letting CRTs be applied until then.
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Stonewalling would be me delaying to answer questions or arguments or been obstructive of arguments. I am not doing either, in fact I made no new argument, simply ask questions and explained the parts that you are missing up since you also said at first that what you read was the OP and also the last summary, which is also a summary of the OP points btw. So stop with the false accusations.
Again I will say this, you are leavign things out, the point of the merging was to turn the earth into another sun, not the way you are putting it.
So it is kind of a big deal since if the humans idea came to pass, everyone dies.
Converting this planet into a sun
Then this world will be a second sun
Great cataclysm completion, and simply planet of flames
The birth of second sun
The great cataclysm now completed
The great cataclysm completion again
And the planet of water became the star.
The earth has become the sun
Only ones left on earth
Second sun
To the planet of black despair
PrinceofPein
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Anyway, you can still count me as disagree, lets see if anything happens between the grace period. or till the next thread
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Bit premature to try and make a discussion rule after one CRT has been accepted on it.
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If Pain makes another CRT with the same exact rejected arguments from this thread and brings nothing new to the table, then it should be a matter of closing the thread on the spot. No need to make a discussion rule unless Pain becomes insistent with it and makes the thread over and over and over again.
It's not like we bar certain verse topics from having CRTs made based on what off-site people think if it doesn't enter our forum territory. It only comes into play if it's made on our forum.
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The goal isn't doesn't limit the method. The goal of the white clad is to turn the earth into a second sun, however, that is done through the merging of Adolla and the universe, affecting the rest of the universe such as the moon, stars and laws etc... They achieved their goal (earth-sun) but in the process they also affected the rest of the universe.
If a persons goal is to blow up the earth but ends up blowing the solar system when doing so, is that only planet level cause the goal was to blow up earth? No the feat is still Solar system level. Same here the feat of merging the Adolla dimension with the universe would be Low 2-C/2-C still regardless of the intended result.
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Bro just stop. Burning the earth is only one aspect of the cataclysm which involves the image of earth in adolla. Everything else is equally as relevant when it comes to the merger. Like i said earlier the actual sun was born through a cataclysm so how can adolla only be planetary?
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Ok we have 2 official staff member agreements on just straight universal Fire Force along with multiple other CGM agreeing as well.
There is no disagreements from staff
and now….finally after so long if debating….
There is no disagreements from staff
literally couldn’t of done it without the lot of you right behind me. @Dalesean027 @InfiniteDay @Deceived3596 @Arnoldstone18 kings
and now….finally after so long if debating….
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you made itOk we have 2 official staff member agreements on just straight universal Fire Force along with multiple other CGM agreeing as well.
There is no disagreements from staff
literally couldn’t of done it without the lot of you right behind me. @Dalesean027 @InfiniteDay @Deceived3596 @Arnoldstone18 kings
and now….finally after so long if debating….
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