Team Fortress 2 possible AP upgrade

[Abstractions]

But why exactly? Of course the "same thing applies to me" when I'm revising my a verse on my own, that's obvious. But I'm not involved here, so you telling me that makes no sense.

I know perfectly well what it means.

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

But why exactly? Of course the "same thing applies to me" when I'm revising my a verse on my own, that's obvious. But I'm not involved here, so you telling me that makes no sense.
I know perfectly well what it means.

.-.

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

Bruh.

 

[ThisLadWithTheCrowBar-5.1]

Bruh.

You both are completely missing the point.

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

The point is done. Just waiting someone collaborate and create a revision, because in half suck with these things.

 

[ThisLadWithTheCrowBar-5.1]

The point is done. Just waiting someone collaborate and create a revision, because in half suck with these things.

Alright.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I might be partial to this if any chracters actually tank Merasmus' magic in the comics/story.

Otherwise it's mostly just gameplay, and even then like it's stated above it takes two entire teams wailing on him for a very long time to kill him.

 

[The_Smashor]

I'd assume Merasmus has directly tried to kill Solider at some point or another.

Also Solider should have Type 4 Immortality instead of type 3, as should Merasmus.

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

I might be partial to this if any chracters actually tank Merasmus' magic in the comics/story.
Otherwise it's mostly just gameplay, and even then like it's stated above it takes two entire teams wailing on him for a very long time to kill him.

I already said 3000 times that Merasmus is not much explored in the comics, and he just appears to fool around and do random, stupid things with Soldier. Merasmus dont have much feats, but the mercenaries have.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I already said 3000 times that Merasmus is not much explored in the comics, and he just appears to fool around and do random, stupid things with Soldier. Merasmus dont have much feats, but the mercenaries have.

I read through the thread.

My post was agreeing with you.

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

I already said 3000 times that Merasmus is not much explored in the comics, and he just appears to fool around and do random, stupid things with Soldier. Merasmus dont have much feats, but the mercenaries have.

I read through the thread.
My post was agreeing with you.

You are a staff so its more easier to talk with another staff, alert them to do a huge revision on the TF2 characters because its like 5 years the characters have a 9-A tier and its totally wrong basing on the feats

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Im still against it scaling to anything combat applicable

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

Im still against it scaling to anything combat applicable

Only seeing the cinematics or reading the comics you will see theres no chance of them being only 9-A.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What feats other than Merasmus' creation feat do they have?

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

What feats other than Merasmus' creation feat do they have?

Forget about Merasmus. Im saying about the Mercs. Explain to me, Saxton hale Is the meme version of Chuck Norris inside tf2 universe, he just explode a 8ft Yeti into 2000 pieces with a punch, uses scout as a bat and can still fight with both Scout and Heavy who can wrestle bears 3x bigger than him. Scout in the cinematics and in the comics can fight with them too and survive like nothing happened. Dont forget in meet the medic he tanked 3 point blank soldier rockets while already injured, flew crushing to the Medic's base and survived normally. First off all how this makes him only 9-A in durability? Considering the Soldier can one shot demoman with a shotgun and one shot a spy with a shovel, Scout being 9-A for surviving the rockets dont make a minimum of sense.

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

Also the thing about Scout double-jump, while other games use a excuse for this character ability (like capes, parkour moves, backflips etc), Scout literally jumps in the mid air using his speed with no excusion to that, how is this not a reality warp? Since to do this you need to rewrite the laws of physics because you are breaking all of the Newton's rules possibles

 

[The_Smashor]

Herker. Being TF2 Chuck Norris dosn't improve AP. I doubt the yeti punch is above 9-A.

As for reality warping, no. Just no.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Then being references means nothing. What actual feats do they have?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also the rocket feat would likely be 9-B looking st it again, scput didnt take the full blast, only part of it

 

[ThisLadWithTheCrowBar-5.1]

Herker. Being TF2 Chuck Norris dosn't improve AP. I doubt the yeti punch is above 9-A.
As for reality warping, no. Just no.


lso the rocket feat would likely be 9-B looking st it again, scput didnt take the full blast, only part of it

As for the reality warping part yes this sounds utterly absurd, the Yeti part to me does sound like complete downplay that Yeti might be a lot stronger then you think, as for taking missiles to the face, please keep in mind that before the assault he was already battered up and bruised when he took that but I guess somehow that doesn't change anything now does it?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Only seeing the cinematics or reading the comics you will see theres no chance of them being only 9-A.

I also feel like the speed is exaggerated significantly here.

I have no clue why we have Scout as MHS with Bonk! when he isn't even moving to dodge bullets. If anything it's more of an intangibility or invulnerability.

 

[The_Smashor]

The Cow Mangler vaporizes people, which is 9-A. Other weapons are compareable to it.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

The Cow Mangler vaporizes people, which is 9-A. Other weapons are compareable to it.

The Cow Mangler vaporizes people after hitting them a significant number of times and lowering their health, if we're going by gameplay.

 

[Wokistan]

Bonk outright says dodge on it when it happens.

9-A comes from the energy weapons (Cow mangler, Phlog, Bison, Phompson) being able to vaporize the heavy, who is significantly bigger than a normal person. Some real life rocket launchers are this tier too.

 

[The_Smashor]

@Dargoo

Vaporizing a corpse is 9-A. Vaporization is vaporization.

 

[Wokistan]

Mangler can one shot scouts with the charge shot. Doesn't the machina reskin also do it?

 

[The_Smashor]

Yeah (Though it's slightly different)

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

Only seeing the cinematics or reading the comics you will see theres no chance of them being only 9-A.

I also feel like the speed is exaggerated significantly here.
I have no clue why we have Scout as MHS with Bonk! when he isn't even moving to dodge bullets. If anything it's more of an intangibility or invulnerability.

You dont know about TF2 lore and dont play the game, dont you? Bonk makes Scouts so fast that he can dodge everything.

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

Also the rocket feat would likely be 9-B looking st it again, scput didnt take the full blast, only part of it

Are you freaking kidding me? References and not feats? Bruh. You are just complaining about my comments and not giving a useful explanation to this. How the freak the rocket feat is 9-B if the soldier is 9-A? also he not tanked the blast only but the whole rockets. You cleary need to rewatch the curta. Now you gonna say to me that the Yeti feat is 9-B too?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because Scout did not take the full brunt of the explosion, only part of it, therefore the feat would be lesser as per the Inverse Square Law

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

Herker. Being TF2 Chuck Norris dosn't improve AP. I doubt the yeti punch is above 9-A.
As for reality warping, no. Just no.


lso the rocket feat would likely be 9-B looking st it again, scput didnt take the full blast, only part of it

As for the reality warping part yes this sounds utterly absurd, the Yeti part to me does sound like complete downplay that Yeti might be a lot stronger then you think, as for taking missiles to the face, please keep in mind that before the assault he was already battered up and bruised when he took that but I guess somehow that doesn't change anything now does it?

Yes. jumping in mid air is a Reality Warp since you are breaking the logics of the laws and pyshics. But if the moderators say no then is no. ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»

 

[Wokistan]

This sort of logic makes literally any supernatural power reality warping. He isn't gonna get reality warping off a literal double jump. You really need to calm down.

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

Because Scout did not take the full brunt of the explosion, only part of it, therefore the feat would be lesser as per the Inverse Square Law

Still no explanation. 9-B feat while Soldier is 9-A = 3 Rockets Small Building Level? Rewatch the meet the medic curta, all of the rockets hitted Scout and is cleary visible if you pause the video around 0:14.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Genji (Overwatch) gets RW wen?

 

[Eficiente]

@TheLegendaryHerker I suggest you to change that attitude and be more reasonable.

 

[Wokistan]

The soldier being 9-A in the first place is what's being called into question though.

 

[Jackythejack]

Is there any real consensus here or has this thread just kinda been spiraling down?

 

[TheLegendaryHerker]

This sort of logic makes literally any supernatural power reality warping. He isn't gonna get reality warping off a literal double jump. You really need to calm down.

The power page itself says: Users can rewrite the laws of physics and then change them back in an instant To double jump you need to do that, as i stated above."This sort of logic makes literally any supernatural power reality warping" no. Not all of the supernatural things is directly considered reality warping.

 

[Jackythejack]

Ah it's spiraling down I see.

 

[Wokistan]

Scout isn't being proved to rewrite the laws of physics though. You don't even need to do that to double jump.

There's quite a lot of powers that let you just create energy. We aren't giving everyone with that reality warping, that would be ridiculous.