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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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garou started training in his childhood (or youth idk?) and still, was lower than 7-b+ until 18 years.
saitama reached tectonic level in less than 1 year of training.
buuuut, theorically garou's evolution became WAY FASTER than in-training saitama, jumped from 7-b to 5-c faster than what saitama did (in one day), meanwhile took 1 year+ for saitama to reach tatsumaki's level according to fubuki (she didnt exactly say this but anyway)
in this level, i think that garou's RE would've became even faster after more training, and in a few years would be stronger than saitama
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i can't understand, honestly
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i see, understood now
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The best thing about being OPM fan that you don't need all this bullshit
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Damn, that’s pretty good.
Recon1511
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Imagine if Psykorochi and Tatsumaki became 5-B before Saitama could
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Is it the one where she and Genos clash and there's a giant energy ball in the sky?
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Well, that wouldn’t have happened, because we’d just scale Saitama above TatsImagine if Psykorochi and Tatsumaki became 5-B before Saitama could
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No, I calced that a couple months ago and it was Low 6-B iirc
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I think he meant they got a 5-B feat before Saitama himself could get one
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Water shenanigans.
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We’d have probably updated Saitama’s profile before theirsImagine if Psykorochi and Tatsumaki became 5-B before Saitama could
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We should have a minimum multiplier for one shotting
The idea of verses with one shot difference requirements being too low is a made up issue. There is never gonna be a verse where being 1.5 times stronger is gonna result in a one shot. If we had a minimum multiplier for AP stomping and one shotting then Garou would have already been 3-C by now. Yet another missed opportunity of the wiki’s own creation
The idea of verses with one shot difference requirements being too low is a made up issue. There is never gonna be a verse where being 1.5 times stronger is gonna result in a one shot. If we had a minimum multiplier for AP stomping and one shotting then Garou would have already been 3-C by now. Yet another missed opportunity of the wiki’s own creation
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I’m pretty sure it would have broken once he completely became a monster but the latest it could have broken was recovering from his monster form being shattered by Saitama’s punch right before he got healed and became cosmic. Without having a removed limiter he wouldn’t be able to reach Saitama’s strength so, it’s pretty much objectively proven at this point
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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It ain't proven yet tho.
Oliver_de_jesus
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Yeah no, that’s not happening. Not only are you incorrect because Vegeta and Cui arguably had a smaller difference than 1.5x and Cui still got one-shot, a one-shot multiplier would be so easily abused.
Oliver_de_jesus
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Depends on the mechanics of one-shotting. A boxer can OHKO someone equal or stronger than them with a well landed punch in the right place.
If you mean reliably one-shot even through a hit in the chest then 7.5x would be it, assuming the other character has no regen or immortality type 2.
If you mean reliably one-shot even through a hit in the chest then 7.5x would be it, assuming the other character has no regen or immortality type 2.
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And the 7.5x one-shot difference for versus matches is getting revised as far as I can tell.
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Revised to what
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I don’t know if there’s a consensus yet, but here’s the thread.
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Not sure what the context is but the fact that Vegeta one shot that person would mean he really wasn’t that close in strength
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There was only a 1.3x difference in their power levels so-
Apeironaxim
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Vegeta on Namek had a PL of 19,000-24,000, with Dodoria having a PL of 22,000. Vegeta one shot Dodoria. Even assuming he was at the highest end at 24,000, that is still a 1.09x difference
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Didn’t krillin also one shot like multiple saibamen and he wasn’t too much stronger than them power wise either right.
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Power levels aren’t recognize as a linear thing from what I can tell
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Yeah, Krillin (with a PL of 1,770) one-shot three Saibamen (with a PL of 1,200-1,500).
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People say that, but Kaioken and Super Saiyan multiply power levels and are recognized as linear kek
Apeironaxim
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Goku had a PL of 3 mil when fighting Frieza, and turning Super Saiyan, which is a 50x multiplier, got him a PL of 150 mil
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Actually I remember the evidence in the crt being about “battle power gets amplified” or something like that
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Also it’s important to know that power level isn’t even static either, even just charging an attack would make the power of the attack greater than the actual user of said attack
and power level gets changed or concealed all the time with rage amps and stuff. It’s just not reliable.
and power level gets changed or concealed all the time with rage amps and stuff. It’s just not reliable.
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That’s not always the case, only specific attacks like the Kamehameha or Makankosappo have been shown to do that. And Vegeta didn’t use an attack like that on Cui or Dodoria, he was extremely casual in both scenarios.
Amps and suppression weren’t factors here either, Vegeta’s official power level at the time was 24,000, Cui’s official power level was 18,000 and Dodoria’s official power level was 22,000. Dragon Ball just has one-shots even when the characters don’t have that much of a power difference. So a universal one-shot multiplier for scaling ain’t gonna work.
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In fact, there is, outside Dragon Ball, we have Devil May Cry for example
The wiki is around for many years, this discussion was debated a lot before
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First of all, this still doesn't mean that power levels are seen as linear or consistent on the wiki either way
secondly, obviously if a way a specific verse worked was completely contradicting how the wiki assumes, then of course the verse would take precedence. The suggestion was geared towards a multiplier that would be used until proven otherwise
