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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

The last time I saw this amount of cope for a result on a Thread was...DMC 3-A upgrades I think, like 3 years ago. I know you guys didn't liked the verdict, I also have my problems with it, but the CRT was there and it was rejected, stop acting as if it was a decision made by a group of fools when it wasn't

Instead, try to think about other ways to make a second CRT, sometimes you just need to turn your thinking around and I believe a strong case can be done for Garou
 
Lightning_XXI said:
The last time I saw this amount of cope for a result on a Thread was...DMC 3-A upgrades I think, like 3 years ago. I know you guys didn't liked the verdict, I also have my problems with it, but the CRT was there and it was rejected, stop acting as if it was a decision made by a group of fools when it wasn't

Instead, try to think about other ways to make a second CRT, sometimes you just need to turn your thinking around and I believe a strong case can be done for Garou
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It's not cope, the decision was made due to standards even when it defies all logic provided by the manga itself. It was plain stupid, it's just that simple.
 
Honestly, i can see quite a dew upgrades when (if) a new databook on Monster Association arc comes out, will take many years, however.
 
Lightning_XXI said:
The last time I saw this amount of cope for a result on a Thread was...DMC 3-A upgrades I think, like 3 years ago. I know you guys didn't liked the verdict, I also have my problems with it, but the CRT was there and it was rejected, stop acting as if it was a decision made by a group of fools when it wasn't

Instead, try to think about other ways to make a second CRT, sometimes you just need to turn your thinking around and I believe a strong case can be done for Garou
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? I don’t think too many people here who disagree are being like “they’re all a bunch of fools cause they disagree with us.” Besides like 1 person lol.

At least whenever I try and comment on the matter I simply explain why I believe my positions to be more logical in a reasonable manner and why I find the counters to be more unreasonable. But each time I say it’s whatever in the end since the positions were argued about and a consensus was agreed upon. That doesn’t mean I still can’t think they’re wrong in the positions or comment about it, but I still accept the results and consensus either way. And I was the one who made the damn CRT in the first place and argued about it the most.

The also issue is that there really can be no second CRT for Garou in specific or another case to be made for him since the consensus of the CRT fundamentally shifts how power mimicry in relation to AP is viewed on the wiki.
 
The reason the wiki is so strict is to make sure things remain as factually accurate as possible
of course, our genius and awesome standards result in Garou’s most potent by far and insanely powerful technique to copy AP, essentially 100% useless for anything 0.0001 joules values above his AP, even in spite of the author building up the fact that Garou has no limit repeatedly, it still gets squashed by “no limits” not being allowed according to the standards. Yes, this surely represents the character more accurately, because stricter always = better.
I think this is just one of many situations where some fundamental problem with the wiki is revealing itself.
 
In the manga: “now that I can copy any power I see without limit, I can even have the power of the previously godlike Saitama”

The wiki: “now that he can copy power, he can do absolutely nothing”

this is this best way to represent this conundrum in my eyes
 
Eh, ya win some ya lose some.

Doesn’t mean you can’t think your points to still be more true or valid, but like….eh
 
Tbh any ability that does not have directly stated limits in the wiki tends to be trash. Reactive evolution as a whole only serves to get higher degrees of resistance to abilities you either have already shown resistance or gained resistance in later keys (wich is why earlier keys Rimuru is overpowered.), unless your RE gave you resistance to something really broken like conceptual manipulation or time manip wich makes it 4-D (and even then you need a decent amount of other miscellaneous resistances to be able to resist other haxes.)
Get's even worse with AP based Accelerated development, since it's only good if a character has grown from X to Y in a key. Like, Simon from Gurren Lagann has one of the best AD in the wiki and it's 100% useless because while he went from like High 6-A to (11-D) High 1-C it's too much of a stretch to assume he could even grow to 12-D. Garou's AD in 5-C will probably get treated as almost useless since he's never been stated to not have an upper limiter like Saitama.
 
The thing that pisses me off the most is how there were like a million different evidences for 3-C garou
The sp^2 itself can’t be decisively proven to have destroyed 0 galaxies even with the given arguments, it’s technically entirely possible that it was a 3-B feat even. The graph would have also would have bumped them up to way more than baseline 3-C had it been accepted, but of course that thread started quite poorly (trash OP) and didn’t get accepted
And now this, which was probably the final chance. There’s technically no evidence that Garou can’t copy 3-A, but again the profiles will never acknowledge the existence of anything that isn’t the lowball. Even Garou’s most extremely important ability to copy AP in character has been lowballed to being literally not even an ability he has available. This is, scientifically speaking, a rapid fire series of complete bullshit threads.
Epiccheev said:
Garou's AD in 5-C will probably get treated as almost useless since he's never been stated to not have an upper limiter like Saitama.
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There’s strong evidence that he has broken his limiter too, but either way, the counterarguments in the garou copying 3-A thread already had assumed he had a removed limiter, and now limiters in general have essentially been made useless as far as the wiki sees it.
 
When Saitama was using less than 5-B AP Garou was copying him perfectly and when Saitama went straight from throwing under 5-B punches to ******* highend 4-A punch Garou also copied that 4-A punch perfectly without any problem, but him coping something less than 20 times stronger like baseline 3-C noooooo this is NLF

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Epiccheev said:
Honestly, i can see quite a dew upgrades when (if) a new databook on Monster Association arc comes out, will take many years, however.
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Season 3 is gonna release in 2023 or early 2024 and the databook will definitely come with it but it will only cover events in the anime and a few manga things on the printed volumes.

I hope we get some pages explaining the limiter or something I dunno.
 
UltimateDarkGod666 said:
When Saitama was using less than 5-B AP Garou was copying him perfectly and when Saitama went straight from throwing under 5-B punches to ******* highend 4-A punch Garou also copied that 4-A punch perfectly without any problem, but him coping something less than 20 times stronger like baseline 3-C noooooo this is NLF

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peak vbw
 
UltimateDarkGod666 said:
When Saitama was using less than 5-B AP Garou was copying him perfectly and when Saitama went straight from throwing under 5-B punches to ******* highend 4-A punch Garou also copied that 4-A punch perfectly without any problem, but him coping something less than 20 times stronger like baseline 3-C noooooo this is NLF

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Doesn't this also mean Saitama can't face 3-C characters because his AD hasn't been shown to go beyond 4-A using this logic? 💀
 
Recon1511 said:
Doesn't this also mean Saitama can't face 3-C characters because his AD hasn't been shown to go beyond 4-A using this logic? 💀
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I dunno, the thread was about Power Mimicry right ? AD is a different ability and works differently

Use the standards to your side, be smart
 
just
Coomandar said:
what's Garou AP's value?
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saw it, he is 558 TeraFoe.
also, if the graph makes him atleast 20 times stronger, shouldnt garou be atleast 10 zetafoe?
i just did 558 x 20 idk if's right, i dont even know how stronger he got using the graph
i mean, if this is right theres no reason why he couldnt copy a baseline 3-c character
 
Ngl I feel like the whole limiter concept was just flat out ignored with Cosmic Fear Mode's introduction

Idk how you can say CFM Garou's limiter wasn't broken after seeing him match a full power Saitama and forcing him to evolve

Unless now limiter concept was just reduced to having some reactive evolution
 
Coomandar said:
God wants to kill saitama bc he did break his limiter, idk why god would break garou's limiter just to garou become another threat to him (god)
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Because God can instantly kill Garou by "forfeiting" his powers so he is in complete control even if Garou broke his limiter
 
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