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their plot manip needs proof of affecting NEP and nondualityHow would Shiva and the Pokemon characters counter Bugs and Yakko's Plot Manipulation?
Its not a NLF for NEP aslong as no narrative NEPtheir plot manip needs proof of affecting NEP and nonduality
otherwise its just a fat NLF
Just a heads up: I'm not saying it will happen or pass, but apparently evidence has been found by Looney Tunes bros that suggests that Bugs and Yakko might actually be 6-D at some point in the future so if that happens then Heroes loses regardless if this new downgrade thread passes or notthere is a high chance that dbh characters will lose to looney tunes characters if the downgrade passes
No.Its not a NLF for NEP aslong as no narrative NEP
I mean i still share the same thoughts from then, those aspects of existence are Non existent, while the Narrative Aspect still exist, that Aspect can still be manipulated, even if those other aspects doesnt existNo.
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omega also has passives from this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Edwellken/Anima_Gnosis_Expanded and a lot of these would be 8 layered Could Conceptual/Information Invulnerability help with that? For Kratos it seems to be a one of the reasons he winsvsbattles.com
Hope is a concept innately superior to the Evils, which are superior to Primordials, whom are Type 1 concepts. Fear Zeus couldn't do anything to it despite being able to absorb magic (which he did with Gaia) and Kratos himself has resistance to conceptual absorption.can he absorb hope if longinus can affect cm 1 on a Low 1-C level
How many layers Kratos has...5? He isn't doing jackshit to 8 layersHope is a concept innately superior to the Evils, which are superior to Primordials, whom are Type 1 concepts. Fear Zeus couldn't do anything to it despite being able to absorb magic (which he did with Gaia) and Kratos himself has resistance to conceptual absorption.
Worst comes to worst, it works for a slight bit before Kratos adapts and negates it.
6 and he adapts to hax and gains layers mid fight. He's pretty much fine here.How many layers Kratos has...5? He isn't doing jackshit to 8 layers
He can't adapt if he gets oneshotten by something 2 layers higher than him6 and he adapts to hax and gains layers mid fight. He's pretty much fine here.
the creator from w101 is already on the listThe Player (Wizard101)
The Player is the primary protagonist of the MMORPG Wizard101. Originating from a world outside the Spiral, where people don't believe magic exists, he was brought into the Ravenwood School of Magical Arts by Headmaster Ambrose. The wizard was later revealed to be the Child of Light and Shadow...vsbattles.fandom.com
The Player could probably be above Doomslayer. Not sure about everyone else
He don't.sora obviously stomps characters from DBH now
the main reason why dbh characters won is because of layered cm 1 and info manip no? they dont have that anymoreHe don't.
in the sonic vs goku thread, apparently it is out of character for goku for example to use EEYou do realize DBH characters still have layered hax and Sora doesn't right? Especially with EE on a history level that Sora has no regen towards so he'd die against anyone who's gungho on EE.
Who said it was out of character?in the sonic vs goku thread, apparently it is out of character for goku for example to use EE
the bronic guyWho said it was out of character?
Essence is the soul/concept of any particular thing, which gives everything a shape and meaning. All things that exist have their essence birthed in the sea of souls, an infinite plane that is in truth the essence of reality itself. It is the "material of creation" that governs the very foundation of reality and causality.Hope is a concept innately superior to the Evils, which are superior to Primordials, whom are Type 1 concepts. Fear Zeus couldn't do anything to it despite being able to absorb magic (which he did with Gaia) and Kratos himself has resistance to conceptual absorption.
kratos would need to survive 8+ layers of conceptual soul bs but can easily one shot himWorst comes to worst, it works for a slight bit before Kratos adapts and negates it.
1. Kratos can like, do anything and Omega dies. And he can also nullify the latter's powers with a thought. Or pause him in time. Or BFR him etc.Essence is the soul/concept of any particular thing, which gives everything a shape and meaning. All things that exist have their essence birthed in the sea of souls, an infinite plane that is in truth the essence of reality itself. It is the "material of creation" that governs the very foundation of reality and causality.
The laws of the natural world are also governed by the Soul Flux.
The Flux is the plane where concepts and ideas are born. A sea of infinite potential, it holds concepts yet to even exist. When a being dies, their essence returns to the sea. All that ever was, is, or will be, can be found within it. The only exception to this rule, are beings that have their souls destroyed, and the select few who transcend the Soul Flux in its entirety.
Magic is a fundamental element of existence that can alter the essence of reality, being a force that is beyond all belief and philosophy, shapes life, gives rise to dreams, acts as the essence/concept of everything, and is the basis for every other kind of energy, action, and reaction. Magic encompasses all elements of creation and can influence the Soul Flux
would this be enough to interact with hope?
kratos would need to survive 8+ layers of conceptual soul bs but can easily one shot him
thats why i was thinking it might be incon
I thought Kratos' starting move was to go for info analysis1. Kratos can like, do anything and Omega dies. And he can also nullify the latter's powers with a thought. Or pause him in time. Or BFR him etc.
kratos having resistance to soul/concept destruction would be ignored since omega has more layers than him. in the verse, someone who has more gnosis (layers) than you ignore the resistance of those at lower levels. kratos has less layers than omega so his resistance would be ignored2. Hope brought him back from soul/concept destruction so add this to his Reactive Evolution's speed and he should survive just fine. He got a layer after a single interaction with Persephone after all.
all i know is that the soul flux is a type 1 concept that gives birth to all other concepts and concepts that define existence. Omega can affect souls on a low 1-c level with longinus3. Is all of that Type 1? For GoW it goes; Souls (Type 1) - > Primordials (Type 1) -> Evils -> Hope. And assuming this doesn't matter, refer to 2.
The information analysis wouldn't work why? And like, it's not some technique he activates. He can just sense/see people's powers and abilities.I thought Kratos' starting move was to go for info analysis
by the time he realizes info analysis isn't working the soul destruction and power absorption would happen coz longinus is a starting move
kratos having resistance to soul/concept destruction would be ignored since omega has more layers than him. in the verse, someone who has more gnosis (layers) than you ignore the resistance of those at lower levels. kratos has less layers than omega so his resistance would be ignored
reactive evolution wont work coz in omegas profile it says, "Certain abilities such Reactive Evolution, Existential Barrier and Null Tempus can be ignored by beings of equal or higher Omega's level of Gnosis". Kratos doesn't have equal or higher layers than Omega so the reactive evolution would be ignored
all i know is that the soul flux is a type 1 concept that gives birth to all other concepts and concepts that define existence. Omega can affect souls on a low 1-c level with longinus
i would have to ask more about the concept stuff to antoniofer but im pretty sure he hates talking about stuff like this
Bruh, all magic in GoW is 5D, that'd include his invulnerability on topIs kratos' conceptual invulnerability 5-D?
i keep forgetting his info analysis is 5dThe information analysis wouldn't work why? And like, it's not some technique he activates. He can just sense/see people's powers and abilities.
only people who have 8 or more layers than omega can bypass his REAnd I know he has lower layers, you don't have to tell me. I'm saying he can and has gained more layers of resistance mid fight, even after having his soul/concept destroyed by Fear.
yes kratos stompsEdit: And once again, this is kinda glossing over the fact that any offensive move Kratos makes will kill or incap Omega.
bro are u oki keep forgetting his info analysis is 5d
only people who have 8 or more layers than omega can bypass his RE
because kratos doesn't have equal to or more layers than omega here, the RE would be ignored unless you can show me kratos gaining 2 layers of resistance from RE?
yes kratos stomps
kratos FRAbro are u ok
You do realize DBH characters still have layered hax and Sora doesn't right? Especially with EE on a history level that Sora has no regen towards so he'd die against anyone who's gungho on EE.
I'm going to single handedly revise Anima and add Exalted so TTRPG can have their glorious days back.bro i think omega wins against sonic
I'm going to single handedly revise Anima and add Exalted so TTRPG can have their glorious days back.
Rn theres anoher thread that will give Cyber Corruption npi, so ig it comes down to if Omega can absorb or block ND/6 Abstract layer Informationbro i think omega wins against sonic