Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

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• Shulk for 2nd place in Low 7-C, as everyone below him gets bounded by Passive Smurf Fate hax that works on Acasuals (With the Acausality actually giving resistances)

The fate hax in question doesn't make him win, it makes him not die, he gets punted by the people on the list or just straight up can't do anything to them (see Gojo, Henry and Meng), and the people in 2nd place are straight up 1-A smurfs so he ain't even touching them, Destiny characters do horrible things to him and do not care about his fate hax

• Characters from Sailor Moon (Manga) for 3rd place in 7-B due to an overwhelming hax advantage Moon herself has over Homura, and due to Type 3 Acausality. Homura has no real way to get rid of her, and 6th place in High 5-A for pretty much the same reason. CM1 to Kang Han Soo and it's GG, and even if Kang's defense mechanism of the Universe dying when he does activates, Moon can just teleport out of his range since it's Low 2-C vs 2-C.

No?
That's just not true when it comes to Homura, she just hits her with the infinite duration timestop that she cannot deal with, into attacks in said time stop that she cannot deal with, and even if she loses, rewind to the start of the fight with all of the knowledge and knows what to do and what not to do, and I genuinely do not see the hax you are talking about here, because Moon doesn't have Concept Hax in these keys, because that's her Complete Power key, and her profile explicitly states she only gets her Original Power stuff

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

The fate hax in question doesn't make him win, it makes him not die, he gets punted by the people on the list or just straight up can't do anything to them (see Gojo, Henry and Meng), and the people in 2nd place are straight up 1-A smurfs so he ain't even touching them, Destiny characters do horrible things to him and do not care about his fate hax

I never said it's an insta win, but it makes it so nothing is going to befall him like death or incapacitation and none of those people you mentioned have resistance to it in Low 7-C. Also said Fate Hax is Tier 1 so can Destiny get by that? He's also got Paralysis+Powernull, Deconstruction with every hit, Resistance Negging, and Passive Smurf Precog and Clairvoyance that ties into Fate Hax which will let him know any and everything Destiny characters try to do to him If 2nd place is 1-A then fine, though the verse page does not mention this. He should be 3rd.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Arifureta characters could take a higher spot in other tiers including Kouki in H6-B, 6-B, maybe L6-B, Badd in 7-B and Kousuke in 8-B.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Final Fantasy XIII has two (technically three) P&A pages worth of hax (Two of which are getting more stuff in the near future)

Link ?

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Link ?

They're gonna go into revision in the very near future. So the current ones are gonna be outdated soon enough anyway.

 

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I never said it's an insta win, but it makes it so nothing is going to befall him like death or incapacitation and none of those people you mentioned have resistance to it in Low 7-C. Also said Fate Hax is Tier 1 so can Destiny get by that? He's also got Paralysis+Powernull, Deconstruction with every hit, Resistance Negging, and Passive Smurf Precog and Clairvoyance that ties into Fate Hax which will let him know any and everything Destiny characters try to do to him If 2nd place is 1-A then fine, though the verse page does not mention this. He should be 3rd.

Deconstruction is resisted, paralysis is either resisted or outright doesn't do anything depending on the character in question, and he ain't nulling shit considering even before talking about resistances literally all destiny powers in this tier are well and beyond what Shulk has shown able to null, and with resistances, well, they just straight up resist with more than enough layers to no sell, resistance neg is resisted, so like, he ain't doing shit

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Deconstruction is resisted, paralysis is either resisted or outright doesn't do anything depending on the character in question, and he ain't nulling shit considering even before talking about resistances literally all destiny powers in this tier are well and beyond what Shulk has shown able to null, and with resistances, well, they just straight up resist with more than enough layers to no sell, resistance neg is resisted, so like, he ain't doing shit

So all of the resistances for the Low 7-C characters tier 1 in potency? I understand that they have Acausality via paracausal powers, but since Type 4 doesn't do anything anymore without a CRT, and their's no scan. I assumed it was outdated(this is strictly in regards to Shulk's smurf passives)

 

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So all of the resistances for the Low 7-C characters tier 1 in potency? I understand that they have Acausality via paracausal powers, but since Type 4 doesn't do anything anymore without a CRT, and because their's no scan. I assumed it was outdated.

???
His offensive shit isn't tier 1, it's only the stuff tied to the passage of fate that is tier 1, which isn't going to actually help him win a fight, that shit is all expressly defensive. Anyways, all the scans are linked in the references, and yeah the type 4 does stuff, it's literally brought up in the resistance section as the reason for stuff, and while it won't let them resist the fate hax, said fate hax won't let him win, and at worse they literally just outlive Shulk, because he doesn't have type 1 immo.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Does Fate working on acausals even matter? Iirc Acausality stuff, even if give resistance, it's just a layer, no?

Additionally, bump again, Wang Wei should be at the 7th spot in 5-B, as he defeats Arthas easily via his aura, PNull, etc... and everyone below him, as well as 4-D layered fate manip that prevents death.

As for 3-C, what are Yhwach's shenanigans? Passive fate or smth?

And for 3-B, what are Bender and supernatural character's stuff? Cuz from what I'm seeing, I don't see what stops WW from instantly killing them.

For 2-C, what are Darkseid and other DC characters stuff? Any passive or Smurf stuff?

don`t know muc about yhwach.

Bender and supernatural characters get stomped they are only here because lack of people for 3B list.

Don`t know much about dc characters

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

???
His offensive shit isn't tier 1, it's only the stuff tied to the passage of fate that is tier 1, which isn't going to actually help him win a fight, that shit is all expressly defensive. Anyways, all the scans are linked in the references, and yeah the type 4 does stuff, it's literally brought up in the resistance section as the reason for stuff, and while it won't let them resist the fate hax, said fate hax won't let him win, and at worse they literally just outlive Shulk, because he doesn't have type 1 immo.

??? I never said all of his offensive stuff was Tier 1. All I asked was are the resistances for Destiny's Low 7-C's Tier 1, that's it

 

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??? I never said all of his offensive stuff was Tier 1. All I asked was are the resistances for Destiny's Low 7-C's Tier 1, that's it

the stuff to stop the fate hax ain't (forgot it was tier 1, was thinking of back when it was tier 2), but it won't actually let him win the fight, just not lose, at best he incons, at worst they just outlive him

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

the stuff to stop the fate hax ain't (forgot it was tier 1, was thinking of back when it was tier 2), but it won't actually let him win the fight, just not lose, at best he incons, at worst they just outlive him

Again, never said it's an insta-win. I was just saying arguing that his passives will work. Also while he himself isn't immortal, but he's got a bit of a Nightmare from Soulcalibur deal going on where if you kill him, this guy comes out. Not trying to argue just pointing it out as a fact.

 

[Rikimarox2]

don`t know muc about yhwach.

Bender and supernatural characters get stomped they are only here because lack of people for 3B list.

Don`t know much about dc characters

Very well, though for 5-B, he should be above Arthas since he defeated WoW dudes in the Non-smurf list iirc.

Regardless, does anyone else know what Yhwach and Soul king first do, and if they have passive stuff or thought-based aside from soul crush?

Edit: Wait, apparently Yhwach's almighty isn't 4-D? If so, then WW blinks.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Moon doesn't have Concept Hax in these keys, because that's her Complete Power key, and her profile explicitly states she only gets her Original Power stuff

Sadly it was removed, but I am trying to get it back

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Remove Sonic the Hedgehog from Low 2-C, both his Game and Archie versions are 2-C

 

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Sadly it was removed, but I am trying to get it back

I mean, aight, I don't think it really changed my answer, since Homura still has infinite duration timestop and time rewind Moon doesn't have answers too in her first two keys (also bar the immortality I don't really see anything in those keys that would be changed by stars seeds getting upgraded)

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Arifureta characters could take a higher spot in other tiers including Kouki in H6-B, 6-B, maybe L6-B, Badd in 7-B and Kousuke in 8-B.

Bump

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Bump

kouki is not beating destiny charcaters in High 6B , final fantasy characters have 4D stuff in Low 6B

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

kouki is not beating destiny charcaters in High 6B , final fantasy characters have 4D stuff in Low 6B

What about the rest ?

 

[deonment]

What about the rest ?

Lob Corp people already have 4-D layered hax so they aren't getting higher than them
I deadass don't see anything that stops him from losing to the AoC or Homuliliy, and the latter just becomes 2-A and nukes the multiverse, while he can't actually reach the latter and gets haxed or AP'd out from there

 

[Wardokman69]

Shouldn't Jorge Joestar Dio be the 1st in 6-B?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Characters from MCU (Thanos and Doctor Strange Supreme)

Remove them from H6B, those character are now another tier

 

[Luckyfun]

Again, never said it's an insta-win. I was just saying arguing that his passives will work. Also while he himself isn't immortal, but he's got a bit of a Nightmare from Soulcalibur deal going on where if you kill him, this guy comes out. Not trying to argue just pointing it out as a fact.

Should Alvis also help? He can grant immortality to Shulk to incon.