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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

when did this happen
I think it started in this CRT:

And then more 1-A+ justification came along. Here's the cosmology blog: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/MiHoYo_Metaverse_and_Terminologies_Explained
 
I think it started in this CRT:

And then more 1-A+ justification came along. Here's the cosmology blog: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/MiHoYo_Metaverse_and_Terminologies_Explained
damn i didn't even know 1-A+ was a thing until now, are there any other verses with a 1-A+ scaling
 
damn i didn't even know 1-A+ was a thing until now, are there any other verses with a 1-A+ scaling
Goddess of Manifold isn't downgraded yet, so technically she is 1-A+. However, outside of peak scaling being 1-A+, I don't know. I think DC has 1-A+ cosmology stuff currently accepted, but most characters jump to High 1-A and above there.
 
Goddess of Manifold isn't downgraded yet, so technically she is 1-A+. However, outside of peak scaling being 1-A+, I don't know. I think DC has 1-A+ cosmology stuff currently accepted, but most characters jump to High 1-A and above there.
kinda feels like 1-A+ was made specifically for honkai. Speaking of DC where would characters from DC and Marvel like Dr. Manhattan or Hulk place on the 1-A List
 
kinda feels like 1-A+ was made specifically for honkai.
1-A+ is basically an infinite hierarchy. One can think of it as an infinite Reality>Fiction hierarchy if the baseline story qualifies for 1-A and there are infinite layers above it.
Speaking of DC where would characters from DC and Marvel like Dr. Manhattan or Hulk place on the 1-A List
I know nothing about the verses myself so better to ask/wait for the supporters I guess,
 
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1-A+ is basically an infinite hierarchy. One can think of it as an infinite Reality>F hierarchy if the baseline story qualifies for 1-A and there are infinite layers above it.

I know nothing about the verses myself so better to ask/wait for the supporters I guess,
Tbh layering once characters reach outerversal levels was already confusing enough. I understood it as having certain characters that are above another character on the same tier being what causes layers but this infinite layers thing is confusing because it barely makes much sense.
 
For 3-C, @Deceived3596 already conceded that Bleach don't really have any soul layers as of right now, and that Wang Wei should be above them. And considering that Wang Wei already defeated Mujin Park (mentioned several times before this), I think Wang Wei should be at 2nd Place for now @Dragonite007. Or do I need to make a match with White Queen?

Additionally, what is White Queen's shenanigans anyways? From the formatting of the profile, It looks like @DontTalkDT 's verse, so I'd appreciate it if I could know what she'll do in-character aside from the Charisma stuff.
 
TBH Coiling dragon characters are stupidly outdated, also put forefather in the same spot as them, as they can't do anything to forefather in speed inequalized (infinite vs immensurable).
 
@Dragonite007 Wang Ling in 2-C is outdated, and iirc asked to remove him from the list. I think I've said this a couple of times now, but Wang Wei has defeated Mujin, and pretty much crushes the 3 dudes above him currently in 3-C. So, put him in second place (Unless he needs to fight with White Queen, if so, tell me).

And In 5-B, he defeats WoW characters, and upon looking at characters below WoW, none of them seem to resist WW's thought-based Pnull or Soul/Mind crush of his aura that's thought-based (which should be passive tbh since he actively restricts and it's naturally active in all fights even without doing it to do shit to his opponents, but meh).
 
@Dragonite007 Wang Ling in 2-C is outdated, and iirc asked to remove him from the list. I think I've said this a couple of times now, but Wang Wei has defeated Mujin, and pretty much crushes the 3 dudes above him currently in 3-C. So, put him in second place (Unless he needs to fight with White Queen, if so, tell me).

And In 5-B, he defeats WoW characters, and upon looking at characters below WoW, none of them seem to resist WW's thought-based Pnull or Soul/Mind crush of his aura that's thought-based (which should be passive tbh since he actively restricts and it's naturally active in all fights even without doing it to do shit to his opponents, but meh).
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Please list Darquesse and the WoW characters as tied in 7-A
Done
 

Battle for 2nd strongest 3-C. Don't know jack about the White Queen aside from the charisma stuff.
 

on his profile it says he is atleast high 3A, so why is he in tier 10B?
 

Which ones are there in tier 10B? none of the ones i saw could take on Regulus so how did they even got put above them without a matchup?
 

on his profile it says he is atleast high 3A, so why is he in tier 10B?
Striking Strength: Human level

Durability:
Human level
 

Which ones are there in tier 10B? none of the ones i saw could take on Regulus so how did they even got put above them without a matchup?
 
he is 10A not 10B
 
he is 10A not 10B

here is the 10B one i found
 

here is the 10B one i found
Really how did you put them above Regulus without a matchup? wasnt it a rule or smth?
they might have some ways to bypass lions heart but in all honesty their stuff just seems to make their matchup an incon
 
his physiology page says this:

Immunities


so who knows, idk the character
 
his physiology page says this:

Immunities


so who knows, idk the character
btw what would they do if he strikes them with time stopped air?
 
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