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[SPOILER] Pokémon SW/SH thread [SPOILER]
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Nice change of pace. An actual evil Pokemon.NeoZex6399 said:
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I also like the idea, although it's not 100% confirmed, but Affleck directly called Eternatus "evil legendary", so it's probably real.
Anyway, I love its design.
Anyway, I love its design.
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Going by Affleck, what do you think of the supposed plot? I think it's something really cool.
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idk, but I've heard things I like.
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@JooNeoZex6399 said:
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I honestly don't care about the plot on a Pokémon game, but I'm totally interested to know how is Eternatus related to it.
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For story stuff, read here.
https://external-preview.redd.it/Jq...bp&s=ed3c7d78ed3ffde2b4b6ce8d0b2abb45d638383c
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/comments/bzmdtx/leak/
This was the stuff leaked months ago.
https://external-preview.redd.it/Jq...bp&s=ed3c7d78ed3ffde2b4b6ce8d0b2abb45d638383c
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/comments/bzmdtx/leak/
This was the stuff leaked months ago.
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That Tapu stuff looks debunked given the full dex, so not trusting it.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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I mean, not fully seeing as previous starters were available in Alola via Island scan despite not being in the dex.
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The last one is probably not the same Affleck
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I feel Corviknight is still the most badass looking design this gen, at least when excluding legendaries, maybe even without
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I'm totally getting Corviknight and Grimmsnarl, their designs are great.
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Cinderace, Corviknight, Duraludon and Dragapult are on my team for sure.
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@Dragon
Another one who like them all! High five with me and Peter
Also that gigantamax Duraludon....now from Mechagodzilla to an living Burj Khalifa
Another one who like them all! High five with me and Peter
Also that gigantamax Duraludon....now from Mechagodzilla to an living Burj Khalifa
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We knew that already.Bowser-us said:
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First off, Eternatus's height. I've seen via the Japanese Pokemon site, they seem to use metric, which is probably true in the Japanese games, too.
Cosmoem is 999.9 kilograms heavy. And Eternatus's height of 328'1" converts to about 99.9998 meters. So now I wanna know how rounding in the unit conversion affects it, because whether it's 99 or 100 meters drives me nuts.
Anyway, Eternatus's typing puzzles me. Or rather it's typing does. A name like "Eternatus" evokes "eternity". And it's supposed to be an evil Legendary, right? And it's said to bend Space & Time with the infinite energy.... And yet....
1. Yet it's not Dark-type, the type that has a Japanese name meaning "Evil".
2. Nor is it Ghost-type, the type for dead beings, despite appearing skeletal, & death & afterlife seeming pretty eternal, too.
3. it also has overlap with Victini (Infinite Energy, but Victini shares it, among other possible differences.) & Dialga & Palkia (Affecting space-time.), but among them, only shares Dragon type.
4. Psychic is often associated with warping reality/space (Trick Room, for example.), although, the only attacks I can think of that affect space/time are Dialga & Palkia's signatures, Roar of Time & Spacial Rend.
5. Necrozma is thematically similar, moreso as Ultra Necrozma. Being a huge source, or something connected to the power up of the game (Z Move Energy with UN, possibly Dynamax/Gigantamax with Eternatus.) & as Ultra Necrozma, also a Dragon.
6. Necrozma & Victini also have energy themes & Psychic type in common, but that may be coincidence.
7. Dragon seems to be the least confusing type of the two for Eternatus, given its appearance & probable story role. But I ponder why it wasn't partially Dark, Ghost or Psychic. (Besides Psychic being overly common on Legendaries.)
From a "meta-narrative", Poison sort of makes sense. Zacian & Zamazenta presumably have Eternatus as a common foe, & their "no equipment" forms are pure Fairy & pure Fighting types, respectively; They both gain Steel types when taking on the formes where they look as they do on the box art.
Fairy is offensively neutral to Poison/Dragon, sort of fitting for the "unbeatable sword" Legendary, as it's offense goes unresisted, even by its greatest foe, while Poison gives Eternatus SE STAB against Zamazenta without being Steel. Likewise, Poison/Dragon resists Zamazenta's STAB of Fighting. The Ultimate Shield not having the ultimate offense against its greatest foe sort of makes sense.
There's also the connection to Nihilego. Nihilego SORT OF being a Poison-type Legendary aside, its role in the story was giving dangerous, power ups, & if Dynamaxing/Gigantamaxing has negative side effects revealed in the story, Poison type makes sense in that way.
It's also only 3 turns, so it's certainly short lived like double-edged doses might be.
The other best reasons I can think of for Poison type are:
1. Poison type, other than Ghost type, comes close to "decay" and "entropy", both arguably "evil" and "eternal things", & stuff that you might consider when it's a monster that affects space-time with its energy; What is more eternal than entropy? What will come after the heat death of the universe?
2. Fairy type may be associated with Nature in general or the protection of it, as with the Tapus. Given that in mind, & Zacian being Fairy type to begin with, something representing a "natural" force that still works against protecting & preserving nature makes sense as an enemy. Even nature isn't safe from the laws of nature/physics, yet they still hinder nature.
Sorry about the super long post. It's just been on my mind a while.
Cosmoem is 999.9 kilograms heavy. And Eternatus's height of 328'1" converts to about 99.9998 meters. So now I wanna know how rounding in the unit conversion affects it, because whether it's 99 or 100 meters drives me nuts.
Anyway, Eternatus's typing puzzles me. Or rather it's typing does. A name like "Eternatus" evokes "eternity". And it's supposed to be an evil Legendary, right? And it's said to bend Space & Time with the infinite energy.... And yet....
1. Yet it's not Dark-type, the type that has a Japanese name meaning "Evil".
2. Nor is it Ghost-type, the type for dead beings, despite appearing skeletal, & death & afterlife seeming pretty eternal, too.
3. it also has overlap with Victini (Infinite Energy, but Victini shares it, among other possible differences.) & Dialga & Palkia (Affecting space-time.), but among them, only shares Dragon type.
4. Psychic is often associated with warping reality/space (Trick Room, for example.), although, the only attacks I can think of that affect space/time are Dialga & Palkia's signatures, Roar of Time & Spacial Rend.
5. Necrozma is thematically similar, moreso as Ultra Necrozma. Being a huge source, or something connected to the power up of the game (Z Move Energy with UN, possibly Dynamax/Gigantamax with Eternatus.) & as Ultra Necrozma, also a Dragon.
6. Necrozma & Victini also have energy themes & Psychic type in common, but that may be coincidence.
7. Dragon seems to be the least confusing type of the two for Eternatus, given its appearance & probable story role. But I ponder why it wasn't partially Dark, Ghost or Psychic. (Besides Psychic being overly common on Legendaries.)
From a "meta-narrative", Poison sort of makes sense. Zacian & Zamazenta presumably have Eternatus as a common foe, & their "no equipment" forms are pure Fairy & pure Fighting types, respectively; They both gain Steel types when taking on the formes where they look as they do on the box art.
Fairy is offensively neutral to Poison/Dragon, sort of fitting for the "unbeatable sword" Legendary, as it's offense goes unresisted, even by its greatest foe, while Poison gives Eternatus SE STAB against Zamazenta without being Steel. Likewise, Poison/Dragon resists Zamazenta's STAB of Fighting. The Ultimate Shield not having the ultimate offense against its greatest foe sort of makes sense.
There's also the connection to Nihilego. Nihilego SORT OF being a Poison-type Legendary aside, its role in the story was giving dangerous, power ups, & if Dynamaxing/Gigantamaxing has negative side effects revealed in the story, Poison type makes sense in that way.
It's also only 3 turns, so it's certainly short lived like double-edged doses might be.
The other best reasons I can think of for Poison type are:
1. Poison type, other than Ghost type, comes close to "decay" and "entropy", both arguably "evil" and "eternal things", & stuff that you might consider when it's a monster that affects space-time with its energy; What is more eternal than entropy? What will come after the heat death of the universe?
2. Fairy type may be associated with Nature in general or the protection of it, as with the Tapus. Given that in mind, & Zacian being Fairy type to begin with, something representing a "natural" force that still works against protecting & preserving nature makes sense as an enemy. Even nature isn't safe from the laws of nature/physics, yet they still hinder nature.
Sorry about the super long post. It's just been on my mind a while.
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I think the reason Eternatus is poison type and not dark type is because nobody wants Eternatus to have a x4 to fairy type.
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Yeah, I figured that, too. As an enemy to Zacian, it'd feel a bit strange for it to be 4x weak to Zacian's main type when Zacian & Zamazenta seem to be meant to team up to fight Eternatus. Meanwhile, both of them gaining Steel-type against a Poison/Dragon, is type match-up wise, a very good counterpick.
Dunno if it's meant to be that meta, though.
That said, as I mentioned, they could've made it Ghost/Dragon.
Ghost, like with death and the afterlife, which fits the "eternity theme" and skeletons -since Eternatus resembles one- so it makes sense, visually, too.
Admittedly, in such a case, it'd have no edge against Zacian, but it'd be much more favorable against Zamazenta.
Dunno if it's meant to be that meta, though.
That said, as I mentioned, they could've made it Ghost/Dragon.
Ghost, like with death and the afterlife, which fits the "eternity theme" and skeletons -since Eternatus resembles one- so it makes sense, visually, too.
Admittedly, in such a case, it'd have no edge against Zacian, but it'd be much more favorable against Zamazenta.
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yep Contexts Eternatus is a Eldritch Adomination look it's Body. here https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EldritchAbominatioCrackerVolley said:
Example:https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/EldritchAbomination/Pokemo
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Facts fun about Arceus itself, who, despite being widely thought as the Pokémon equivalent of God (who has His own extensive entry) is actually closer to Azathoth, considering it created the universe "with its 1000 arms" then went to sleep for a few billion years.
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Arceus from what I know, is an amalgation of multiple different ideas relating to god from multiple different cultures
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Speaking of the Scorbunny line, Raboot looks like a parkourer and you can't tell me otherwise.
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The thing is though... What speed would we give Eternatus? Would it just be relativistic like a lot of the other 'mon?
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Well I doubt you'll see anything from them until the anime tbh
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The scale in this game is ******.
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