Gotta Revise 'Em All, Part 2 (Clover Edition): Mainline Game Scaling

[Jinx666]

Yap

Aight dont you start spamming walls of text with replies like 'Nuh uh'

TLDR it, but skimming its just a lot of denial lol

Learn the difference between a temporary transformation and an actual evolution plz. If you think Gallade and Gardevoir arent even worthy of unique profiles, then thats just a dumb limitation you're forcing yourself to think so you dont appear wrong

Shedinja is NOT a form Nincada takes, its a separately empty husk that is a thing after Nincada evolves into Ninjask, and lives separately. You LITERALLY get a Shedinja when you evolve a Nincada into Ninjask for free. Please stop forcing yourself to be wrong

'I dont care', who said it was up to you?

 

[Jinx666]

More variations less connections and speaking of precedents, the precedent is against what you are suggesting based on the fact that is not what we are currently doing. We would be make it harder to perform general revisions for the verse.
this and this

Yeah idk what these characters are, Mii Fighter in itself is literally a placeholder so its fine to group their variations together, since thats player-based and they're not actually named characters

None of these are example of Species profiles however, Idk what you plan abt that is, but Pokemon is entirely different. Their evolutions and separate species, not 'Variations'

An example of variations are Regional Forms, like Alolan Ninetales to regular Ninetales (and even then, mons like Cofagrigus and Runerigus should have separate profiles, they are NOT the same)

 

[Lou_change]

This
Your argument is just claiming we aren't saying anything of value. That they are so fundamentally different that they shouldn't share a profile. Maybe you should try making a separate thread to discuss this or just make a gallade profile if you want it to exist and make a crt.

 

[Omegabronic]

Aight dont you start spamming walls of text with replies like 'Nuh uh'

oh but when you do that it is ok eh?

not that i was doing that btw, simple answers require simple answers to the answers, it is that simple

i really don't know what you expected

TLDR it, but skimming its just a lot of denial lol

oh wow, amazing rebuttal, i completely changed my mind

Learn the difference between a temporary transformation and an actual evolution plz. If you think Gallade and Gardevoir arent even worthy of unique profiles, then thats just a dumb limitation you're forcing yourself to think so you dont appear wrong

considering that i am not talking about temporary transformations at all in any capacity whatsoever............yeah, this is just a strawman since you can't deny my actual point

they are FORMS, in the most basic sense of the word, TEMPORARY OR NOT THEY ARE STILL JUST FORMS

Ralts? the same character when it evolves, same individual, same character, same profile, Gallade and Gardevoir? nothing more than different options for forms that it(Ralts) can take, that is LITERALLY ALL THEY ARE

Shedinja is NOT a form Nincada takes, its a separately empty husk that is a thing after Nincada evolves into Ninjask

aka it is LITERALLY Nincada's body, aka Nincada itself, coming to life, aka it IS ANOTHER FORM NINCADA TAKES

'I dont care', who said it was up to you?

i dunno, you certainly think that it is up to you since you for some reason wants to impose a method another completely unrelated Wiki uses on us and expect us to believe in it blindly as "they do it".......don't you see the irony in this? you are legit doing the exact thing you are accusing me of

it isn't up to you either, so why bother saying "they, the other wiki that has no relation to us does it" and then expect us to say "oh yeah? that is a amazing reason" when you supposedly are against this method yourself?

 

[Jinx666]

Yap

Respond relevantly and stop tryna spam wall texts plz

considering that i am not talking about temporary transformations at all in any capacity whatsoever............yeah, this is just a strawman since you can't deny my actual point

they are FORMS, in the most basic sense of the word, TEMPORARY OR NOT THEY ARE STILL JUST FORMS

Ralts? the same character when it evolves, same individual, same character, same profile, Gallade and Gardevoir? nothing more than different options for forms that it(Ralts) can take, that is LITERALLY ALL THEY ARE

You aint got a point bro, you just out here denying the actual fact that Gardevoir and Gallade are separate species of Pokemon, and not just different 'forms' (Split evolutions are different to different forms of 1 Pokemon)

They arent Forms. Forms is like Palafin. Theyre a Split evo line. How much more stupid can this be?

Ralts isnt a character, its a Species. Gallade and Gardevoir are its evolved permament forms (akin to metamorphosis), and regarded as a separate species. Its an irreversible process, unlike actual form changes. Your definitions are all over the place

aka it is LITERALLY Nincada's body, aka Nincada itself, coming to life, aka it IS ANOTHER FORM NINCADA TAKES

No it isnt, it becomes a separate entity, this is literally confirmed to us

i dunno, you certainly think that it is up to you since you for some reason wants to impose a method another completely unrelated Wiki uses on us and expect us to believe in it blindly as "they do it".......don't you see the irony in this? you are legit doing the exact thing you are accusing me of

it isn't up to you either, so why bother saying "they, the other wiki that has no relation to us does it" and then expect us to say "oh yeah? that is a amazing reason" when you supposedly are against this method yourself?

If Pokemon was up to you, I can see why its in the state it is right now.

You dont know the difference between a Form change and an evolution of Pokemon lol

 

[Jinx666]

This
Your argument is just claiming we aren't saying anything of value. That they are so fundamentally different that they shouldn't share a profile. Maybe you should try making a separate thread to discuss this or just make a gallade profile if you want it to exist and make a crt.

This isnt a species profile either. This is outlining variants, again.

Idk how many profiles unrelated to Pokemon evolutions you have to link, but this is completely different..

Idk if these tabbers could be unique pages on their own, but if they can then they can. We certainly allow profiles for 'groups' or 'duos' or 'armies' so this falls more under that category

 

[Jinx666]

Like i just dont know whats so hard to understand between yall

Examples of Form Changes:

Palafin Zero to Hero
Any Mega Evolution
Meloetta Aria - Pirouette
Eiscue Ice and Noice Form

Examples of Split Evolutions
Gallade Gardevoir
Froslass Glalie
Eeveelutions
Poliwrath Politoed

Split Evolutions are DIFFERENT POKEMON, Pokemon with different forms are the SAME.

Idk what this bias you guys have is where you feel the need to incorporate headcanons, but can we not do it on whats meant to be a neutral indexing site?

 

[Lou_change]

You don't seem aware of what we do for destruction calc. We just do things like this.

How will we deal with Wormadam, Meowstic, Lycanroc, Toxtricity, Indeedee, and Tauros

What about Slowbro and Slowking being able to devolve.

 

[Jinx666]

How will we deal with Wormadam, Meowstic, Lycanroc, Toxtricity, Indeedee, and Tauros

I mean...I dont know whose clammering to make a Wormadam profile, but All Wormadam variants on 1 profile, Mothim separately (Literally no point)
Meowstic 1 profile (gender difference, not a form change)
Lycanroc is trickier, but they belong on 1 profile
Toxtricity on 1 profile
Indeedee on 1 profile
Tauros variants on 1 profile, similar to those profiles you're showing. Regional forms are fine to keep in 1 profile

See, not hard. Can we stop pretending like this is difficult

What about Slowbro and Slowking being able to devolve.

Put that in the weaknesses? Very niche bit of lore application there that doesnt apply at all in the games
Doesnt mean Slowbro and Slowpoke cant get separate profiles

 

[Lou_change]

See, not hard. Can we stop pretending like this is difficult

If they aren't interchangeable forms doesn't that contridict one of the arguments you made regarding split evolution about them not being interchangeable forms these also aren't interchangeable forms

 

[Jinx666]

If they aren't interchangeable forms doesn't that contridict one of the arguments you made regarding split evolution about them not being interchangeable forms these also aren't interchangeable forms

No it doesnt, cause you're comparing Split evolutions to alternate forms of Pokemon (If they share the same name, its literally fine to put them in one profile).

They're members of the same species, but regional forms are just variants. Think of it like Dog Breeds. Meanwhile Split Evos are Wolves or other more evolved canines.

 

[Jinx666]

Yall are so against giving unique Pokemon their own profiles its crazy. What did Gallade do to yall? Bro didn't get his own mega for this

 

[Lou_change]

Because evolution lines are connected. Look we have a system and most people aren't interested in changing it.

 

[Jinx666]

Because evolution lines are connected. Look we have a system and most people aren't interested in changing it.

We dont have a system lmao. The pages are all unorganised and out of uniform with eachother, this is why the verse is such a mess to yall

Dont keep lying to yourselves. Evolutions might be connected, but Split Evos are only connected by their pre-evos, and theres no way you all actually agree with cucking split evo pokemons and messily cramming them into one profile based on like, their weakest attribute.

People arent interested cause its the general laziness this verse has had on this wiki for a while. I can do all this no prob. I hardly expect the three people ive been talking to are the authority lol

 

[Lou_change]

It's unofficial, but only two Pokémon current system that people sort of just happened to decide to create profiles and the most recent revision of a pokemon line featuring a split eevee and their evolutions where all fused.

Now there's no official rules saying we have to do it like this but for the most part people who made pokemon profiles have generally decided to stick with the current method, sometimes Pokémon profiles are made differently, but recently attempts have been made to create more consistent profiles. It's a slow process and debate about cross scaling media has been stalling us longer than funbro.

You are free to try making separate profiles for Pokémon. None of us can stop you without breaking the rules. As long as pre evolutions aren't removed I won't go out of my way to argue against this more than I already have.

If you want the thoughts of others I would recommend making a thread for the topic rather than a thread on another topic that is practical dead. There's also the Pokémon general discussion thread.

 

[Jinx666]

It's unofficial, but only two Pokémon current system that people sort of just happened to decide to create profiles and the most recent revision of a pokemon line featuring a split eevee and their evolutions where all fused.

Yeah, so there is definitely basis to improve upon this, given theres also examples of people making different profiles for split evos

Now there's no official rules saying we have to do it like this but for the most part people who made pokemon profiles have generally decided to stick with the current method, sometimes Pokémon profiles are made differently, but recently attempts have been made to create more consistent profiles. It's a slow process and debate about cross scaling media has been stalling us longer than funbro.

Yeah, another big problem is mixing games, anime, spinoffs etc. which is just GF's fault for making everything convoluted

You are free to try making separate profiles for Pokémon. None of us can stop you without breaking the rules. As long as pre evolutions aren't removed I won't go out of my way to argue against this more than I already have.

Keep the Pre-evos but yh, i personally dont think like, 98% of them are relevant enough to split things up, nor they should be that unique final evos cant get their own page just because they exist.

If you want the thoughts of others I would recommend making a thread for the topic rather than a thread on another topic that is practical dead. There's also the Pokémon general discussion thread.

Yh i'll think abt it

 

[CloverDragon03]

Yo we are not making separate profiles for Pokemon like Gallade and Shedinja, they come from the same evolution line come on now

Edit: We're also not axing pre-evolved forms just because "no one uses them in VS matches" or something. We're an indexing site first and foremost. The VS matches are secondary.

 

[Lou_change]

Yeah, so there is definitely basis to improve upon this, given theres also examples of people making different profiles for split evos

I can't think of any besides Glalie or Froslass which are decent, but I don't think they are the best Pokémon profiles around.

Yeah, another big problem is mixing games, anime, spinoffs etc. which is just GF's fault for making everything convoluted

It's pretty much just scaling so we don't have to find new calcs for different media, but the topic has decreased interest in the verse to the point that it has been over a year since we split them and so far nothing has been changed as a direct result because people weren't interested in doing the work either not supporting the verse or not supporting the split.

Keep the Pre-evos but yh, i personally dont think like, 98% of them are relevant enough to split things up, nor they should be that unique final evos cant get their own page just because they exist.

For the most part couldn't you just let them share a profile with the evolution closest in dex order.

 

[Jinx666]

Yo we are not making separate profiles for Pokemon like Gallade and Shedinja, they come from the same evolution line come on now

Edit: We're also not axing pre-evolved forms just because "no one uses them in VS matches" or something. We're an indexing site first and foremost. The VS matches are secondary.

Having the same evolution line, yet being completely different species, with different mega forms, different types and separate abilities??? But sharing the same pre-evo overshadows that completely?

If the game sees them as different, i dont know why you think this sites too good to also see them that way lol. Way better than just lazily cramming the info of 4 different pokemon into 1 profile and pretending like thats user friendly

If we're 'indexing', then lets do it a bit more tidily. Im not asking to axe pre-evo stats, I just dont think they should be a necessity on a named Final-Evolution mon's profile, especially in the case of Split-Evos that are unique to one another.

 

[Jinx666]

I can't think of any besides Glalie or Froslass which are decent, but I don't think they are the best Pokémon profiles around.

Pokemon profiles arent up to standard right now period.

It's pretty much just scaling so we don't have to find new calcs for different media, but the topic has decreased interest in the verse to the point that it has been over a year since we split them and so far nothing has been changed as a direct result because people weren't interested in doing the work either not supporting the verse or not supporting the split.

Thats what happens when theres no organisation to begin with. Makes it 10x harder to crack on it.

For the most part couldn't you just let them share a profile with the evolution closest in dex order.

Idk but Split-Evos are completely unique to eachother and idk why this wiki seems to be intent on cramming it all together and just making messier profiles.

Shedinja and Ninjask are like, a huge example of this. They work completely separately to one another, AND they're completely separate entities.

 

[Jinx666]

Like how have y'all got Pichu as the first picture people see on Pikachu's profile

 

[Omegabronic]

Like how have y'all got Pichu as the first picture people see on Pikachu's profile

.......Pichu is Pikachu's first form therefore he shows up first?.........what? We should the middle form instead of the first or the final one? It is.....random tbh, no need to change that

 

[CloverDragon03]

Having the same evolution line, yet being completely different species, with different mega forms, different types and separate abilities??? But sharing the same pre-evo overshadows that completely?

If the game sees them as different, i dont know why you think this sites too good to also see them that way lol. Way better than just lazily cramming the info of 4 different pokemon into 1 profile and pretending like thats user friendly

If we're 'indexing', then lets do it a bit more tidily. Im not asking to axe pre-evo stats, I just dont think they should be a necessity on a named Final-Evolution mon's profile, especially in the case of Split-Evos that are unique to one another.

No. The work needed for this isn't justified by the gain, of which there is very little. If anything, I'd say these are negative changes. Not to mention, this thread is to hash out way more important things, so I'd appreciate not being so stubborn on this

 

[Lou_change]

Pokemon profiles arent up to standard right now period.

What standards and what profiles?

Thats what happens when theres no organisation to begin with. Makes it 10x harder to crack on it.

What are you talking about? We had a system, the system changed, people disagreed with the change, and now people are trying to change it back.

Idk but Split-Evos are completely unique to eachother and idk why this wiki seems to be intent on cramming it all together and just making messier profiles.

They are part of the same evolution line just because pokemon has a weird definition of species doesn't mean we need to use evolution in pokemon has always been more similar to metamorphosis. Also how is it messier we have tabs.

 

[Jinx666]

No. The work needed for this isn't justified by the gain, of which there is very little. If anything, I'd say these are negative changes. Not to mention, this thread is to hash out way more important things, so I'd appreciate not being so stubborn on this

The work isnt being done regardless lol. I'd be able to separate the pages easily.

The gain is not meshing two different Pokemon into one profile just for being evolutions. These two are fan-favourites in their own rights and clearly have differences to offer if the profile itself has to omit abilities from each one. They arent different forms to eachother, merely separate evolutions from 1 pre-evolution. Its not like theres finite space on this wiki either.

I dont see what would be 'negative' about this either way. The only negative is that it'll take time to do lol

 

[Jinx666]

.......Pichu is Pikachu's first form therefore he shows up first?.........what? We should the middle form instead of the first or the final one? It is.....random tbh, no need to change that

It's Pikachu. The face of the entire Verse.
Most Pokemon profiles are named after their final evolution, and show the third-evo first (ideally. thats who everyones gonna be looking for)

Even if thats not applicable cause of Pikachu, you guys literally named the profile 'Pikachu' and not Raichu lol. Its just weird presentation.

 

[Jinx666]

What standards and what profiles?

The fact all Pokemon profiles just have a ton of different formats, as well as most being highly out of date.

What are you talking about? We had a system, the system changed, people disagreed with the change, and now people are trying to change it back.

This verse never had a clear system, its why its so disorganised on this wiki.

They are part of the same evolution line just because pokemon has a weird definition of species doesn't mean we need to use evolution in pokemon has always been more similar to metamorphosis. Also how is it messier we have tabs.

'weird definition of species'

Is the actual definition of Species.

You're all treating alternate forms and Evolutions the same, which is awkward since theres a clear difference, and in this case its very much screwing over Pokemon like Gallade from getting their own profile

Too many tabs do look messy after a while. Tabs are useful for condensing info, but when theres so much it just looks overbloated. Best to try and avoid that when possible

 

[Lou_change]

The fact all Pokemon profiles just have a ton of different formats, as well as most being highly out of date.

There is over a hundred of them it takes time, effort to change them, and I think people rather have them as they are than delete them.

This verse never had a clear system, its why its so disorganised on this wiki.

The system regarding canon and scaling.

'weird definition of species'

a category of living things that ranks below a genus, is made up of related individuals able to produce fertile offspring, and is identified by a two-part scientific name
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A species (pl.: species) is a population of organisms in which any two individuals of the appropriate sexes or mating types can produce fertile offspring, typically by sexual reproduction. It is the basic unit of classification and a taxonomic rank of an organism, as well as a unit of biodiversity.
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The differences between Pokémon evolution and actual evolution

 

[Jinx666]

There is over a hundred of them it takes time, effort to change them, and I think people rather have them as they are than delete them.

I didnt say to delete them whatsoever

The system regarding canon and scaling.

Yeah and thats still not really in place and unsure about. That, and no set formatting

a category of living things that ranks below a genus, is made up of related individuals able to produce fertile offspring, and is identified by a two-part scientific name
Source
A species (pl.: species) is a population of organisms in which any two individuals of the appropriate sexes or mating types can produce fertile offspring, typically by sexual reproduction. It is the basic unit of classification and a taxonomic rank of an organism, as well as a unit of biodiversity.
Source
The differences between Pokémon evolution and actual evolution

Yeah its cute that you googled it but you misunderstood. Pokemon evolutions are canonically counted as different species, even if they evolve into eachother.

As much as i dont wanna start talking abt literal breeding, but Pokemon can breed with different species in general to one another so they arent comparable in that sense either. They just have to belong to 1 egg group.

With this in mind, it wouldnt be farfetch'd to separate Pokemon Evolutions entirely. But again, let me reiterate, i dont think we SHOULD do that, but we should instead not be so strict with this rule because of this, nor let it prevent Split-Evos from getting their own pages when Pokemon has made an effort to differentiate them.

 

[CloverDragon03]

The work isnt being done regardless lol. I'd be able to separate the pages easily.

The gain is not meshing two different Pokemon into one profile just for being evolutions. These two are fan-favourites in their own rights and clearly have differences to offer if the profile itself has to omit abilities from each one. They arent different forms to eachother, merely separate evolutions from 1 pre-evolution. Its not like theres finite space on this wiki either.

I dont see what would be 'negative' about this either way. The only negative is that it'll take time to do lol

This is not a gain. This is no different from any other evolution. Just make it a separate key like we already do

 

[Jinx666]

This is not a gain. This is no different from any other evolution. Just make it a separate key like we already do

What do you define as a gain exactly? The Verse gains another (quality) profile, and a cleaner page left behind. Both Gardevoir and Gallade would have their reasons to be used separately i reckon.

Well it is...cause its a Split-Evolution, and therefore apparently that means we have to cram the stats of two separate mons (despite there being a clear effort made to show how separate they are most of the time) into one page.

Given its not a form change, or a direct transformation like Mega Evolution (Which the Ralts profile fails to 'index' anyway), and there are clear differences in powers, ability, character etc, then it's easily possible to make a separate profile. Heck, the fact they have separate Mega Evolutions should prove enough that they're separate to one another

If the only problem is genuinely that its too much work for yall then I really dont mind at this point

 

[Omegabronic]

It's Pikachu. The face of the entire Verse.
Most Pokemon profiles are named after their final evolution, and show the third-evo first (ideally. thats who everyones gonna be looking for)

Even if thats not applicable cause of Pikachu, you guys literally named the profile 'Pikachu' and not Raichu lol. Its just weird presentation.

.....ok? So we should change the name of the page then, no problem

 

[Lou_change]

I didnt say to delete them whatsoever

I am explaining why the subpar profiles exist.

Yeah and thats still not really in place and unsure about. That, and no set formatting

I don't think any verse has a set formatting

Yeah its cute that you googled it but you misunderstood. Pokemon evolutions are canonically counted as different species, even if they evolve into eachother.

You said they use a normal definition of species. Things can't just swap species just because the verse uses dumb terminology, doesn't mean we should override our own definitions.

As much as i dont wanna start talking abt literal breeding, but Pokemon can breed with different species in general to one another so they arent comparable in that sense either. They just have to belong to 1 egg group.

I'd argue if the result of interacting with ditto produces a member of the same evolutionary line they are the same species.

With this in mind, it wouldnt be farfetch'd to separate Pokemon Evolutions entirely.

I feel impracticality and the fact any revision of a pre evolution effects all evolutions

(Which the Ralts profile fails to 'index' anyway)

The notable attacks section! Honestly beside the weird gallade power & abilities section it is good

Pokemon has made an effort to differentiate them.

I mean we don't use base stats, they in most cases get a majority of abilities from their previous forms, and the differences are usually not as important as their similarities and connections to each.

 

[CloverDragon03]

What do you define as a gain exactly? The Verse gains another (quality) profile, and a cleaner page left behind. Both Gardevoir and Gallade would have their reasons to be used separately i reckon.

Well it is...cause its a Split-Evolution, and therefore apparently that means we have to cram the stats of two separate mons (despite there being a clear effort made to show how separate they are most of the time) into one page.

Given its not a form change, or a direct transformation like Mega Evolution (Which the Ralts profile fails to 'index' anyway), and there are clear differences in powers, ability, character etc, then it's easily possible to make a separate profile. Heck, the fact they have separate Mega Evolutions should prove enough that they're separate to one another

If the only problem is genuinely that its too much work for yall then I really dont mind at this point

Do you know how simple it is to just... have Gallade's stats and abilities in a different key on the profile instead of making a new profile? Like... Idk what else to say besides just stop

 

[Jinx666]

Do you know how simple it is to just... have Gallade's stats and abilities in a different key on the profile instead of making a new profile? Like... Idk what else to say besides just stop

Its not hard either? And makes it far more user-friendly, while also not belittling a separate character all together. If theres anyone willing to separate the profiles for the sake of the mon (I am), then let them?

Its not easier either
1) If people wanna look for either 1 of those split evolutions, its better to have a page that bluntly tells you what JUST they are capable of doing, without having to decipher and link up powers and abilities
2) you're literally having to put all of the info you would put into a theoretical Gallade profile into one page, making it crammed af. This wiki isnt short on space and theres no page limit a verse can have lol.

If anything, this verse NEEDS the higher work ethic

 

[Jinx666]

k

Yeah ima stick to one person at a time, a lot of this is trying to tell me things I already know, false pretences on what makes characters Deserve to have a page on this wiki (The standards arent high), and then huge misunderstandings

 

[CloverDragon03]

Its not hard either? And makes it far more user-friendly, while also not belittling a separate character all together. If theres anyone willing to separate the profiles for the sake of the mon (I am), then let them?

Its not easier either
1) If people wanna look for either 1 of those split evolutions, its better to have a page that bluntly tells you what JUST they are capable of doing, without having to decipher and link up powers and abilities
2) you're literally having to put all of the info you would put into a theoretical Gallade profile into one page, making it crammed af. This wiki isnt short on space and theres no page limit a verse can have lol.

If anything, this verse NEEDS the higher work ethic

This relies on the assumption that not going with your suggestion means there isn't a higher work ethic, which is just... not true

As it stands, you're the only one arguing for this change. If you don't get more support, this isn't happening. Not to mention, we have way more important things to worry about

 

[Jinx666]

This relies on the assumption that not going with your suggestion means there isn't a higher work ethic, which is just... not true

??? No it doesnt, you've literally just lamented about how much easier it is to cram more than 2 pokemon into a tabber which just isnt true. That just comes across as you thinking this would be hard work lol

As it stands, you're the only one arguing for this change. If you don't get more support, this isn't happening. Not to mention, we have way more important things to worry about

Yeah, I came into this inactive thread irrelevant to pitching this change and brought up how it has a lot of work.

It's already happened lol, It's just weird why people are so allergic to it when Pokemon are still counted as different species.

This isnt about whats more important lol, again i can do ALL of this easily, the workload is a non-issue

 

[Lou_change]

And makes it far more user-friendly,

Based on what evidence

you're literally having to put all of the info you would put into a theoretical Gallade profile into one page, making it crammed af.

I know it's not what you meant, but wouldn't you still put all of the information you would put into a theoretical Gallade profile into one page if you made a Gallade profile. It doesn't seem to me like it's horribly cramped. I rather have them together than apart sometimes I forget the name of a Pokémon and I just search the name of anything in the line. If I want gallade and searched ralts I wouldn't find it anymore would I?

 

[CloverDragon03]

??? No it doesnt, you've literally just lamented about how much easier it is to cram more than 2 pokemon into a tabber which just isnt true. That just comes across as you thinking this would be hard work lol

It absolutely is easier to make it a separate key in an existing profile as opposed to making a whole new profile. Asserting otherwise doesn't make your stance actually true, nor does dismissing my point make yours any better

Yeah, I came into this inactive thread irrelevant to pitching this change and brought up how it has a lot of work.

It's already happened lol, It's just weird why people are so allergic to it when Pokemon are still counted as different species.

This isnt about whats more important lol, again i can do ALL of this easily, the workload is a non-issue

What do you even mean by "it's already happened"? And it doesn't matter what you say you can do, because if the suggestion doesn't get the appropriate support, it's just not happening. Hence why I brought up that you're the only one arguing for this