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The high 8-c key came from upscaling iron man’s old armour which generate building+ levels of energy
I don’t remember where the building one came from
I don’t remember where the building one came from
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Spider-Man: No Way Home Discussion Thread - WITH SPOILERS
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No Sam Raimi tribute??? He quite literally started the modern Era of superhero moviesthe funniest line in no way home
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Nah, Ock overpowered both of them.
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Arc Reactor statements.
Mark 1 is 3.5 gigawatts (8-C), Mark 3 is 8 gigawatts (8-C+) and Mark 6 is 10 gigawatts (High 8-C).
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High 8-C was for Mark 6's 10-gigawatt statement. Which is useless now because that mark scales to 8-A for the arc reactor being able to harm Loki, who is 8-A.
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No, they’ll on be on Base MCU Peter’s tier. We’ve been over this a few times. Otto dominated the other Spider-Men with ease
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8-C came from the Wakandan Spears and the Deathlok feat. The first kinda needs a recalc for the specific statement, Deathlok can’t be used anymore, and anything else that was 8-C to High 8-C came from stuff Iron Man did
However, No Way Home locks in consistent Tier 8 stuff for the MCU
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Nice work!
Aaaand voilà!
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Of course, just playing my part!
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Isn't this literally the same Otto with whom Peter kept parity in the second Spider-Man?
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I think Doctor Strange needs a bit of an overhaul on his page at this point it hasn't really been properly updated in a while, but it seems we're on it now
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The same one that literally overpowered TASM Peter and Raimi Peter at the same time as well as other times in SM2
Otto scales above the Peters and NWH makes that clear
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Do the other spidermen scale to tom now?
Also, will spiderman have an added time stop resistance ability on his profile? (based on his fight with dr strange)
Also, will spiderman have an added time stop resistance ability on his profile? (based on his fight with dr strange)
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then what was happening
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Self body puppetry? Tom wasn't controlling his body during that scene, it was moving independently to avoid Dr strange
Ok, but being hit into the astral plane itself isn't what im referring to. When Peter entered the astral plane time froze from the perspective of dr strange and peters spiritual form. His body was able to move despite this
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I think I remember Tobey saying that they made it work out after Spider Man 3 too, the little bit of extra closure was SO good for all of the Peters
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Its a very specific case, but that's what it is here. We had discussed this far earlier in the thread
This was what I was talking about. And about that:
A) Time didn't freeze. It was just moving slowly
B) Doctor Strange doesn't even have the Time Stone at this point
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As long as time is slowed enough or you're moving fast enough, time will appear frozen because everything's moving so slow from your perspective it might as well not even be moving. Also last time astral projection was used things weren't frozen, only slowed down unless you wanna say normal lightning has resistance to time stop
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If it only slows down, is there a possibility of a "far higher" next to peters speed tier with spider sense? Or at least in the astral plane? The scene itself seems pretty important to the mechanics of his spider sense.
If it's only slowed down would peters speed with spider sense be far higher than his normal statistics?
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Maybe. Comics Spidey has his spider sense as higher than his normal reactions though just based on that one scene idk since it wasn't moving that much faster than a casual strange
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Isn't lighting slow from the perspective of the astral plane? I thought that would be much higher
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He's not resistant to soul manipulation, he was still capable of being pushed into the astral plane. His body itself is what was moving on it's own, even when time was massively slowed down.
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this?
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His body moving is not what im referring to specifically. It's the fact that he had an instinctive reaction when time was slowed down, so his combat speed would be higher with spider sense, even if it would be considered an instinctive reaction
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Well, that makes sense, I mean that's the grace of the spider sense (that's how I see it)
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Probably something spider-sense related (instinctive reaction)
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There's actually no proof that his Spider Sense did something in this scene.
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Im not denying that it's instinctive reaction. What im saying is, it can be considered both instinctive reaction and a speed amp based on the scene.
There's no proof, but literally no other character in the MCU, including characters whos speed scale massively above spiderman, have been able to move their physical bodies in the astral plane (aside from dr strange and affiliated characters) the only real solution WOULD be spider sense, otherwise the scene literally makes no sense. Even if it wasn't his spider sense, what im saying still applies in some way
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Good, we can give him Instinctive Reaction when in soul form or whatever, without Spider Sense, until more explanation is given.
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