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Spider-Man: No Way Home Discussion Thread - WITH SPOILERS

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So what should we classify the abilities Peter displays when he moves his body despite it lacking a soul along with going back into his body?
 
Probably instinctive reactions, only real thing we have it'd fall under. His body reacts automatically, straightforward.
 
Abilities Stuff:

MCU Peter:
Base: Self-Body Puppetry (Despite Dr. Strange removing his soul, Peter's physical body continued to move a magical box away from the former's grasp continuously), Limited Self-Soul Manipulation (Solely moved his soul back into his body)
Optional Equipment: BFR (Can utilize a single magic web-shooter that sends people or objects to a magical prison if shot with a single web), Power Nullification (Alongside two other Peter Parkers, created cures for Green Goblin, Sandman, Electro, and The Lizard which would effectively depower them)

Additional points for existing abilities: Regeneration (Low; Healed off his bullet wounds in a few hours), Technological Manipulation (Can control the Nanotechnology of the Iron Spider even when not using it, as well as when it was forcibly integrated into Doctor Octopus’ metal arms), Precognition (Warned Peter when Norman Osborn’s Goblin persona was about to resurface), Preparation (Worked on cures for a number of villains within a short amount of time)

Raimi Peter:
Base: Preparation (Worked on cures for a number of villains within a short amount of time)
Optional Equipment: Power Nullification (Alongside two other Peter Parkers, created cures for Green Goblin, Sandman, Electro, and The Lizard which would effectively depower them)

TASM Peter:
Base: Preparation (Worked on cures for a number of villains within a short amount of time)
Optional Equipment: Power Nullification (Alongside two other Peter Parkers, created cures for Green Goblin, Sandman, Electro, and The Lizard which would effectively depower them)

Electro:
Teleportation, Enhanced Senses (Detected an alternate Spider-Man attacking from behind, allowing himself to effectively avoid being hit)

Doctor Octopus:
Technological Manipulation (Removed the Iron Spider's Nanotechnology and integrated it into his metal arms)

Sandman:
Air Manipulation
 
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If Strange gets 8-C durability for withstanding a pumpkin bomb explosion at close range, I wonder if that would scale to any other sorcerers. Do we have any reason to assume that Strange's physical AP/durability significantly increased along with his magical power between the 2016 movie and Infinity War?

Also, Memory Manipulation for Strange. Presumably some form of data/information manipulation must also be involved in order for all the media surrounding Spider-Man's identity to no longer be an issue. The spell threatens the universe when not done properly, so that's something.

The Cloak of Levitation seemed comparable to Spider-Man physically, which seems consistent with it being able to wrestle with Drax in Infinity War. I'm not really sure if it scales to AP or just Lifting Strength. It could knock Drax down mid-charge at least. (5:30) If it scales to AP, that might support other sorcerers being 8-C physically, as a Zealot required multiple slams from the Cloak to subdue (1:02)
 
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Dinobot1996 said:
If Strange gets 8-C durability for withstanding a pumpkin bomb explosion at close range, I wonder if that would scale to any other sorcerers. Do we have any reason to assume that Strange's physical AP/durability significantly increased along with his magical power between the 2016 movie and Infinity War?
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The inverse square law must be applied to see how much energy it received from the explosion.
 
Supernatural Willpower (Solely moved his soul back into his body)
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That isn't willpower, I mean, he probably does have supernatural willpower, just not for that.

Also Goblin needs enhanced senses, could hear a drop of blood fall onto a wooden floor, or at least, he sensed it to some degree.
 
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That isn't willpower, I mean, he probably does have supernatural willpower, just not for that.

Also Goblin needs enhanced senses, could hear a drop of blood fall onto a wooden floor, or at least, he sensed it to some degree.
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There’s a ton of Raimi abilities I’m honestly hoping to cover, but I forgot about that one admittedly so thank you. This would also apply to Harry

So is the other ability like…Self-Soul Manip?
 
Does Doc Ock's existing power set cover his resistance to electricity? It's why his arms were immune to Electro's powers and the mini-sun after all.
 
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Does Doc Ock's existing power set cover his resistance to electricity? It's why his arms were immune to Electro's powers and the mini-sun after all.
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It’s a resistance he has, though should he be exposed to electricity via the retractable blades on the arms, he’s very much so vulnerable, as proven in SM2. However, this is only for his arms

Something we can note for weaknesses
 
  • Holland and Garfield the best parts of the movie, easily
  • Villains were enjoyable to watch, liked Molina and Dafoe especially.
  • First half was pretty lame, Second half quickly picked up
  • Venom and Charlie Cox got wasted, badly. They got Charlie cox for a fan service cameo and we never saw him again. J Jonah Jameson subplot was very empty and it was sidelined (Edit: Turns out there is a symbiote that was left behind as seen in the mid credits scene, didn't see that, don't get why they built it up though)
  • I don't laugh at movie jokes much, but many of the jokes felt out of place, humor between the spider-man's was good enough to get a smile
  • Direction of the movie felt kind of clunky, as I said above, the movie seemed to have 2 plots, and it could have gotten the 2 plots tied together without it seeming there were 2 movies.
  • The final fight scene actually felt meaningful this time, although the CGI for Tobey saving Osborn was terrible, so bad it made him look like those old bully Maguire memes.
  • Aunt's May death actually felt emotional
  • Ending of the movie was actually amazing.
  • Wished we got a "YOU WILL GET YOUR RENT WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR!!!!" joke, or the spider-man pointing meme

6/10 overall, spider verse was better.
 
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I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die said:
  • Holland and Garfield the best parts of the movie, easily
  • Villains were enjoyable to watch, liked Molina and Dafoe especially.
  • First half was pretty lame, Second half quickly picked up
  • Venom and Charlie Cox got wasted, badly. They got Charlie cox for a fan service cameo and we never saw him again. J Jonah Jameson subplot was very lacking and it was sidelined
  • I don't laugh at movie jokes much, but many of the jokes felt out of place, humor between the spider-man's was good enough to get a smile
  • Direction of the movie felt kind of clunky.
  • The final fight scene actually felt meaningful this time.
  • Aunt's May death actually felt emotional
  • Ending of the movie was actually amazing.

6/10 overall, spider verse was better.
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We all know Spiderverse is the best Spider-Man movie
Hopefully the sequel can be even better, it even had part of the Unlimited them in the trailer
 
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