Paralysis Inducement via Social Influence seems iffy, as inducing paralysis into someone is supernatural when social influence isn't. I also think Paralysis Inducement via Fear Inducement is kinda weird as Mikey has never shown actually making someone freeze on the place via inducing fear in them like the scenes you linked. I think this scene should only be taken as Paralysis Inducement as it's a complete new thing Mikey did.
There are cases where people couldn't move their body parts by just being afraid, and it's known as emotional paralysis, and it can occur from complete fear as well, where your body doesn't readily move despite you trying to move it. It can occur when you are socially influenced as well, for example, many people are scared of snakes, and you might have heard that people were scared of them and couldn't move, or their actions were delayed.
Nah the definition legit misses the premise of this feat completely. I wouldn't say that South felt "stuck in place" here lol. He geniunely just froze on place and he even realized it before Mikey released his Aura. This alone should prove that this Paralysis wasn't caused by his Fear Inducement at all.
Mikey didn't release his Aura to freeze South as you can see here. He only released it after South was completely frozen. I don't think freezing someone in place with a stare should count as Social Influence as Paralysis Inducement is supernatural when Social Influence isn't.
Not even against Hanma, tho Hanma got scared and stopped
I could understand this, but if this was the case, it should have never been removed, just like most of these abilities since Mikey already has had most of these abilities before but were removed for some reason
Ah, I guess you're kinda right then. Freezing people completely is still a new thing Mikey performs though. Kakucho was still able to move, Hanma could still move, Senju was only frozen from Mikey's stare and Thought Bug (I explained above) and she was able to move right after Mikey took his eyes away from her. I think this should be "Paralysis Inducement via Fear Inducement" as the ability page for Paralysis Inducement itself states that Fear Manipulation can be a cause of a character getting Paralysis Inducement.
I agree with this. It basically sounds like Mikey has multiple ways to paralyze his opponent, just like my point for resistance to analytical prediction
I mean, Mikey pretty much does that via sheer speed. It might upgrade his Reactive Power but that's probably it.
Pressure Points, Info Analysis, Afterimage Creation, Perception Manipulation, Illusion Creation, Fear Inducement Limited Durability Negation all have two staff approvals atm. I will write which keys will have the abilties after we solve the Paralysis Inducement issue.
of course they don't outright become stone, they have a natural reaction but still kakucho didn't do a shit for stopping Mikey / run away, while before he was hitting him and screaming, there is an enormous difference
Is the normal reaction of a human cause by fear, overall he was blocked
Same here
"after Mikey too his eyes away from her" exactly, Mikey's stare is exactly what causes fear so....
I dont think he beat Izana with pure speed. Remember, Mikey's reactive power is like a reactionary boost. When Mikey used it against Takemichi he instantly boosted his speed once he figured out his foresight.
South did though. That's the difference.
Same goes to this.
Mikey took his eyes away from South though. He had to dislocate Takemichi's arm to get him outta the way and South couldn't move a muscle during all that. Again, South's case isn't the same.
Paralysis Inducement is completely stopping someone's movement or preventing an opponent from coordinating their movements. Mikey's opponents could still partially move and react when Mikey induced fear in them with the exception of South. South's case was different as he couldn't even move a muscle.
The full scene is here. South's "reaction" is just South uncontrollably shaking and uncontrollably shaking doesn't make Paralysis Inducement invalid as it still prevents South from having a proper reaction or moving.
The difference is, again, Mikey revealed his Aura aganist Senju where he didn't aganist South (he did it after South was paralyzed). That's the whole point. You can see that Mikey has "Aura" in his profile. That means he induces fear into people using the Aura of his Dark Impulse (I already talked about it above). That's why Senju felt a "murderous vibe" when South simply couldn't move.
I already explained how Mikey's DI was supernatural above actually. It's about the general universe of Tokyo Revengers. Also, Mikey's DI is straight up a curse that originated from the Time Leaping ability his older brother had. Like how can Dark Impulse be completely natural?
all I'm saying is that paralyze inducement derives from fear inducement/social influence, that's it
That would get him Paralysis Inducement via Fear Inducement then? Even Paralysis inducement page lists Fear Manipulation as a possible cause of Paralysis. You told me this above and I agreed with you lol.
We kinda thought that this was kind of a Fear Inducement thiny actually. This is possible as well but Dereck disagreed with it as South was already beaten down and severly injured which could've been the reason why he was frozen in place. I don't agree to that for the same reasoning as Grath though.
Thanks for helping out. We'll wait for staff's input to conclude the thread then.
Bro no, I study medicine and stuff, and I have shown interests in subjects of psychology as well.
Fear Manipulation is listed as a cause for Paralysis Inducement so Mikey having Fear Inducement doesn't make his Paralysis Inducement invalid. Also to add, South just fights when he activates his Urges. He legit doesn't think of anything but violence. I don't understand how something natural will stop him like that.
Even if you were to give him Fear Inducement, it's highly inconsistent.
No.Even if you were to give him Fear Inducement, it's highly inconsistent.
For starters, he didn't scare off Sanzu and Hanma.
This is pure Social Influencing and no Paralysis Inducement, it basically happened a single time with South, and that too when South was incredibly damaged and possibly even Socially Influenced. People like Chifuyu and Senju were ready to fight against Mikey's gang and Mikey, which basically means that they aren't induced with fear as well. If you give Mikey Fear Inducement, all of these will have Resistance to it, which would be like trying to give other characters an ability which they don't have just to give Mikey an ability which he himself shouldn't have.
It's better to delete it if we're going to have absurd results like Shion being comparable to characters like Baji
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To me, it seems like it's due to Mikey targetting his pressure points.
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