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RWBY's Old Calcs Has Became MRKs Overtime

TheRustyOne said:
If a calc group accepts this, then the RWBY Volume 6 cast should be upgraded. Either to at least 8-B, likely 8-A, or baseline 8-A for causing slight damage to the Colossus and making it stumble.
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I dont think that's how that works due to size difference, if it's only negligible damage on a very small area of it, it'd be no diferent then an ant biting a human.
 
Wrong, the difference isn't that big. An ant can't force you to the ground, and Cordovin even activated shields to prevent them from damaging the mech any further.

The cast are currently 19 tons, they should not be capable of even scratching something that's over 30X more durable than they're ap.
 
That has more to do with strentgh, you can still launch something if you're strong enough, just not damage it exactly, Best thing I can think of is Saitama and the buff beetle dude, it was ragdolling Saitama but doing zero damage. Knocking it over is a good strength feat but unless they damaged it a noticeable degree or overcame its ke, idk if you can scale it in full.

>The cast are currently 19 tons, they should not be capable of even scratching something that's over 30X more durable than they're ap.

That doesnt mean they scale in full though if it's negligible damage, it just means they were stronger then they were.
 
They aren't scaling in full, I didn't say that.

At best they're still almost 6X weaker than the mech.
 
TheRustyOne said:
They aren't scaling in full, I didn't say that.
At best they're still almost 6X weaker than the mech.
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Well figure out how much they'd scale. 6x seems a bit random but if you can figure out an actual amount then fine by me I guess.
 
It's agreeded that a 7X difference is enough to one shot someone and be immune to any of their attacks (Not including hax). So they have to a least be around that strong to force the mech off it's blance, and even cause large gashes.

An ant can't do this to you.
 
TheRustyOne said:
It's agreeded that a 7X difference is enough to one shot someone and be immune to any of their attacks (Not including hax).
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One-Shot, "This gap is Strictly for versus debating and cannot be used for scaling.
 
I know, I was giving an example. They won't have a solid number, either at least 8-B, likely higher or Baseline 8-A.
 
Even the x7 it's a small difference, take into account that the baseline 9-B feat was performed by a human, did you really think that it would be completely unharmed by a baseline 9-C, or unaffected by a normal human with a knife?
 
I am relatively sure RWBY would be one of the verses affected by earthquake revision... which would make this a moot discussion.
 
Nico-v11 said:
The Colossus makes even the city area shake so it's equivalent to an Earthquake.
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True, although it's close proximity and above-ground focus means that it might not need be a Magnitude 4 Earthquake.
 
TheRustyOne said:
We aren't talking about the Earthquake though, we're talking about it's Kinetic Energy.
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Actually, there are a few things. For one, the whole stab thing assumes that it went in deeper than it did. Not by a lot, but it still assumes some more.

When I tried to measure the distance (comparing the width of the visible drill post-stab, and the other seeing the visible length), and I got about 150px.

One last thing, and this might just be me, but doesn't that one frame thing seem just... bad animation? Just a few frames before it was moving far slower, it did nothing to accelerate in the air, and then it just suddenly cut to it being already penetrated. I feel like this was just them not wanting to put in the work of animatic the process of the grimm being stabbed more than it suddenly becoming nearly ten times faster then half a second ago (when it was already in the air, mind you).
 
I went through frame by frame and choose the best one I could see. I just check that entire scene frame by frame, the speed seems pretty consistant, nothing outrages like tens times faster.

However, you're right about the drill, I miscounted the lines. I'll fix that, also I should probably get the mass of that drill, it seem to slip past my mind when I was doing that.
 
Add the mass of that drill then its probably small town level then the gang is 100% Multi-cityblock level
 
Does anyone think that a hollowness of 90% is too much? Does that mech look 90% hollow? Maybe something like 80% instead?
 
I'll be commenting throughly on the calcs and "scaling" in a bit, there's issues with both, mostly the latter.
 
Dargoo, do you think that there are any other feats worth looking at? Is there anything you wanted calculated that never was?
 
TheRustyOne said:
It's agreeded that a 7X difference is enough to one shot someone and be immune to any of their attacks (Not including hax). So they have to a least be around that strong to force the mech off it's blance, and even cause large gashes.
An ant can't do this to you.
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90% of that is knockback, which isn't actually overcoming durability in any way, but rather hitting with enough force to move it off-balance.

An 8-B scythe strike with a bladed weapon concentrating all its force on such a small part of the mech would absolutely do something like that to an 8-A, even a Low 7-C. The mech running/attacking something would spread the force uniformly around the body (with the force concentrated on the impact point, the drill, so you could actually see how much durability that specific area would have needed to not fall apart from the force of that charge compared to the force Ruby is hitting it with over a certain area.

Additionally, from the way we see Ruby cut the mech, it appears to be hollow (in that area), otherwise we'd see solid or semisolid steel as we look in. Did you also account for the cannon arm, which has a large cavity inside?

TheRustyOne said:
Dargoo, do you think that there are any other feats worth looking at? Is there anything you wanted calculated that never was?
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Sure. Knowing the value for this would be helpful in debunking the 8-A/Low 7-C calcs as an anti-feat.
 
They discounted the cannon, since that arm fell off by the time it yeeted itself into the Leviathan
 
Why are we assuming all the other parts of the mech don't have that kind of hollowness?
 
Because they don't, you aren't going to say that entire thing is 90% hollow. The only reason I use 90% hollowness for the head is because it's design to be entered.

We see it open up and it's clearly hollow. Hollowness for machines is 30%, and the rest of the body isn't meant to be entered. It also couldn't hold it's own weight if it were 90% hollow.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Because they don't, you aren't going to say that entire thing is 90% hollow. The only reason I use 90% hollowness for the head is because it's design to be entered.
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What says they don't?

She didn't directly punch into the cockpit, otherwise we would have seen something from Cordovin's POV indicating it went into her compartment. It went into a separate area of the heat that wasn't the cockpit.

TheRustyOne said:
We see it open up and it's clearly hollow. Hollowness for machines is 30%, and the rest of the body isn't meant to be entered. It also couldn't hold it's own weight if it were 90% hollow.
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I mean, the mech clearly isn't regular machinery, so that standard is a bit iffy.

Oh please. We're talking about super-durable metal that can somehow withstand nuclear levels of force being applied to the drill and you're concerned about it holding its own weight?
 
Since nothing is supposed to be in it, I feel like some lesser hollowness (50% or something like that) should be fine...

But how much of that is steel, I have no idea. When Rwby and co. tore into it it didn't really seem to have that thick of a steel armor, or whatever metal it is.
 
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