Actually, there is, but they're very loose. And there were plans to remove hundreds or thousands given the existence of multiple steps of upscaling, but not sure if it was ever applied. Not so much argument against the proposals, but still something with loose standards none of the less.
Could you explain how this goes against the stacking? To me, it just seems like a guideline but I could be wrong.
You are choosing not to address my point and I don't understand why?
Not sure if this is what you’re asking, but isn’t that what Raynare says when she mocked Issei’s first Boost by saying 1 doubled only amounts to 2?
I mean beyond just the doubling. Like is there anywhere the series acknowledges the extent of these multipliers beyond just the 2x amount. That's what I am asking. Like 20 doubles would already be a multiplier of a million. Does the series mention or hint at this whatsoever?
I don't think he's trying to pass off some new multipliers, he's trying to pass off accepted AP values related to the x2 boost. You're gonna have to explain your position a bit more simpler as I genuinely do not understand what you're disagreeing with.
I'm disagreeing with the multiplier stacking, because I do not see enough evidence to support its consistency within the verse.
Can you point me to multiplier stacking on the blog? From what I see it's just a x2 power increase but you just multiply the new power level by 2 again.
Yes, what you just described is multiplier stacking.
Is that not how the series describes it? His current power doubled?
He's going too
Oh….then what’s the point of this thread anymore? I’m sure even the others can agree to the rating then
Masque wants to propose AP Values with boost from what I can tell but he’s still gonna have higher with boost.
In fact, in the same blog, Masque does not show how the booster gear indicates the amount of Boost in turn how Issei's power increases.
He's not using random numbers he's saying it doubles power it's always beenx2 lol
Sorry for the late response, missed my bus back home.
I mean, if you feel that way, sure ig? But I disagree.
DxD isn't OPM and I'm not sure what an "exponential graph multiplier" is but not liking something doesn't mean that it isn't valid or correct. And not believing it isn't either.
No but it doesn't need to, nowhere on the Multipliers page is it stated that that's a requirement.
Not sure what else to say, view the statement parts of the blog again. If that still isn't enough then I'd just say you're being oppositional without any valid justification. It not conforming to your standards doesn't mean that it doesn't conform to the wiki's.
Thought I'd also mention that the Raynare stuff was hyperbolic, just her cocky way of saying that she's far above Issei. DxD doesn't have a power level system and if it did, it is HIGHLY unlikely that Issei and Raynare would conveniently have a power level of exactly 1 and 1,000. And even if it was the case, Raynare is an extremely unreliable character. Despite her being a Fallen Angel, she couldn't recognize one of the most well known and infamous Sacred Gears in history, couldn't tell Issei was growing stronger throughout the fight, and compared V1 Issei with a few boosts to a high class devil.
Uh, no, Issei wouldn't reach Galaxy Level with 20 Boosts. And if everyone would actually read everything presented in the threads rather than basing their arguments off of incomplete information, I believe the conversation would go much smoother. For now, I'll specifically show examples of this. And Issei rarely uses more than 14 Boosts at a time in his later forms (IMT/CxC) because his body wouldn't be able to contain the power, in DxD/PDxD, he only ever uses 1 Boost. Though 20 Boosts in his Base are easy.
Yeah, one mistake I gotta correct is the four boosts during the Raynare fight part of the blog. I'll admit that I messed up there, I'll take care of it in the morning. :3
It’s not ambiguous per se, but @Phoenks wants to see statements that Issei got a certain amount stronger from using Boost. However, the closest example of a number would be the Raynare comparison of Issei’s PL doubling from 1 to 2. There’s not really anything else other than the constant doubling/halving and multiplication statements, which are already in @MasqueTLDF blog.
I think Saji's "Issei can become over a thousand times stronger" statement works in this context but yeah, I agree.
Can I see this scan!??
I literally sent it here
Edit: here's a few moreUh, no, Issei wouldn't reach Galaxy Level with 20 Boosts. And if everyone would actually read everything presented in the threads rather than basing their arguments off of incomplete information, I believe the conversation would go much smoother. For now, I'll specifically show examples of this. And Issei rarely uses more than 14 Boosts at a time in his later forms (IMT/CxC) because his body wouldn't be able to contain the power, in DxD/PDxD, he only ever uses 1 Boost. Though 20 Boosts in his Base are easy.
Edit: Y'all are acting like it's ^2^2^2^2
Also, perhaps a statement like this was what you all were referring to? Just in case this statement's relation to the Boosted Gear is questioned, I'll explain why it specifically refers to the powers of the BG. Firstly, the mention of miracles have almost always been portrayed as referring to the BG (And by extension, Issei/Oppai)/Sacred Gears. Second, narratively, it'd make sense for Saji to have jealousy toward Issei's Boosted Gear (Also shown via the subtle comparisons between the weakest Dragon King, Vritra and the Strongest Heavenly Dragon, Ddraig throughout the volume and Saji's acceptance at the end of their second fight that he's still strong.) and an understanding of it being a major source of his strength, after all, far before this scene (during volume 5), Saji's plan during his fight with Issei was to specifically stop him from Boosting, not from using his BxB or anything else. Third, when it comes to basic power increases like the ones that Saji was referring to, the most notable one in reference to Issei would be Boosts as it's his and the Boosted Gear's main ability.
It doesn’t say what value it’s multiplied by. Could be five times, could be 7.5 times. Who knows.
Yeah, that's why I questioned its use. Hopefully one day, we'll find more info for Promotion.
K, just to clarify, you still disagree with the Speed/Light stuff? No Problem.
So what multiples are we using?
