Unless he deliberately start destabilizing the wiki and/or start problems on site in regards to this, I frankly don't care what he comments off site.I have been sent some additional screenshots pointing towards their actual stance on the wiki.
I have attached them here for completion.
Having watched his comments on various threads, he has yet to reflect trolling behavior. Instead, he has actually participated in discussions.
Indeed, it may also just be that they're particularly dramatic, which we definitely have seen.
Yeah, fully possible. And again I both thank you and apologize for me being wrong. But I was almost certain it was him? Though It can have just been a similar named account.
not to draw off topic I will take the 1 week ban. I accept any punishment you give. Should have worded it better then I did no taking it back so just best just to up hold my beliefs and move on with past mistakes.
The truth is that you didn't have to say any of that in the first place. It was uncalled for.
I've added it to the tracker.
Oh yeah btw, how can you see how many warns a user has?
We have a dedicated thread
I disagree personally. Worse he did was called someone an idiot and a clown.
They also called people "rats", and did not seem remorseful or willing to change in the slightest in this report.
pedophiles as weII, muItipIe times, if I might add, they refer to the whoIe site as being fiIIed with pedophiIes, I dont think that is just an insuIt to a singIe user or thread anymore.
A 1 week ban doesn't achieve this? When we have given warning for comparatively worse behavior than name calling.That is not remotely acceptable behaviour though. We generally try to heavily discourage that kind of hostility here.
The second part is why I advocated for a ban at all. And it's also not entirely true, he did accept the ban.
Off site. Didn't once brought that up on site (unless on PM, which I can't see). People can say whatever they want in their own privacy, and the fact you keep bringing this up makes me think there's more at play here.
not reaIIy, that pedophiIe one was an SS someone sent me on discord. If something made you think that I have an aIterior motive here because of how I used the SS, I apologize, but I do not have much experience with user reports except maybe once or twice before, so I might have been deemed as acting hurriedly or something due to my inexperience with this stuff
If they tried using that to harass someone on site, then we would take it more seriously. But as is, it's just salty comments from someone that disagree with how we handle things. It's completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.not reaIIy, that pedophiIe one was an SS someone sent me on discord. If something made you think that I have an aIterior motive here because of how I used the SS, I apologize, but I do not have much experience with user reports except maybe once or twice before, so I might have been deemed as acting hurriedly or something due to my inexperience with this stuff
Taking a closer look: These scans don't seem to be made in response to the thread at all. They were made several months ago. (1 of them close to a year ago)
Just a question here... is there really any consideration of how long ago such behaviour occured when it comes to punishing them?
I would not ask for a "duration where actions are automatically forgiven after said duration has passed", but I was wondering more about whether there is a "duration after which discussion of lifting of punishment for actions is possible (NOT guaranteed unless the perpetrator has shown evidence that they are unlikely to repeat such actions)"... but from the sound of it, as you say, there is no set duration for either case. (I would disagree that five months is an insignificant amount of time, but given the severity of Rider's actions, I would agree that 2+ months is necessary at best.)
I do think we might need to specify more clearly which actions are permanently punishable and thus usually leading to the permanent ban of the perpetrators as well as what sorts of punishments are expected in general for quite a few of the prohibited actions....
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While I find the suggestion useful, could you move this instead to Bambu's wall and/or PMs so as to not spam the thread?I would not ask for a "duration where actions are automatically forgiven after said duration has passed", but I was wondering more about whether there is a "duration after which discussion of lifting of punishment for actions is possible (NOT guaranteed unless the perpetrator has shown evidence that they are unlikely to repeat such actions)"... but from the sound of it, as you say, there is no set duration for either case. (I would disagree that five months is an insignificant amount of time, but given the severity of Rider's actions, I would agree that 2+ months is necessary at best.)
Also, there's still the second part of my question (sorry, but I still do want to double check about this):
I do think we might need to specify more clearly which actions are permanently punishable and thus usually leading to the permanent ban of the perpetrators as well as what sorts of punishments are expected in general for quite a few of the prohibited actions....
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Alright, thanks for the notice and suggestion.
Avoiding cluttering/derailing the thread too much while also notifying staff at the same time regarding what me and Mr Bambu have discussed along with Lephyr's suggestion and Bambu's advice using short replies:
Zeona’s behavior was kinda toxic, I agree on that,but it was probably in defense of me, as me and a few others were talking about his behavior in our type-moon group.
This doesn't even seem warning worthy imo, they haven't broken any rules. That also wasn't their first post, this was.
That's a blunder on my end, because I didn't see there was still the "Show Older Items" option. I don't think he made the account just to do this, no, but a deeper look shows that this is actually his very first message in the Nasuverse General Discussion Thread - and that doesn't bode well at all.
Instances of making fun of other people's scaling, for one
