Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I have been sent some additional screenshots pointing towards their actual stance on the wiki.
I have attached them here for completion.

Unless he deliberately start destabilizing the wiki and/or start problems on site in regards to this, I frankly don't care what he comments off site.

I do think it's important to consider their intentions too.

It may be that they're only here to troll us, and their comments offsite suggest that may be the case.

Having watched his comments on various threads, he has yet to reflect trolling behavior. Instead, he has actually participated in discussions.

I may have missed something tho.

 

[FinePoint]

Unless he deliberately start destabilizing the wiki and/or start problems on site in regards to this, I frankly don't care what he comments off site.
Having watched his comments on various threads, he has yet to reflect trolling behavior. Instead, he has actually participated in discussions.
I may have missed something tho.

Indeed, it may also just be that they're particularly dramatic, which we definitely have seen.
For the record: I am also in support of a week ban, but I wouldn't be upset if it was longer.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Looking at various Tensura threads and his posting history, he doesn't seem to have a prior case at all. You may have mistaken him for another member.

Yeah, fully possible. And again I both thank you and apologize for me being wrong. But I was almost certain it was him? Though It can have just been a similar named account.

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

Unless he deliberately start destabilizing the wiki and/or start problems on site in regards to this, I frankly don't care what he comments off site.


Having watched his comments on various threads, he has yet to reflect trolling behavior. Instead, he has actually participated in discussions.

I may have missed something tho.

not to draw off topic I will take the 1 week ban. I accept any punishment you give. Should have worded it better then I did no taking it back so just best just to up hold my beliefs and move on with past mistakes.

anyways. Time will show the truth in the matter

 

[ByAsura]

Ok, I've applied the ban.

Time will show the truth in the matter

The truth is that you didn't have to say any of that in the first place. It was uncalled for.

 

[MrKerf]

Hajun111 makes questionable, to say the least, changes to pages (which are reverted now though) and created a blank page. I think he just needs some guidance tbh.

 

[FinePoint]

Hajun111 makes questionable, to say the least, changes to pages (which are reverted now though) and created a blank page. I think he just needs some guidance tbh.

That report goes here.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Ok, I've applied the ban.

I've added it to the tracker.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

I've added it to the tracker.

Oh yeah btw, how can you see how many warns a user has?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Oh yeah btw, how can you see how many warns a user has?

We have a dedicated thread

Beyond that I go through threads one by one to double check when there's nothing in the tracker for the user

 

[Antvasima]

I personally think that 1 week is a too low ban length for LifeRider given his repeated disrespectful toxicity. I think that 1 month seems more appropriate.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I personally think that 1 week is a too low ban length for LifeRider given his repeated disrespectful toxicity. I think that 1 month seems more appropriate.

I disagree personally. Worse he did was called someone an idiot and a clown.

 

[Antvasima]

That is not remotely acceptable behaviour though. We generally try to heavily discourage that kind of hostility here.

 

[FinePoint]

I disagree personally. Worse he did was called someone an idiot and a clown.

They also called people "rats", and did not seem remorseful or willing to change in the slightest in this report.

if you think its a "insult" i think your siding with rats and not worth to talk to

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

They also called people "rats", and did not seem remorseful or willing to change in the slightest in this report.

pedophiles as weII, muItipIe times, if I might add, they refer to the whoIe site as being fiIIed with pedophiIes, I dont think that is just an insuIt to a singIe user or thread anymore.

 

[ByAsura]

That falls under off-site behaviour.

Anyway, I think extending the ban to anywhere between 2 weeks to 1 month is fine. I don't really have any strong opinion there.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

That is not remotely acceptable behaviour though. We generally try to heavily discourage that kind of hostility here.

A 1 week ban doesn't achieve this? When we have given warning for comparatively worse behavior than name calling.

They also called people "rats", and did not seem remorseful or willing to change in the slightest in this report.

The second part is why I advocated for a ban at all. And it's also not entirely true, he did accept the ban.

Like, 1 month ban for petty insults? Doesn't sit well with me when we have given warnings for severely worse behavior (like fujiwara unironically and straight on site advocating for the alienation and persecution of a user because they find him disgusting). Like keep in mind, in all the threads he has participated, this is the worse behavior displayed. 1 week ban is enough imo.

pedophiles as weII, muItipIe times, if I might add, they refer to the whoIe site as being fiIIed with pedophiIes, I dont think that is just an insuIt to a singIe user or thread anymore.

Off site. Didn't once brought that up on site (unless on PM, which I can't see). People can say whatever they want in their own privacy, and the fact you keep bringing this up makes me think there's more at play here.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

and the fact you keep bringing this up makes me think there's more at play here.

not reaIIy, that pedophiIe one was an SS someone sent me on discord. If something made you think that I have an aIterior motive here because of how I used the SS, I apologize, but I do not have much experience with user reports except maybe once or twice before, so I might have been deemed as acting hurriedly or something due to my inexperience with this stuff

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

not reaIIy, that pedophiIe one was an SS someone sent me on discord. If something made you think that I have an aIterior motive here because of how I used the SS, I apologize, but I do not have much experience with user reports except maybe once or twice before, so I might have been deemed as acting hurriedly or something due to my inexperience with this stuff

If they tried using that to harass someone on site, then we would take it more seriously. But as is, it's just salty comments from someone that disagree with how we handle things. It's completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

If he had otherwise said that on site, that's a different story.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

While Rider's comments about VSBW are largely offsite, I think it can be considered a form of harassment to, when you are being disagreed with in a CRT, head to Reddit to call your opposition pedophiles. Mixed with the pretty cruel shit he said onsite, and a general disposition to not accept that he had done wrong, declaring that all he was doing was entirely above board, paints a dreadful picture.

Without the offsite intel, I probably would have just shot for a topic ban. With it, I think it should be a full ban, and for a longer period, as rarely do instances of toxicity reach such a boiling point, much less with such a remorseless demeanor. I would therefore propose 1-2 months. If readjustment is achievable on their end by that time, then all the better.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I'm outvoted then.

 

[Antvasima]

I am also fine with a 2 months ban given the new information.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

pedophiles as weII, muItipIe times, if I might add, they refer to the whoIe site as being fiIIed with pedophiIes, I dont think that is just an insuIt to a singIe user or thread anymore.

Taking a closer look: These scans don't seem to be made in response to the thread at all. They were made several months ago. (1 of them close to a year ago)

So this part of Bambu's evaluation seems incorrect:

when you are being disagreed with in a CRT, head to Reddit to call your opposition pedophiles

Edit: Whether that changes the verdict I leave up to you, but got mentioned to me and felt it important to note.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

If the calling of tensura fans pedophiles occurred five months ago, I still don't think that changes much. He disagreed with them and so spouted off that they were legitimate, disgusting criminals- I don't really care that it happened awhile back.