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A non-permanent but long topic ban from Dragon Ball seems best to me.
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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
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I agree with this.
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I think that we already made this change in our forum settings.
Okay. That may be better then.
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That seems fine, yes.
I do not mind if you add a thread ban to the Dragon Ball general discussion thread that lasts for as long as the general topic ban.
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Hmm. It seems to not work as intended anymore. I will inform our forum system manager about this.
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Yeah, I know and admit it isn’t justified.
I’m going to need something more specific, if that’s the case. What exactly counts as criticism, as opposed to “blowing up” and “bashing“. And which category do memes about the wiki fall into? As far as I’ve seen a strict guideline to discern this doesn’t exist here.
I won’t agree or disagree with this, that’s entirely your decision.
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Those two sound the same, unless I’m mistaken?
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Criticism: "We really need to fix our pixel scaling standards, they're pretty bad as is."
Bashing: "This wiki f---ing sucks and can't be fixed."
The wiki isn't perfect, nothing made by people is, and everyone is making an effort to improve it even if we don't all agree how best to proceed. I agree with DDM that there's little benefit to overt bashing of the wiki as a whole and just contributes to a toxic and negative atmosphere. The primary purpose of the forums is to improve the wiki, not to regard it as hopeless, corrupt, stupid, et cetera.
However, it should be clear that this is not the most crucial element of the report, and the primary punishment being considered (a topic ban from DBZ) is not really regarding this.
The distinction would be whether or not it is permanent.
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I'm generally in favor of a topic ban from Dragon Ball, just not a permanent one
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@MeiouHades; a meme is an inappropriate post on the Rule Violation Reports thread and definitely will hurt.
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I mean I wanted to post it in the DB thread but I can’t for obvious reason. Idk just felt funny and appropriate given the situation
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So if and when there’s an agreement on how long the topic ban should be, is it possible for me to know the duration? If so please do inform me, I could set a reminder for myself and take time off from the wiki until then
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I don't take these things personally and I am least bothered with it. I am neutral, so whatever the rest of the staff members decide is good with me.
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As I told Antvasima when he messaged me about it, I still think that Charmander's multiple cases of sock-puppeting deserves a perma-ban regardless of his apology over his previous comments.
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This dude been insulting people in nearly every message in the DBS discussion thread. Bro been hostile af for no good or logical reason
We seem to need further help to decide what we should do regarding the above cases.
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On Godlycharmander: Neutral. I think AKM and Damage should decide, since they were the target of Charmander’s tantrum that prompted his permaban.
Of course, if they are to be unbanned it should be on a last chance basis.
On MeiouHades: In general I do agree with the sentiment that users that are only here to the bash the site and incite drama ought to not be around.
Nevertheless, since a site ban is considered too harsh I agree with a topic ban from Dragon Ball threads.
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Fine with me.
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Okay. That seems fine then. Is somebody in our staff willing to post a message about the decision on @MeiouHades' forum message wall?
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Everyone who has commented has said they're neutral except me. But I have to point out our rules on sock-puppeting:
Charmander's original ban was 1 year, extended to perma-ban at his own request.
His block duration being greatly increased per the multiple sock-puppeting offenses he's commited means that it should be straightforward to simply continue the perma-ban.
Is there anything else that needs covered?
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Char's behavior was absolutely dreadful leading up to his ban and he furthermore circumvented his one-year mandatory ban with sockpuppets in the meanwhile. That in my mind has earned him at least a few years of being out, if not removed the chance of him ever appealing his permaban entirely.
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I already commented on both. Medou's topic ban being 6 months seems fine. And Considering AKM is neutral while Damage thinks the permanent ban should remain, I am also leaning towards the latter. And it seems other staff agree with leaning towards the ban remaining. But how about if they promise to not cause any further trouble such as not making a single sock for a year or two, they may attempt in appeal then.
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I, too, would defer to the more involved staff members regarding GodlyCharmander. The offenses are serious enough, if Damage leans more towards a ban then I agree with a ban. As Crab says, a perma-ban wouldn't be unreasonable given the stacked offenses. I do think his apology was at least partly genuine, however.
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Surprised I wasn't called.
I'm highly against him being brought around this time period as it'd be the year of his initial ban + the penalties of being a sockpuppet.
I wouldn't say a permaban's too harsh, but at the very least it should be another year from today
I second this.
I'm highly against him being brought around this time period as it'd be the year of his initial ban + the penalties of being a sockpuppet.
I wouldn't say a permaban's too harsh, but at the very least it should be another year from today
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Uh, so... Apparently @Vapourrrr made a "Vapourrrr calculations wiki" making TR calcs and asked other users to share them on this wiki.
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Okay, so should Charmander's ban be permanent or last for another year or two?
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Bringing this back, but now with DekuGlazer's account... It has all the signs of being a sock too. They joined 3 days before HollowVanity, they also used the "pal" when talking which I've almost never seen anyone use but Hollow.
Some other user commented that they had an idea of who it could be in an ironic way, I am sure they are referring to a sock in this thread, besides the form of debate is the same. Apart from the fact that they has only commented on Tokyo Revenger stuff.
And very suspicious that the person who added them to Tokyo Revenger Supporters was Hollow and not themself.
And now this, it is DekuGlazer who asks to evaluate Vapourrrr's calculations, this is more than suspicious.
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I see a duration of 6 months was agreed upon, but my question is, what do I do with a Dragon Ball calc I‘ve been working on? It’s basically a calc using a much more accurate method (I’ve explained it in the calc itself) based on principles of projective geometry and volume integrals. I suppose I could wait 6 months to share it but I might not log into the wiki for a while since I’ll be graduating soon and get very busy.
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This guy did a no-no vandalism edit, which I reversed
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I suppose that we can probably make an exception for posting it as a blog in our wiki, and getting that evaluated, but some other member will have to handle any potential content revision thread resulting from it.
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Also, I properly reverted all of the remaining edits for the above-listed accounts, and changed their blocks to include their message walls, to not let them post anything trollish there.This guy did a no-no vandalism edit, which I reversed
Rick Grimes (TV Series)
Richard D. Grimes, better known as Rick, is a survivor of the outbreak in AMC's Television Universe. He is the main protagonist in The Walking Dead. Rick is a former sheriff's deputy who was shot in the line of duty and fell into a coma, only to awaken and find himself in the midst of the...
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We also need to deal with this.
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