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I don't think this warrants a permanent topic ban, but overall a topic ban from Dragon Ball seems most appropriate to me
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A non-permanent but long topic ban from Dragon Ball seems best to me.I've issued a temporary threadban in the Dragon Ball general discussion thread, where most of the drama seems to be happening. I think we could extend that thread ban permanently and then just keep an eye out for other problematic behavior if it arises in dragon ball CRTs or other threads, and then respond accordingly.
I agree with this.A non-permanent but long topic ban from Dragon Ball seems best to me.
I think that we already made this change in our forum settings.That's another thing, I wish instead of pushing the report button on specific posts and making it to where it's limited to Super Mods and Bureaucrats to analyze it, that report worthy comments are simply brought up here and using URL to the specific posts.
Okay. That may be better then.I think a permaban is indeed too harsh given he did apologize and tried to give an honest defense. But some topic bans combined with strict warnings may suffice to me.
That seems fine, yes.A non-permanent but long topic ban from Dragon Ball seems best to me.
I do not mind if you add a thread ban to the Dragon Ball general discussion thread that lasts for as long as the general topic ban.How do we feel about specifically barring him from the Dragon Ball General Discussion Thread? Would we rather just a blanket topic ban on any Dragon Ball Thread, but non-permanent?
Hmm. It seems to not work as intended anymore. I will inform our forum system manager about this.I think that we already made this change in our forum settings.
Yeah, I know and admit it isn’t justified.While having strong opinions about stats is perfectly fine, nothing justifies a hostile attitude or insulting people's intellect.
I’m going to need something more specific, if that’s the case. What exactly counts as criticism, as opposed to “blowing up” and “bashing“. And which category do memes about the wiki fall into? As far as I’ve seen a strict guideline to discern this doesn’t exist here.There is no rule against criticizing the wiki even staff members do that all the time. It's more so blowing up and straight up bashing the wiki is what's against the rules.
I won’t agree or disagree with this, that’s entirely your decision.I'm not going to make arguments that you were the only one being rude; I know a few others who have consistently been rude on Dragon Ball related threads. And I did respond to a comment Null made on the report queue. That's another thing, I wish instead of pushing the report button on specific posts and making it to where it's limited to Super Mods and Bureaucrats to analyze it, that report worthy comments are simply brought up here and using URL to the specific posts.
I think a permaban is indeed too harsh given he did apologize and tried to give an honest defense. But some topic bans combined with strict warnings may suffice to me.
Those two sound the same, unless I’m mistaken?I don't think this warrants a permanent topic ban, but overall a topic ban from Dragon Ball seems most appropriate to me
Criticism: "We really need to fix our pixel scaling standards, they're pretty bad as is."What exactly counts as criticism, as opposed to “blowing up” and “bashing“.
The distinction would be whether or not it is permanent.Those two sound the same, unless I’m mistaken?
I'm generally in favor of a topic ban from Dragon Ball, just not a permanent oneThose two sound the same, unless I’m mistaken?
I mean I wanted to post it in the DB thread but I can’t for obvious reason. Idk just felt funny and appropriate given the situation@MeiouHades; a meme is an inappropriate post on the Rule Violation Reports thread and definitely will hurt.
I don't take these things personally and I am least bothered with it. I am neutral, so whatever the rest of the staff members decide is good with me.Plus, I personally think AKM sama's opinion matters most in that regard given he was the main person who got targeted at the time of the permaban. And other staff opinions are appreciated of course, including Damage.
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This dude been insulting people in nearly every message in the DBS discussion thread. Bro been hostile af for no good or logical reason
On Godlycharmander: Neutral. I think AKM and Damage should decide, since they were the target of Charmander’s tantrum that prompted his permaban.We seem to need further help to decide what we should do regarding the above cases.
Fine with me.How about 6 months topic ban from DBZ?
Everyone who has commented has said they're neutral except me. But I have to point out our rules on sock-puppeting:Also, we still need to make a final verdict regarding Charmander.
Using sock-puppet handles is strongly forbidden, especially to circumvent blocks. Doing so will result in the block duration being greatly increased for all of the relevant accounts.
I already commented on both. Medou's topic ban being 6 months seems fine. And Considering AKM is neutral while Damage thinks the permanent ban should remain, I am also leaning towards the latter. And it seems other staff agree with leaning towards the ban remaining. But how about if they promise to not cause any further trouble such as not making a single sock for a year or two, they may attempt in appeal then.@DarkDragonMedeus @Mr._Bambu @Celestial_Pegasus @Wokistan @Elizhaa @Qawsedf234 @ByAsura @Sir_Ovens @Starter_Pack @Abstractions @LordGriffin1000 @Colonel_Krukov @SamanPatou @GyroNutz @Firestorm808 @Everything12 @Maverick_Zero_X @Crabwhale @Agnaa @Just_a_Random_Butler
We seem to need further help to decide what we should do regarding the above cases.
I second this.Char's behavior was absolutely dreadful leading up to his ban and he furthermore circumvented his one-year mandatory ban with sockpuppets in the meanwhile. That in my mind has earned him at least a few years of being out, if not removed the chance of him ever appealing his permaban entirely.
Okay, so should Charmander's ban be permanent or last for another year or two?Surprised I wasn't called.
I second this.
I'm highly against him being brought around this time period as it'd be the year of his initial ban + the penalties of being a sockpuppet.
I wouldn't say a permaban's too harsh, but at the very least it should be another year from today
Bringing this back, but now with DekuGlazer's account... It has all the signs of being a sock too. They joined 3 days before HollowVanity, they also used the "pal" when talking which I've almost never seen anyone use but Hollow.Here @HollowVanity said @Dalesean027 was trying to downgrade TR and stuff like that (he said the same thing about me right before too).
EDIT: Also... Wasn't Mysticarnage (Vapourrrr) banned for the same reason or something similar? + I want to mention that when @HollowVanity entered the community another account (@DekuGlazer) has been added as TR supporter, his discord name is dekusolos, as you can see in his profile on the wiki, Hollow also commented in a MHA thread time ago but I can't find it.... Anyway @DekuGlazer has 0 edit and I only see him commenting like 2 times, I don't know if both are Vapourrr sockets and he made 2 accounts for idk hiding it somehow, Hollow and Vapourrrr have equal behavior and disrespect towards the staff, not sure here, but I thought it was worth to mention.
I suppose that we can probably make an exception for posting it as a blog in our wiki, and getting that evaluated, but some other member will have to handle any potential content revision thread resulting from it.I see a duration of 6 months was agreed upon, but my question is, what do I do with a Dragon Ball calc I‘ve been working on? It’s basically a calc using a much more accurate method (I’ve explained it in the calc itself) based on principles of projective geometry and volume integrals. I suppose I could wait 6 months to share it but I might not log into the wiki for a while since I’ll be graduating soon and get very busy.
This guy has been vandalizing pages left and right
Also, I properly reverted all of the remaining edits for the above-listed accounts, and changed their blocks to include their message walls, to not let them post anything trollish there.This guy did a no-no vandalism edit, which I reversed
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