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Seems fair.how about nuke every hax DBS have as everything is just another aspect of Ki
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Seems fair.how about nuke every hax DBS have as everything is just another aspect of Ki
I can agreeLet's just remove Dragon Ball from the Wiki.
Sounds like the most reasonable option here. No more changing standards with every CRT.Let's just remove Dragon Ball from the Wiki.
What I meant was that in many cases Hax can be resisted by sheer AP and not because of the character having resistance to it.This is a bait, right? You're just trying to goof up the thread, aren't you?
Time stop was pretty blatant against the mafia boss. Hit even confirmed thatThat is if its a time stop....which is 50:50 toss up as far as I can see.
Time stop was pretty blatant against the mafia boss. Hit even confirmed that
Like i said before, this is Hit pre-ToP Arc, not Hit of U6 vs U7 Arc, you can't backscale his ability like this as he don't have feat of using something similar in U6 vs U7 Tournament.
Just a statement with no feat and it could mean many things on context, and again even if this true, only Goku from ToP onward have resistanceRight after this scene hit confronted goku and goku told him to use his time skip ability and hit refused. This means that Hit believed Time Skip/Stop won't work on goku.
The statement is backed up because in the entire fight hit didn't even try to use time skip or time stop on goku.Just a statement with no feat and it could mean many things on context, and again even if this true, only Goku from ToP onward have resistance
Right after this scene hit confronted goku and goku told him to use his time skip ability and hit refused. This means that Hit believed Time Skip/Stop won't work on goku.
The clip is here.Hit: "This is goodbye."
Goku: "Your attack won't work on me anymore!"
Hit: "Do I look so charitable that I'd use Time-Skip on you again?"
Goku: "I see. Tryin' the same thing as before might be painful again, huh?"
Hit: "There'll be no pain."
Nope, not only Ki exists in DB, Magic too, people seems to always forget that.how about nuke every hax DBS have as everything is just another aspect of Ki
Here "Charitable" likely means that timeskip would be too easy for goku to counter if hit decides to use it.The clip is here.
Hit's response indicates that Hit is confident he could use Time-Skip on Goku, in spite of Goku's claims...
and then immediately after, he used the tides of time, a variation of time-skip.
Yea, but Magic is its own can of beans that has yet to be explained as "thoroughly" as Ki.Nope, not only Ki exists in DB, Magic too, people seems to always forget that.
I have never seen anyone be able to create ice in canon DB, Dabura's fire thing is Magic based, just as his stone spit. And yeah, the electricity thing from Master Roshi and Zamasu is weird tho.Yea, but Magic is its own can of beans that has yet to be explained as "thoroughly" as Ki.
I put thoroughly in quotations, because there is still a lot about Ki that has been unexplained like how you can use it to create fire, ice, and electricity or how it ties into creating balls of light and radiation from the moon. But this is irrelevant.
Hakai was shown to be resisted simply for being stronger. Same goes for Hit's abilitiesHakai only works on people who are weaker than it. Moro's absorption only works on people who are slower than it. Did you see the pattern?
AP and speed>Hax. So lets remove all resistances from DB characters.
Wouldn't Moro hax be an exception for power > hax thing?Hakai was shown to be resisted simply for being stronger. Same goes for Hit's abilities
Moro's point is outright false though. SSG Vegeta was much stronger than Old Moro and he got drained easily
If AP and Speed > DB haxes, then it's a weakness of these haxes, not due to an actual resistance
It is, a 4-B was able to Life drain a 3-B after all....Wouldn't Moro hax be an exception for power > hax thing?
Yes. That is why his point is wrongWouldn't Moro hax be an exception for power > hax thing?
Yeah, taking into account that the AP gap between 4-B and 3-B is ridiculousYes. That is why his point is wrong
idkWhat even is this thread?
While this is correct, Hit's haxes, which is what argued here, follows this rule of AP > haxGoing over this it seems the main argument against this is just a fallacy of composition, just because some hax are overpowered by raw strength doesn’t mean all of them are.
No you and this wiki treats hax as NFL. Dragon Ball doesn't.Hakai was shown to be resisted simply for being stronger. Same goes for Hit's abilities
Moro's point is outright false though. SSG Vegeta was much stronger than Old Moro and he got drained easily
If AP and Speed > DB haxes, then it's a weakness of these haxes, not due to an actual resistance
So no proof then?No you and this wiki treats hax as NFL. Dragon Ball doesn't.
Lol what?Hax resistance is not a thing.
Death Note only works in HumansAnd also hax is literally an ability that ignore AP and allows characters to win regardless of AP (for example, Light Yagami can kill Goku just by writing his name on the Death Note, despite Light being a normal human otherwise).
That wasn't anywhere stated....Death Note only works in Humans
Oh. Didn't knew thatDeath Note only works in Humans
That wasn't anywhere stated....