Dragon ball intelligence rework

[ReaperAndBlues]

wouldn't go that far, they mastered Ultra Instict, just use that as the juatification

Btw does anyone other than Vegeta scales.to Goku in inteligence? Guess not even him since Vegeta didn't got Ultra Instict and such

Vegeta should still scale to him considering he is one of the most skilled in the multiverse alongside Goku, as well as having beaten him in every canon 1v1 including Super Hero when he perfected UI. At worst he'd get a likely rating for it.

As for others, Gohan would get at least genius in combat because of his fight with Goku in the last chapter of DBS. Piccolo has arguments for genius overall so I would hold off on merely giving him anything related to combat.

At the very least the gears are turning to get DBS' intelligence updated. Now all we have to do is find a solid rating for all the Vegetas because the DBS manga says Gifted, anime says above average in general genius in combat, DBZ says genius combatant, and GT says above average.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

His profile says he's equal to Zamasu, but considering he has Goku's muscle memory and the ability to fight Goku 1v1 at his peak, that shit should be changed.

Wasn’t it a specific plot point that Goku Black couldn’t beat Vegeta because he lacked the real Goku’s battle iq? And the only reason Black didn’t finish off Goku and Co. earlier was because he wanted to keep fighting them to learn how to use Goku’s body?

I don’t believe fighting on par with someone is usually enough to scale battle iq without additional statements either.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Wasn’t it a specific plot point that Goku Black couldn’t beat Vegeta because he lacked the real Goku’s battle iq? And the only reason Black didn’t finish off Goku and Co. earlier was because he wanted to keep fighting them to learn how to use Goku’s body?

He did immediately know how to use Goku's moves from his memories when he used it, like when Goku used IT and he used it right back. Vegeta also more or less was talking about him not knowimg how to use his body.

I don’t believe fighting on par with someone is usually enough to scale battle iq without additional statements either.

Well, considering the level of skill Goku has atm and his ability to quickly adapt to having very little martial arts experience against someone of Goku's caliber, he should.

Again, this is also considering Zamasu being gifted in the first place is still a thing when I can challenge the idea and argue genius for his plan and how he ultimately outsmarted the gods.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

To add onto the point I made to Bronic about Gohan, Gohan also created plans on the fly in the TOP and also has a bunch of other feats I can look for, such as adapting to having his eyesight compromised by Lavender

 

[Omegabronic]

Vegeta should still scale to him considering he is one of the most skilled in the multiverse alongside Goku, as well as having beaten him in every canon 1v1 including Super Hero when he perfected UI. At worst he'd get a likely rating for it.

Huh, in Super Hero Goku perfected UI? .....when did that happened?

As for others, Gohan would get at least genius in combat because of his fight with Goku in the last chapter of DBS. Piccolo has arguments for genius overall so I would hold off on merely giving him anything related to combat.

Anime doesn't scale to manga and vice versa tho

I say to do what Sonic does for skill scalling

Can fight to a standstill or is said to be very skilled by Goku?

Extraordinary Genius

Can fight in a competent manner alongside or with Goku?

Downscale to Genius

 

[Omegabronic]

Wasn’t it a specific plot point that Goku Black couldn’t beat Vegeta because he lacked the real Goku’s battle iq? And the only reason Black didn’t finish off Goku and Co. earlier was because he wanted to keep fighting them to learn how to use Goku’s body?

I don’t believe fighting on par with someone is usually enough to scale battle iq without additional statements either.

I would say that it depends, of the fight ended up in a draw or prolonged in a standstill for a good ammount of time, i would say scalling is good

 

[Omegabronic]

To add onto the point I made to Bronic about Gohan, Gohan also created plans on the fly in the TOP and also has a bunch of other feats I can look for, such as adapting to having his eyesight compromised by Lavender

His Fight with Goku pre ToP is a good thing to check out for DBS Anime Gohan

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Huh, in Super Hero Goku perfected UI? .....when did that happened?

Didn't Super Hero take place after Granolah?

Anime doesn't scale to manga and vice versa tho

I say to do what Sonic does for skill scalling


Extraordinary Genius


Downscale to Genius

Sure

 

[Omegabronic]

Didn't Super Hero take place after Granolah?

Yeah, but the manga isn't canon to the Anime

Hence why both have different versions of the events of the movie

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Yeah, but the manga isn't canon to the Anime

I hate the current DB canon so much

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Anyways, has this thread concluded?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Anyways, has this thread concluded?

Yep just needed to add changes