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Puella Magi Discussion Thread XI or I: The Eternal Story

Coolmura personal story takes place during the Multiverse reset to Madoka's wish, She and Kyubey watches the Multiverse reshaped into Madoka's image. They later ended up within Mirror Witch labyrinth and watches the event that happened in Magia Record timeline. The fact we can see Magia Record timeline still haven't been influenced by Madoka's law even after her ascension means that it wasn't part of World of Witches despite having witches. If Magia Record is part of World of Witches, then it would have already become another part of World of Wraith after Madoka's ascension. This also backed by the fact:

1. Things like Doppel and Uwasa only exists in Magia Record timeline.
2. Main Timeline Homura firmly stated she never went to Kamihama, even once.
3. Iroha being Magical Girl and the trio lives only in Magia Record timeline.
4. Iroha kicking that pebble only happened in Magia Record timeline.

It doesn't matter if MagiRecord timeline has witches or not, what matter is that Madoka only encompassed World of Witches and World of Wraith. She is bound by the witches that only exists within her domain.
 
Beast_Zero_Gudako said:
Coolmura personal story takes place during the Multiverse reset to Madoka's wish, She and Kyubey watches the Multiverse reshaped into Madoka's image. They later ended up within Mirror Witch labyrinth and watches the event that happened in Magia Record timeline. The fact we can see Magia Record timeline still haven't been influenced by Madoka's law even after her ascension means that it wasn't part of World of Witches despite having witches. If Magia Record is part of World of Witches, then it would have already become another part of World of Wraith after Madoka's ascension. This also backed by the fact:

1. Things like Doppel and Uwasa only exists in Magia Record timeline.
2. Main Timeline Homura firmly stated she never went to Kamihama, even once.
3. Iroha being Magical Girl and the trio lives only in Magia Record timeline.
4. Iroha kicking that pebble only happened in Magia Record timeline.

It doesn't matter if MagiRecord timeline has witches or not, what matter is that Madoka only encompassed World of Witches and World of Wraith. She is bound by the witches that only exists within her domain.
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Every timeline will have differences with each other and not all of them are exactly same at all,this fact should be clear tbh so don't think that main timeline in MagiReco is the only exception
 
Delta333 said:
Every timeline will have differences with each other and not all of them are exactly same at all,this fact should be clear tbh so don't think that main timeline in MagiReco is the only exception
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Not in Magia Record case, Madoka already searched throughout Multiverse and in every timelines Iroha isn't suppose to become a Magical Girl and the trio died due their illness. Magia Record is the only timeline where they didn't share that fate.
 
Beast_Zero_Gudako said:
Not in Magia Record case, Madoka already searched throughout Multiverse and in every timelines Iroha isn't suppose to become a Magical Girl and the trio died due their illness. Magia Record is the only timeline where they didn't share that fate.
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Still nothing can change the fact that the statement from WA simply stated that her existence is bound to witches,nothing more or less

But to be fair,her justification should be changed to something like nigh omnipresence because it directly said that she exists throughout the entire Puella Magi multiverse,nothing here means that she is limited in her own domain
 
Delta333 said:
Still nothing can change the fact that the statement from WA simply stated that her existence is bound to witches,nothing more or less

But to be fair,her justification should be changed to something like nigh omnipresence because it directly said that she exists throughout the entire Puella Magi multiverse,nothing here means that she is limited in her own domain
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And nothing that can change Magia Record isn't part of the World of Witches and still untouched by Madoka's law even during the reset. This entire discussion happens because you bringing up the whole Reality-fiction things from a rather weak argument.

Puella Multiverses, which are the World of Witches and World of Wraith, both that Madoka already encompassed. Only Magia Record timeline that completely detached from any of these Multiverses. There is nothing to change here.
 
Beast_Zero_Gudako said:
And nothing that can change Magia Record isn't part of the World of Witches and still untouched by Madoka's law even during the reset. This entire discussion happens because you bringing up the whole Reality-fiction things from a rather weak argument.

Puella Multiverses, which are the World of Witches and World of Wraith, both that Madoka already encompassed. Only Magia Record timeline that completely detached from any of these Multiverses. There is nothing to change here.
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Again,when it said that Magia Record's main timeline is not a part of World of Witches when said timeline has witches?You said that it's different with other timelines but that's the very basic fact of every universe.Like I told you before,she is bound to witches and there are no different statements rather than that so please,if you can bring even at least a single scan said otherwise please show me here,I'm tired of of those non-sense arguments so this is my last reply about this thing.I'm not really knowledgeable about tier 1 stuff but I can understand some basic stuffs about which can qualify and which is not since my favorite verse got upgrade with the exactly same reason,and my recent CRT for them reagarding tier 1 stuff got accepted smoothly

I don't think people without any knowledge about the verse will know that she doesn't truly exist everywhere when they read that justification and truth to be told I actually have encountered several cases like that before,I only want to improve the profile by making it being more clear but if you don't want it then fine,I will leave the profile like that
 
Already explained it above why Magia Record are completely different from World of Witches. You can watch Coolmura personal story to see the event that happened during the reset.



You can see Madoka explained how Magia Record is completely different than any other timelines in Multiverse here. You will also find the reason why Madoka can't afford to intervene with Magia Record timeline.



I don't think people without any knowledge about the verse will know that she doesn't truly exist everywhere when they read that justification and I actually have encountered several case like that before,I only want to improve the profile by making it being more clear but if you don't want it then fine,I will leave that profile like
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Oh don't worry, Madoka isn't the only one who has justification like that. Shinzou Banshou Gods also have it too since day 1. There are only present within their own territory.
 
Beast_Zero_Gudako said:
Already explained it above why Magia Record are completely different from World of Witches. You can watch Coolmura personal story to see the event that happened during the reset.



You can see Madoka explained how Magia Record is completely different than any other timelines in Multiverse here. You will also find the reason why Madoka can't afford to intervene with Magia Record timeline.





Oh don't worry, Madoka isn't the only one who has justification like that. Shinzou Banshou Gods also have it too since day 1. There are only present within their own territory.
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I have watched those videos like countless times tho

And justification of Hajun is like this: "Omnipresent in his territory".
 
Then you're not paying attention enough to them.

And World of Witches and World of Wraith are her territories while Magia Record isn't.
 
sigh If you keep insist like that then fine,up to you

Same as above,but I want to say this last thing,you can ask one random person without any knowledge about the verse in this forum whether or not she exists every places in the series,I'm pretty sure most their answers could be something like "yes she exists everywhere and she is totally omnipresent".I don't care if new justification is made or not,but maybe without it people will misunderstand
 
After Iroha and Yachiyo reunited they went back to Mikazuki willa akong with Kuroe. They later decided to infiltrate Hotel Faint Hope (Magius HQ) with the help from Kuroe since only wings of Magius member that can found them and open up the entrance. They met up with Amane sister by chance and Yachiyo off to fight them while Iroha and Kuroe went ahead. They ended up at below the Hotel Faint Hope and rode a train for quite some time.

They later met up with Rena and Kaede, who got chased by an Uwasa. Small Kyubey later let led Iroha to the Witch Factory where the Magius can feeds them with Humans the Uwasa captured so they can be matured and collects their grief seed. They later encountered with the Uwasa that has been chasing Rena and Kaede and fought it, it later got defeated by Iroha and Kuroe's connect attack.

Later Kaede's doppel went berserk due her overusing it and took over just like what happen to Iroha, she later was pinned by Iroha and Rena's connect attack. Mitama and Momoko later arrived in the scene with the former put Kaede inside of an orb using her magic and bring her to the what she called, "Doppel Syndrome Isolation Ward" along with the other magical girls that have their doppel.went berserk. Mitama explained the side effect of using doppel which the others other than Iroha don't know.

Meanwhile, the Mitakihara gang (Sayaka, Madoka and Homura) were seen already in Kamihama looking for Mami. They have already asked for information from the magical girls they met but making no progress so far.

In this episode, there was a scene where a newscaster reported the appearance of a storm on the southern seas. This is obviously Walpurgisnacth doing and the storm is probably even bigger than the one in og anime. I'm not a calc guy, but this could be a feat for Wal.

Here's the screenshots
 
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You guys debated over the dimensional PMMM stuff, and here i am still waiting and hoping for the possible island level Mami by SD
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
Believe in Mami revolutions
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7-a mami makes the most sense
Delta333 said:
At least Low Complex Multiversal+ range with Telepathy (Both Homura Akemi(s) are connected to each other thanks to the Mirror Witch being a singularity connecting to other worlds, allowing them to share memories [Or Memoria in this case] and the ability to Doppel transform).

Hey SD why is this thing still on Homura's profile lol I'm sure that you have nuked it before
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Another thing that got missed, i’ll fix it

and i forgot she has a locked profile

homura range now fixed
 
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A rather slow episode. Nothing significant happens except for Touka commencing her plans by scattered out every Witches they have raised across 200 kilometers radius so the Eve Embryo can eats them.
 
I’ve had thought about calculating the percentages for each character’s memoria so it’d be known what they get because felicia, but all the things are different attack up damage cut defense up and then things like magia damage, i hate math
 
Beast_Zero_Gudako said:
Randomly stumble upon this thread and wondering how is it gonna affect the verse Creation feats.

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Hmmm, this will probably upgrade Elly but downgrade Patricia.

Randomlamdom said:
I’ve had thought about calculating the percentages for each character’s memoria so it’d be known what they get because felicia, but all the things are different attack up damage cut defense up and then things like magia damage, i hate math
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Would be cool to do that, tho I think the percentages would count as game mechanics.
 
Incomplete content for the next Puella Magi Revision Thread; there's probably some revisions I'm forgetting so please tell me / mention revisions of your own (Will be released after Suzune's Revisions):

All Puella Magi: Immortality (Type 1; Stated by Kyubey [~Around 5 minutes in) that as long as magical continue to consume grief seeds to avoid becoming a witch, they can live forever.)

In-verse Tiering System Changes :

Minor Changes / Additions :
  • Patricia: Manipulated likely the entire train station, as shown by the fact that it was empty when Madoka traveled through it and the section before the witch was over capacity at 13:55. Considering this is Japan, this is a massive feat.
  • Homura Akemi (Magia Record): Thread Manipulation (Summoned Mami's threads from her shield [Implications about that are rather endless] at around 13:35), Also stated that she had already tried to save madoka countless times, but probably hyperbole since she's explicitly shown to not be that good at fighting still.
  • Homura Akemi: City level+ with the aforementioned STTGL calculation.
 
Patricia, touka have air manipulation (blowing sayaka/the mifuyu clones away respectively), homura has limited? (uses a gust of magical wind to wipe away smoke, only ever seen in once)

Mifuyu gets teleportation (all the times she done that), nemu gets limited (seems to need to involve a uwasa in some way)

Mitama has sealing with the jars

Rumor tsuruno gets electricity manipulation

Other things i thought about
An upgrade for kuro’s witch form to 7-c, from the boost the witch transformation gives and homura’s description i think we can scale her to homura’s durability

Seperate kanae’s profile into two keys for living and ghost with below average human lifting strength and unknown tier

Change souju’s ‘at least 7-b with picchi’ to ‘higher with picchi’ and scale her durability to kazumi ap

Something that i’ve been questioning for a while, why does corbeau have damage/attack reflection? don’t remember her pushing her wounds onto other people, even if she does it would be damage transferal not damage/attack reflection
 
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Nothing except this:
SomebodyData said:
Incomplete content for the next Puella Magi Revision Thread; there's probably some revisions I'm forgetting so please tell me / mention revisions of your own (Will be released after Suzune's Revisions):

All Puella Magi: Immortality (Type 1; Stated by Kyubey [~Around 5 minutes in) that as long as magical continue to consume grief seeds to avoid becoming a witch, they can live forever.)

In-verse Tiering System Changes :

Minor Changes / Additions :
  • Patricia: Manipulated likely the entire train station, as shown by the fact that it was empty when Madoka traveled through it and the section before the witch was over capacity at 13:55. Considering this is Japan, this is a massive feat.
  • Homura Akemi (Magia Record): Thread Manipulation (Summoned Mami's threads from her shield [Implications about that are rather endless] at around 13:35), Also stated that she had already tried to save madoka countless times, but probably hyperbole since she's explicitly shown to not be that good at fighting still.
  • Homura Akemi: City level+ with the aforementioned STTGL calculation.
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Randomlamdom said:
Patricia, touka have air manipulation (blowing sayaka/the mifuyu clones away respectively), homura has limited? (uses a gust of magical wind to wipe away smoke, only ever seen in once)

Mifuyu gets teleportation (all the times she done that), nemu gets limited (seems to need to involve a uwasa in some way)

Mitama has sealing with the jars

Rumor tsuruno gets electricity manipulation

Other things i thought about
An upgrade for kuro’s witch form to 7-c, from the boost the witch transformation gives and homura’s description i think we can scale her to homura’s durability

Seperate kanae’s profile into two keys for living and ghost with below average human lifting strength and unknown tier

Change souju’s ‘at least 7-b with picchi’ to ‘higher with picchi’ and scale her durability to kazumi ap

Something that i’ve been questioning for a while, why does corbeau have damage/attack reflection? don’t remember her pushing her wounds onto other people, even if she does it would be damage transferal not damage/attack reflection
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Randomlamdom said:
Adding to this, removing tsuruno and mami immortality type 4 and 8
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Anos is a mistake

Anyway outside that two matches (which was done for good i think) and discussion about incoming CRT, nothing much anything impactful tho i want to know how much value the 6-C is, will it be baseline 6-C or higher?
 
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