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Puella Magi Discussion Thread XI or I: The Eternal Story

Leafbladie said:
Easily dismissable as metaphor unfortunately. As both Iroha and Madoka claim roles as recording history.
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Ye I know it's not like I'm going to upgrade for real lol tho I definitely would have made an upgrade thread already if Eroha has nothing to do with it
 
Randomlamdom said:
This place is pretty dead
Been discussing the momoko jump calc with Dark-Carioca in the comments, looks like mhs+ travel speed for scaling to momoko and above
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I'm guessing people were just trying to avoid spoilers til they can watch season 3 (I know I was)

I'm still at the second episode of season 3, but damn already outdated profiles again.
 
SomebodyData said:
I'm guessing people were just trying to avoid spoilers til they can watch season 3 (I know I was)

I'm still at the second episode of season 3, but damn already outdated profiles again.
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Would love to talk about the show once everyone is caught up, absolutely loved AniReco
 
Same
Leafbladie said:
Would love to talk about the show once everyone is caught up, absolutely loved AniReco
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Same

I feel like i had some things left to be desired with the ending, but I still think its a drastic improvement over the game.

Will wait for eveeyone to have watched it before talking changes tho, since they're massive spoilers
NEO-DOROTHY ************ is not a name I expected to see in Magoa record.
 
SomebodyData said:
Same

Same

I feel like i had some things left to be desired with the ending, but I still think its a drastic improvement over the game.

Will wait for eveeyone to have watched it before talking changes tho, since they're massive spoilers
NEO-DOROTHY ************ is not a name I expected to see in Magoa record.
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Yeah, definitely better than the game. I feel like they did want for a few extra episodes here and there. I know the director mentioned wanting another episode dedicated to Yachiyo’s search for Iroha, which I think could’ve helped further with characterization of Yachiyo and Kuroe. That said, I think they did great with what they got.

It honestly makes sense with how much Alina likes to casually swear in English.
 
Begun the first part of Kazumi Subaru's update:
  • Updated imagery
  • Updated terminology (Magia Record's rerun of Another Daze and Cuddly Despairs has given a lot of context and official names for Kazumi lore)
  • Updated Key Split (Now will be: "Artificial Magical Girl | Another Daze | Human Magical Girl | Cuddly Despairs" to reflect how Post-Cannibalism Kazumi is really just a difference in mindset and how big the profile is getting)
  • Updated Artificial Magical Girl Kazumi's P&A (Is now a massive(r) wall of text).
Will finish the Kazumi update tomorrow. Hope to begin the second half of the Kanna update Tuesday and hopefully Umika and Karou's eventually.

Would also like to start talking MR revisions, but I kinda need to know how many of you guys have watched it / are okay with spoilers.

Also guess I'm making a new Kazumi Magica profile. I doubt anyone can guess what that profile will be since I only learned that this character(s) had feats one day ago.
 
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I’ve watched it all the way through of course, and would be fine discussing some stuff. However, stuck with two jobs, so might have much time.
 
Well the anime changes quite a few things, we'll need new tabs for Yachiyo, Alina, and Iroha since they all seem to have gotten buffed (The latter two getting reallllly buffed)

@Random How so?
 
5-B, will eventually become Higher

You haven't watched the final season right? Alina fans get a treat with the ending
 
I thought it was referring to like conventional souls / biological minds or made completely of non-organic material

Also don't think witches are living beings, which is what type 1 is for.
 
Inorganic type 1 has things made of plasma, rock or freaking kool aid as living things, wouldn’t witches also fit there?
The difference between inorganic types does confuse me a bit
 
Randomlamdom said:
It isn’t a lame argument since it’s about what’s needed for inorganic physiology

See from intangibility on her profile
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It is lame argument because everyone in this forum despises whataboutism. Also a literal gear is 100% type 2 because it doesn't have a physical brain and a soul, which is requirement for type 2 unless you don't read the page.

Wdym about Elly part again?
 
Well admittedly bringing up other verses for comparison can be pretty good at explaining concepts or debunking arguments.

Regardless, @Random the thing about that is that in-verse Registeel, the Kool-Aid man, etc are considering living creatures despite being made of non-organic matter. Witches aren't really considered alive as much as a byproduct of grief and despair. And considering we already have Type 2 witches like Delta showed, it's not really a stretch to say they're all type 2 rather than type 1, especially since they all fit in the qualifications for type 2 with their lack of soul and etc
 
Bringing different verses is bad argument tho, as others usually need to understand the contexts of other series to reply with counter arguments. Plus it may just end up with the upgrade or downgrade of other series rather than changing the actual characters in question.
 


It seems Madoka was the one who defeated Walpurgisnight in the MagiReco anime, only to die immediately afterward. She might have used some suicide attack like Kyoko to finish the Witch off.
 
it lives!
Randomlamdom said:
Back again with revision ideas
First is simple, change telekinesis to weapon control, walpurgisnacht keeps hers but don’t know any others right now

Second i don’t expect to be accepted but still bringing it up since it was updated, possible beyond dimensional existence for madoka
Possible new type 2 from what’s described in beginning story
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More revisions
Remove tart’s time manip, her despair affecting the future involved time travel and history being changed so it shouldn’t count as her ability
Move homura’s second key magia record abilities into a second key on her magia record profile, and downgrade her multiversal+ telepathy range since it’s because of the mirror witch and not herself
 
Randomlamdom said:
So i was looking over madoka's 6-c feat... and it's completely wrong, calculating it properly gets 559.7 kilotons. and with this cloud density revision that would bring it down to 368.37 kilotons
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I think you mistook the “,41s” as 41 seconds, instead of .41 seconds. I don’t blame you, the calc is really poorly formatted. But the calc is using the time it takes for the clouds to disperse in the game, which you can see here.

Still, your point about cloud desnity revisions might be worth investigating.
 
Leafbladie said:
I think you mistook the “,41s” as 41 seconds, instead of .41 seconds. I don’t blame you, the calc is really poorly formatted. But the calc is using the time it takes for the clouds to disperse in the game, which you can see here.

Still, your point about cloud desnity revisions might be worth investigating.
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Oh yeah duh, didn't see the 0 and wasn't thinking about the time length when putting in the numbers

Anyway with the new cloud density proposal that means 3.68 gigatons for everyone scaling from madoka, 4.8898 gigatons for holy mami
 
Should be obvious that I'm not really active on VSB right now, so updates are incredibly scarce. My current client operates on British time and I'm on the computer all day for them, so VSB really isn't something I'm capable of managing. However, in this case it might have been a good thing, since Magia Record has gotten alot of development and had I updated those profiles earlier- would have immediately been outdated.

Pernelle Flamel has been updated to the most recent Tart event. Should try to update Isabeau too someday.

I finished Kazumi, so I'm going to work on finishing Kanna. After that, expect me to finally tackle Magia Record.
 
SomebodyData said:
Pernelle Flamel has been updated to the most recent Tart event.
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Some minor things, she has kriemhild’s false paradise instead of regular absorption and haregi doppel’s description in reality warping

Also should have “often forgets to avoid danger” as a doppel weakness, and possibly limited higher dimensional manipulation?
 
Can someone confirm the formula for madoka is correct for ke because it’s not giving me what it says it gives and i can’t remember how i got the numbers i said before
I think it’s need to be completely reworked even without new cloud density
 
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