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PIRATES VS NINJAS(win) 20V20 (6B and below) CONCLUDED

No not just the Uchihas, even basic ninja know some genjutsu and knowing it is a 20v 20 they would definitely get someone to do mass genjutsu. Like Tobirama Senju. The Uchiha are just the icing on the cake and Itachi can genjutsu people just by pointing at them.
 
A basic Genjutsu isn't working on any of these characters. High level ones like the ones from the Uchiha is what gives the Ninja team the win here. Aside from that they don't have many answers to the Logia hax and others.
 
They dont seem to have any mind resistance so I dont see how basic genjutsu would not workbut whatever that is why I said that Tobirama should use it since he is far from a basic ninja.
 
Because as I've said in multiple threads for a Genjutsu to work on a One Piece character they need to actually put Chakra into them to put them I a Genjutsu, we don't equate Haki to other Chi groups. They don't have Chakra tracks but advanced forums of Genjutsu would work, it's essentially the reason why Naruto beats One Piece in terms of hax.
 
Kotomarasu not only beats all the guys in view, but it also makes it so that they become allies, and then they can be asked for weaknesses. Amatersu can be just aimed at any non logia to oneshot, No answer for kamui, and bfr as such. Madara knocks out via genjustu Ashura, sakura and naruto heal any dammage Orochimaru acn ise possible death for edo and possibly fearmanipulates. Minato keeps healing via edo, and possibly seals one of the enemis (possibly giving fruit powers to whoever he seals into...)
 
again, law is there with hax trickery. at the start of the battle he says room and doffy says parasite. multi continental durability won't matter when there's Law, Kuma & blackbeard. you're forgetting that Kuma could repel Amaterasu and have them all fighting forever by repelling fatigue and pain.

aoe characters that have battlefield advantage

doffy, kuzan, enel, crocodile, katakuri, law, big mom, blackbeard & shiki. via awakening/devil fruit hax.

there's edo, but edo gets bfr and if they take a lot of damage it takes minutes for them to reform a limb. so rip there

doflamingo could also use them to attack eachother, law could easily switch since they would all be in his room. or switch someone with Kuma so that the person getting switched gets jumped by the squad and the other person he switched him with, either blackbeard or Kuma could bfr if tagged. or use someone with a huge aoe attack to cause damage to them all.

in terms of speed, ninjas have the edge.

ability wise. ninjas hax are several ninjas with sharingan (genjutsu, muscle movement and 2 people with kamui which can easily be avoided unless used at the same time. also to add it lets them bypass stuff but they can't touch you. etc.) madara with rinnegan and limbo, (which is a problem) few ninjas with sealing. idk how minato's teleporting people would work unless his seals didn't disappear when he dies if they're still active then they have that. obito can summon tailed beast, itachi's sealing Susanoo, shisui's genjutsu, naruto's shadow clone & Edo being immortal with infinite chakra but take time to reform.


whereas the pirates have boa Handcock, she can turn u into stone if you have lust. logias are haxed since infinite supply of their elements/ spam with or without gestures. crocodiles sand removing the moisture. big mom fear inducement + homies & soul manipulation/ battlefield advantage which also allows enel to spam that 1 giant thunder ball which he can create effortlessly. observation haki apply to most of these characters giving some a few seconds look into the furture several seconds + for characters like katakuri. awakening already spoke about battlefield advantages. blackbeards blackhole wich could easily engulf a city+. as stated not even light can escape + bfr and gravity manipulation. doffy's parasite, law's room activation which activates at the beginning of the battle. crackers biscuit soldiers where he can create an endless army stronger than g2 & g3 luffy. shiki, anything he touches he controls, more potent than big mom's homies. unless made of her own soul etc.


stamina the Pirates can fight endlessly unless Kuma drops out so it'll be 10days. idk if the ninjas can fight a whole 2 days constantly besides the edo.


dc and durability would go to the Ninjas but the Pirates have ways of ignoring durability. law, Kuma, boa, blackbeard, crocodile, big mom.


intelligence: they're even since no prep and some characters are geniuses in combat.
 
None of the ninjas are lustfull, and while there are some ninja it can affect, it sure as hell arent this, and again, shisui lol minhaxes oposition and gets allies easy, and yes, teleportation seals never fade away
 
He had tried to use it, and he couldent use it for the danzo one because it was not only an ambush, but all of his clan would have died if he used it up. Amd pis too
 
there's no truth seeking balls cuz keys. probably obito has it tho. six paths of pain isn't a huge threat besides his almighty, and blackbeards gravity outclasses his.
 
How is the one piece side supposed to hwt past tailed beasts? There is no way they can vet past things like intangibility and such
 
Ghost can interact with objects, sometimes anyways

Still, the final fight with naruto vs sasuke shows this by having kuramas head being blown and him just reputting it together
 
Intangibility (Although the Bijuu transform into physical matter and give themselves normal biological bodies, they are primarily made entirely out of energy, and have been shown to exist in that state. As they are masses of energy in this state, they are impossible to kill by normal means)

There
 
Not really, no. Kuma couldent touch, and they could easly get back via hiranshin, beyond that, the shinigami, who has been shown to seal souls, sealed all of the tailed best, even beyond that, even if it worked, they would get possesed by the chakra which carries theyre will
 
Actualy, all chakra clings to a soul, orochimarus cursed seal curropt via chakra gotten from his soul. The sam ability that had naruto steal

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kuramas chakra made hima able to pluck his soul back into his body
Ashura and indras soul changes theyre hosts chakra.

Tailed beast chakra contains theyre mind

Chakra could create a perfect recreation of minato and kushina in the seal, albeit temporary

The edo transforms a body into the the soul its being possesed by
 
and I have a theory that because there's a spirit to everything, what haki does is allow the user to come in contact with the spirit/soul which makes more sense than they use it to negate logias and amplify their power. observation lets you see a lot of things, armament lets you touch, conquers lets you control and dominate with your own spirit. as we've seen with ace and roger. shanks and whitebeard created a storm. not set in stone just a theory.
 
Fear Manipulation isn't doing anything against team One Piece here. If Big Mom can't do shit to anyone on her team with her fear manipulation I doubt anyone on Naruto can either. And it depends on what type of intang the Bijuu have, also I thought they typically remain solid in combat? Depending on the type Busoshoku might be able to negate it, spacial slicing can also mess with it as it effects the space around them. Little to no hax from team Naruto is noteworthy, expect for sealing, Genjutsu and soul manipulation which team One Piece also has. Kamui is essentially countered by Logia Regenerationn unless it gets the entity of their body. Which is gonna be difficult as they can avoid damage via shape-shifting. Like I said both are essentially even in terms of hax but team Naruto has the edge due to the entire mind hax part. One Piece takes AP and speed ( Characters scaling wayyy above mach 1600.)
 
and btw, kuma can selectively repel anything. madara was able to abstract the tailbeast. they'll find their way back but it's bfr.
 
Rocker1189 said:
Err Naruto characters are now beyong mach 3000
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Since when? Aren't they scaling to an early on mach 1300 feat?


Deiara is a non factor due to the caliber of Regenerationn and Intang.
 
They are scaling from Kirin being mach 3000 and Itachi reacting to it. Also Deidara can just cause disruption among them since he can do it over and over.
 
What is the most big moms fear has ever done? And no, its not the fear that kills them, its the soul sucking

No, they cant negate it, they transform into pire enrgy, with only two and one tails using elemental versions of it. Little to no hax? One on narutos team can litiraly turn them all to his side, another can make somone live through decades of life causing theyre brain to stop working due to owerload,attacks from an alternate universe, intangibility they cant negate, necromancy, could seal away someones soul, and possibly the devilfruits spirit into an ally, Regenerationn and healing
 
Yoh Asakura8 said:
Kuma repels explosion and law haxes it by switching them with the ninjas.
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Law doesn't use soul hax in character and itd be arguably worse since he's stronger than most of the Ninja here
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
What is the most big moms fear has ever done? And no, its not the fear that kills them, its the soul sucking

No, they cant negate it, they transform into pire enrgy, with only two and one tails using elemental versions of it. Little to no hax? One on narutos team can litiraly turn them all to his side, another can make somone live through decades of life causing theyre brain to stop working due to owerload,attacks from an alternate universe, intangibility they cant negate, necromancy, could seal away someones soul, and possibly the devilfruits spirit into an ally, Regenerationn and healing
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You do know her soul manipulation is done with her fear inducement right? Nobody in Naruto is doing anything with Fear Manipulation.


No I was asking what type of intang they have. They turn into energy which is falling under elemental intang if I remember correctly. All of those are nice but as everyone agrees it's the Genjutsu that really sells its for team Naruto. Obtio's intang has a time limit unlike the Logias. Devil Fruit Spirits...?
 
No, Busoshoku is not a soul hax. It's just made from one's soul, and it's more of a unknown weakness to Logia intang since we know little to no knowledge of how Busoshoku actually functions.
 
No, its a side effect, if somones afraid, they arw gonna get soul ripped, it doesent spook the soul out of them. And in naruto orochimaru knocked out and madw vomit enemies, and hashirama unnervwd the **** out of tobirama
 
I need to squash this Obito time limit right now. It is not time limited.

It is time limited ONLY if you continuously hit him for 5 mins straight without letting up at all.

The moment you let up from hitting him the time limit resets and you have to do it ALL over again.
 
devil fruits have like a spirit or essence that occasionally effects the users personality. been stated by kaku that he feels another being inside him etc.
 
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