Naruto vs Luffy.

[YoutubeForKing]

"SAGE OF SIX PATHS" Naruto Uzumaki vs "SUN GOD NIKA" Monkey D. Luffy

• Starting distance 1 meter apart
• Both in character but trying to kill
• = speed
• Naruto starts in Kurama six paths mode, but can take out his avatar| Luffy starts in his Gear 5.

Location

"EE, Matter Manip, Dura Neg, Regen Negation GG": @Tdjwo @Cryo123 @azontr @YoutubeForKing
"Dura Neg GG, Toon Force GG, Precog GG":
Inconclusive:

 

[YoutubeForKing]

Naruto is 5-B Luffy is H6A.
Apparently if a character has a wincon you can put them against characters who massively out-scale them.
Luffy has wincons here and the speed is =

 

[KingTempest]

Tf are Luffy's wincons

 

[YoutubeForKing]

Tf are Luffy's wincons

Dura neg. Naruto cannot regenerate his heart of brain and luffy can destroy said things with his dura neg

 

[theultimate5105]

Dura neg. Naruto cannot regenerate his heart of brain and luffy can destroy said things with his dura neg

Naruto most definitely can regenerate his heart
and none of Luffy’s Dura neg bypasses all levels of Dura (most is just internal damage which is useless against someone millions of times stronger)

 

[KingTempest]

Naruto most definitely can regenerate his heart

Stop right there

 

[Tdjwo]

This shouldn't exist. Naruto has 5B physicals Luffy doesn't. Each clash against Naruto would disintegrate Luffy due to massive physical differences. Naruto stomps.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

This shouldn't exist. Naruto has 5B physicals Luffy doesn't. Each class against Naruto would disintegrate Luffy due to massive physical differences. Naruto stomps.

Nahh

 

[Cryo123]

If Luffy had reality manip or something, this could be fair, but as of now, it's just a stomp.

 

[LordGinSama]

Luffy's G5 page is also kinda ass, namely his Transmutation. His Transmutation should be noted that it works on a quantum level given that he can directly transmute electrons to rubber.

 

[YoutubeForKing]

This shouldn't exist. Naruto has 5B physicals Luffy doesn't. Each clash against Naruto would disintegrate Luffy due to massive physical differences. Naruto stomps.

Say that to all the people putting 4-A characters againts characters who are not even tier 5 saying "But they have a win-con"
Luffy has wincons so ill take this as your vote for naruto

 

[YoutubeForKing]

If Luffy had reality manip or something, this could be fair, but as of now, it's just a stomp.

Nah, he has a wincon.
Its already a thing in the naruto verse that your organs are not comparable to your flesh skin etc.
So he has a wincon therefore it isn't a stomp, and he uses this wincon a lot in just about every fight in the series. Plus he does have reality manip with toon force.

Luffy has wincons so ill take this as your vote for naruto.

 

[YoutubeForKing]

Naruto most definitely can regenerate his heart
and none of Luffy’s Dura neg bypasses all levels of Dura (most is just internal damage which is useless against someone millions of times stronger)

Since when
Your organs are not as strong as your insides in naruto bro. Kakashi literally says this
And the best naruto has regenerated was a hole in his chest and like a lung or something

 

[SuperStar]

The most used scan in vs debating

 

[Pikaman]

If Luffy doesn’t open with his durability negation, then this is a stomp as he will attempt a different technique first, and Naruto will just sneeze on him and Luffy dies. You can remedy that by bloodlusting Luffy or giving him prior knowledge though

 

[YoutubeForKing]

If Luffy doesn’t open with his durability negation, then this is a stomp as he will attempt a different technique first, and Naruto will just sneeze on him and Luffy dies. You can remedy that by bloodlusting Luffy or giving him prior knowledge though

Luffy would most definitely start off with that in gear 5 as its the first thing he used againt kaido and thats the only gear 5 fight he has.
Also there both fighting to kill

 

[azontr]

Naruto throws his funny little black balls at Luffy and he dies

 

[Tdjwo]

Naruto throws his funny little black balls at Luffy and he dies

That is unfair. TSO should be restricted.

 

[Pikaman]

Also there both fighting to kill

Doesn’t equate to being bloodlusted. Fighting to kill basically means they lack restraint in terms of holding back and stuff like that, bloodlusting a character basically robs them of their personality and turns them into hyper-intelligent killing machines who will always pick the deadliest option.

Luffy would most definitely start off with that in gear 5 as its the first thing he used againt kaido and thats the only gear 5 fight he has.

Eh, idk anything about One Piece so I can’t comment on this, but from what everyone is saying it looks like this is a stomp anyways

 

[Tdjwo]

Say that to all the people putting 4-A characters againts characters who are not even tier 5 saying "But they have a win-con"
Luffy has wincons so ill take this as your vote for naruto

Luffy's wincon is non-existent against Naruto. His hax is basic durability negation. You can't compare it to hax like Gojo's infinity which stomps higher tiers.

Naruto uses his chakra fist to splat Luffy's skull wide open.

 

[Godernet]

Adv Armarment(Ryou) is just flowing Haki through an object/person. Is there any proof that it would work on Naruto whose durability comes from an energy cloak that's thousands of times stronger than Luffy is?

 

[YoutubeForKing]

Naruto uses his chakra fist to splat Luffy's skull wide open.

Naruto doesn't start with moves like that. Typically its clones then hand to hand then that.

Luffy's wincon is non-existent against Naruto. His hax is basic durability negation. You can't compare it to hax like Gojo's infinity which stomps higher tiers.

Im not comparing it to that. Haki allows you to hit your opponent without phyiscally touching them plus its dura neg, and basic dura is still gonna work against naruto bro

 

[PrinceofPein]

This should be closed

 

[Tdjwo]

And all these are even assuming Luffy's Ryou is strong enough to negate Naruto's durability because iirc, Kaguya's vacuum fist is just overpowered air palms and air palms are dura neg. Naruto clashed with them without getting negged. Luffy can't bypass Naruto's durability.

 

[Maitreya12]

You should’ve at least made speed unequal since that’s the only real thing Luffy has going for him over Naruto

 

[YoutubeForKing]

This should be closed

This should not be closed.
Luffy has a proper wincon that is viable.
Naruto cannot resist dura neg and he doesn't start off with long range attacks.
Luffy has a good chance of getting up to naruto and either destroying his heart or his brain.

 

[Tdjwo]

Naruto doesn't start with moves like that. Typically its clones then hand to hand then that.

He started with that against Kaguya when she launched her vacuum fists at him.

 

[Eminiteable]

Plus he does have reality manip with toon force.

It's garbage tier

 

[YoutubeForKing]

And all these are even assuming Luffy's Ryou is strong enough to negate Naruto's durability because iirc, Kaguya's vacuum fist is just overpowered air palms and air palms are dura neg. Naruto clashed with them without getting negged. Luffy can't bypass Naruto's durability.

Naruto doesn't have resistance to her dura neg
And ryou dura neg>>>>>>>>>>Gentle fist dura neg which is all naruto has experienced in regards to organ attacks

 

[YoutubeForKing]

He started with that against Kaguya when she launched her vacuum fists at him.

Luffy isn't going to start with a large attack like that, and that was after he was terrified of kaguya he wont be with luffy.

It's garbage tier

Still reality manip? And you can still argue for luffy and vote for him

 

[Eminiteable]

Still reality manip? And you can still argue for luffy and vote for him

Giving Naruto goofy reaction eyes isn't doing anything.

 

[azontr]

But uh yeah Luffy legitimately has no win condition. His reality warping is dogshit, and his durability negation doesn't work on things literally thousands of times stronger than himself, it may as well be fancy internal damage crap. Naruto breathes on him.

 

[YoutubeForKing]

Giving Naruto goofy reaction eyes isn't doing anything.

What are you talking about goofy reaction eyes.
Both characters have wincons.
Trying to downplay luffy's wincons to make this seem like he has 0 chance at winning comes from bias lmfao.
Naruto cannot resist organ dura neg, Gentle fist organ dura neg works differently than Ryou organ dura neg. Luffy can still win

 

[YoutubeForKing]

his durability negation doesn't work on things literally thousands of times stronger than himself

Naruto's organs isn't thousands of times stronger than luffy my guy.
Naruto characters cannot make their organs as strong as their body bro.
His reality manip isn't dogshit. He can reflect attacks and literally turn things into rubber.

 

[Maitreya12]

This should not be closed.
Luffy has a proper wincon that is viable.
Naruto cannot resist dura neg and he doesn't start off with long range attacks.
Luffy has a good chance of getting up to naruto and either destroying his heart or his brain.

Yeah it really should’ve since you took away Luffy’s main advantage.

He does not have a viable wincon. Literally the very scan you posted about Neji’s attacks negging your durability, remember Naruto tanked all 64 palms of that and resisted it. So even as a child he resisted Luffy’s kind of durability neg. And only got more layers of defense as older plus again with Kaguay’s air palms.

Naruto has started off with long range attacks many many times. Or even you said him starting off with clone is something Naruto does. Naruto starting off with clones already completely decimates the fight since Luffy cannot hope to even tangle with 1 clone of Naruto. Let alone hundreds to thousands.

How’s Luffy meant to get past all of Naruto’s clones? How’s Luffy meant to get around all of the close range abilities Naruto has? He has no viable win conditions here.

 

[Eminiteable]

What are you talking about goofy reaction eyes.
Both characters have wincons.
Trying to downplay luffy's wincons to make this seem like he has 0 chance at winning comes from bias lmfao.

You're the one who brought up his "reality warping" as a wincon.

 

[azontr]

Naruto's organs isn't thousands of times stronger than luffy my guy.
Naruto characters cannot make their organs as strong as their body bro.

I mean clearly they can since everyone keeps showing moments of Naruto resisting Luffy's specific form of dura neg.

 

[YoutubeForKing]

He does not have a viable wincon. Literally the very scan you posted about Neji’s attacks negging your durability, remember Naruto tanked all 64 palms of that and resisted it. So even as a child he resisted Luffy’s kind of durability neg. And only got more layers of defense as older plus again with Kaguay’s air palms.

He resisted the power null. It power nulls people then attacks there organs. He never resisted the dura neg part only the power null part.

How’s Luffy meant to get past all of Naruto’s clones? How’s Luffy meant to get around all of the close range abilities Naruto has? He has no viable win conditions here.

Dura neg and naruto doesn't often start with long range. He has viable win conditions.

Naruto has started off with long range attacks many many times. Or even you said him starting off with clone is something Naruto does. Naruto starting off with clones already completely decimates the fight since Luffy cannot hope to even tangle with 1 clone of Naruto. Let alone hundreds to thousands.

Ok ill change starting distance to 1 meter apart so luffy has a "chance" at hitting naruto cause you certainly dont believe he does even tho he as literal future sight

 

[YoutubeForKing]

I mean clearly they can since everyone keeps showing moments of Naruto resisting Luffy's specific form of dura neg.

If he could resist dura neg it would be on his page bro.
HE CAN RESIST POWER NULL, NOT DURA NEG. Just go and look at vsbattles own explanations on how gentle fist dura neg works, its already been discussed that he resisted the power null part which in turn negated the dura neg part.
Also stop bringing up stuff thats not on his page.

Luffy has valid wincons.
Naruto cannot blitz luffy here, future sight prevents it and rules say that even in speed = match the slower character cannot blitz the faster one.
Luffy has attack reflection and spammable dura neg.

 

[azontr]

You don't have to resist dura neg for your organs to scale to your durability.